• [OT] Canada is not a serious country

    From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 7 06:23:18 2025
    I read this story in the National Post and found myself shaking my head:

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/syrian-canadian-who-allegedly-let-relative-use-his-passport-wins-chance-to-get-it-back

    This guy seriously misused his passport - from the looks of it, very deliberately - and the court has essentially said it was mean of the
    passport office to treat him the way they did.

    They SHOULD have deported both individuals and never let them back into
    the country: that's what a serious country would have done.

    --
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rhino on Fri Feb 7 16:07:08 2025
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I read this story in the National Post and found myself shaking my head:

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/syrian-canadian-who-allegedly-let-relative-use-his-passport-wins-chance-to-get-it-back

    This guy seriously misused his passport - from the looks of it, very >deliberately - and the court has essentially said it was mean of the
    passport office to treat him the way they did.

    They SHOULD have deported both individuals and never let them back into
    the country: that's what a serious country would have done.

    I agree with you. The justice's opinion misrepresents the evidence
    presented by the government. How does the justice confuse which stamps
    on the passport were referred to? Everything arrival and departure is
    stamped and noted for a clear timeline of presentation of a passport to immigration officers.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Fri Feb 7 15:40:07 2025
    On 2025-02-07 11:07 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <[email protected]> wrote:

    I read this story in the National Post and found myself shaking my head:

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/syrian-canadian-who-allegedly-let-relative-use-his-passport-wins-chance-to-get-it-back

    This guy seriously misused his passport - from the looks of it, very
    deliberately - and the court has essentially said it was mean of the
    passport office to treat him the way they did.

    They SHOULD have deported both individuals and never let them back into
    the country: that's what a serious country would have done.

    I agree with you. The justice's opinion misrepresents the evidence
    presented by the government. How does the justice confuse which stamps
    on the passport were referred to? Everything arrival and departure is
    stamped and noted for a clear timeline of presentation of a passport to immigration officers.

    This is what happens when you hire Social Justice Warrior activists as
    judges. It has to stop! These judges need to lose their jobs.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Feb 7 13:45:06 2025
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 06:23:18 -0500, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I read this story in the National Post and found myself shaking my head:

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/syrian-canadian-who-allegedly-let-relative-use-his-passport-wins-chance-to-get-it-back

    This guy seriously misused his passport - from the looks of it, very >deliberately - and the court has essentially said it was mean of the
    passport office to treat him the way they did.

    They SHOULD have deported both individuals and never let them back into
    the country: that's what a serious country would have done.

    Abso-frick-lutely.

    But then I tend to be prejudiced against Syrians when it involves the
    Canadian government given the way the aunt (who lived in Toronto) of
    that poor Kurdi boy had a MAJOR effect on the 2015 Canadian election
    when she falsely said the Canadian government had failed in their duty
    towards her brother's family when it turned out that her brother had
    obtained an application form for immigration to Canada but had never
    actually applied - and had lost his son (a really cute 4 year old)
    crossing from Turkey to Greece. Too bad the aunt was a Canadian
    citizen by then - I would have deported her in a heartbeat for her
    lies.

    Bottom line is that no country has an obligation to deal with
    non-applicants and thus did not fail them in any way - but Stephen
    Harper DEFINITELY paid the price in that year's election for his
    non-existent "cruelty" towards them.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Fri Feb 7 18:38:39 2025
    On 2025-02-07 4:45 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 06:23:18 -0500, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I read this story in the National Post and found myself shaking my head:

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/syrian-canadian-who-allegedly-let-relative-use-his-passport-wins-chance-to-get-it-back

    This guy seriously misused his passport - from the looks of it, very
    deliberately - and the court has essentially said it was mean of the
    passport office to treat him the way they did.

    They SHOULD have deported both individuals and never let them back into
    the country: that's what a serious country would have done.

    Abso-frick-lutely.

    But then I tend to be prejudiced against Syrians when it involves the Canadian government given the way the aunt (who lived in Toronto) of
    that poor Kurdi boy had a MAJOR effect on the 2015 Canadian election
    when she falsely said the Canadian government had failed in their duty towards her brother's family when it turned out that her brother had
    obtained an application form for immigration to Canada but had never
    actually applied - and had lost his son (a really cute 4 year old)
    crossing from Turkey to Greece. Too bad the aunt was a Canadian
    citizen by then - I would have deported her in a heartbeat for her
    lies.

    Bottom line is that no country has an obligation to deal with
    non-applicants and thus did not fail them in any way - but Stephen
    Harper DEFINITELY paid the price in that year's election for his
    non-existent "cruelty" towards them.

    It still makes me angry that Canadian voters tossed out the best PM in
    my lifetime, Harper, and replaced him with Trudeau FOR NO GOOD REASON.
    All Trudeau offered was nice hair, lies about the Syrians, and a lot of
    SJW nonsense that is driving this country ever closer to Third World
    status. (The Heir-Apparent, Mark Carney, will be even WORSE because he's dedicated to Net Zero.)

    We need an election SO BADLY it's impossible to overstate it. According
    to Brian Lilley, who has sources within the Liberal Party, the Liberals
    are scheming with the NDP to prop up the Liberals until the absolute
    last possible minute under the constitution, which would delay the
    election until September 2026 (repeat 2026, NOT 2025)! That would give
    them ample time to do MUCH MORE damage to this country.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Feb 10 09:46:25 2025
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 18:38:39 -0500, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    It still makes me angry that Canadian voters tossed out the best PM in
    my lifetime, Harper, and replaced him with Trudeau FOR NO GOOD REASON.
    All Trudeau offered was nice hair, lies about the Syrians, and a lot of
    SJW nonsense that is driving this country ever closer to Third World
    status. (The Heir-Apparent, Mark Carney, will be even WORSE because he's >dedicated to Net Zero.)

    We need an election SO BADLY it's impossible to overstate it. According
    to Brian Lilley, who has sources within the Liberal Party, the Liberals
    are scheming with the NDP to prop up the Liberals until the absolute
    last possible minute under the constitution, which would delay the
    election until September 2026 (repeat 2026, NOT 2025)! That would give
    them ample time to do MUCH MORE damage to this country.

    I don't know about Harper being the best PM in my lifetime (bear in
    mind that I met Diefenbaker in person as a child - which wasn't all
    that much of an accomplishment as I was a 9 year old and my
    grandfather was running federally at the time - for non-Canadians Dief
    was roughly in the last days of Ike and JFK but left office for good
    in 1967) but no question his replacement was a shadow on him.

    Bottom line is by modern standards fiscally responsible and despite
    the rhetoric he didn't do anything incredibly shocking unlike Mr
    45/47. Of course you could say much the same of Paul Martin Jr too.
    (Martin Sr ran for his party leadership and lost on the last ballot to
    Pierre Trudeau)

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  • From Nyssa@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Tue Feb 11 10:47:01 2025
    The Horny Goat wrote:

    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 18:38:39 -0500, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    It still makes me angry that Canadian voters tossed out
    the best PM in my lifetime, Harper, and replaced him with
    Trudeau FOR NO GOOD REASON. All Trudeau offered was nice
    hair, lies about the Syrians, and a lot of SJW nonsense
    that is driving this country ever closer to Third World
    status. (The Heir-Apparent, Mark Carney, will be even
    WORSE because he's dedicated to Net Zero.)

    We need an election SO BADLY it's impossible to overstate
    it. According to Brian Lilley, who has sources within the
    Liberal Party, the Liberals are scheming with the NDP to
    prop up the Liberals until the absolute last possible
    minute under the constitution, which would delay the
    election until September 2026 (repeat 2026, NOT 2025)!
    That would give them ample time to do MUCH MORE damage to
    this country.

    I don't know about Harper being the best PM in my lifetime
    (bear in mind that I met Diefenbaker in person as a child
    - which wasn't all that much of an accomplishment as I was
    a 9 year old and my grandfather was running federally at
    the time - for non-Canadians Dief was roughly in the last
    days of Ike and JFK but left office for good in 1967) but
    no question his replacement was a shadow on him.

    Bottom line is by modern standards fiscally responsible
    and despite the rhetoric he didn't do anything incredibly
    shocking unlike Mr 45/47. Of course you could say much the
    same of Paul Martin Jr too. (Martin Sr ran for his party
    leadership and lost on the last ballot to Pierre Trudeau)

    Diefenbaker was still in the House of Commons as a front
    bencher in the early to mid 1970s. He was a shadow of
    himself then, but still there physically, if not mentally.

    I'll never forgive Diefenbaker for the Avro Arrow fiasco.
    Canadian engineers and scientists did a tremendous job
    on the creation of that jet which never got a fair chance
    to impress the rest of the world.

    OB TV: There is a Canadian made-for-TV movie "The Arrow"
    which will explain the work behind the ground-breaking
    engineering that helped to create the most advanced jet
    airplane of its time and how the whole project not only
    got scuttled, but literally destroyed on the decision
    made by John Diefenbaker.

    Nyssa, who holds a grudge a LONG time

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Nyssa on Tue Feb 11 09:29:56 2025
    Nyssa <[email protected]> wrote:
    The Horny Goat wrote:

    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 18:38:39 -0500, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    It still makes me angry that Canadian voters tossed out
    the best PM in my lifetime, Harper, and replaced him with
    Trudeau FOR NO GOOD REASON. All Trudeau offered was nice
    hair, lies about the Syrians, and a lot of SJW nonsense
    that is driving this country ever closer to Third World
    status. (The Heir-Apparent, Mark Carney, will be even
    WORSE because he's dedicated to Net Zero.)

    We need an election SO BADLY it's impossible to overstate
    it. According to Brian Lilley, who has sources within the
    Liberal Party, the Liberals are scheming with the NDP to
    prop up the Liberals until the absolute last possible
    minute under the constitution, which would delay the
    election until September 2026 (repeat 2026, NOT 2025)!
    That would give them ample time to do MUCH MORE damage to
    this country.

    I don't know about Harper being the best PM in my lifetime
    (bear in mind that I met Diefenbaker in person as a child
    - which wasn't all that much of an accomplishment as I was
    a 9 year old and my grandfather was running federally at
    the time - for non-Canadians Dief was roughly in the last
    days of Ike and JFK but left office for good in 1967) but
    no question his replacement was a shadow on him.

    Bottom line is by modern standards fiscally responsible
    and despite the rhetoric he didn't do anything incredibly
    shocking unlike Mr 45/47. Of course you could say much the
    same of Paul Martin Jr too. (Martin Sr ran for his party
    leadership and lost on the last ballot to Pierre Trudeau)

    Diefenbaker was still in the House of Commons as a front
    bencher in the early to mid 1970s. He was a shadow of
    himself then, but still there physically, if not mentally.

    I'll never forgive Diefenbaker for the Avro Arrow fiasco.
    Canadian engineers and scientists did a tremendous job
    on the creation of that jet which never got a fair chance
    to impress the rest of the world.

    OB TV: There is a Canadian made-for-TV movie "The Arrow"
    which will explain the work behind the ground-breaking
    engineering that helped to create the most advanced jet
    airplane of its time and how the whole project not only
    got scuttled, but literally destroyed on the decision
    made by John Diefenbaker.

    Nyssa, who holds a grudge a LONG time



    I thought Diefenbaker was a wolf.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Feb 11 17:47:14 2025
    On Feb 11, 2025 at 8:29:56 AM PST, "anim8rfsk" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Nyssa <[email protected]> wrote:
    The Horny Goat wrote:

    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 18:38:39 -0500, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    It still makes me angry that Canadian voters tossed out
    the best PM in my lifetime, Harper, and replaced him with
    Trudeau FOR NO GOOD REASON. All Trudeau offered was nice
    hair, lies about the Syrians, and a lot of SJW nonsense
    that is driving this country ever closer to Third World
    status. (The Heir-Apparent, Mark Carney, will be even
    WORSE because he's dedicated to Net Zero.)

    We need an election SO BADLY it's impossible to overstate
    it. According to Brian Lilley, who has sources within the
    Liberal Party, the Liberals are scheming with the NDP to
    prop up the Liberals until the absolute last possible
    minute under the constitution, which would delay the
    election until September 2026 (repeat 2026, NOT 2025)!
    That would give them ample time to do MUCH MORE damage to
    this country.

    I don't know about Harper being the best PM in my lifetime
    (bear in mind that I met Diefenbaker in person as a child
    - which wasn't all that much of an accomplishment as I was
    a 9 year old and my grandfather was running federally at
    the time - for non-Canadians Dief was roughly in the last
    days of Ike and JFK but left office for good in 1967) but
    no question his replacement was a shadow on him.

    Bottom line is by modern standards fiscally responsible
    and despite the rhetoric he didn't do anything incredibly
    shocking unlike Mr 45/47. Of course you could say much the
    same of Paul Martin Jr too. (Martin Sr ran for his party
    leadership and lost on the last ballot to Pierre Trudeau)

    Diefenbaker was still in the House of Commons as a front
    bencher in the early to mid 1970s. He was a shadow of
    himself then, but still there physically, if not mentally.

    I'll never forgive Diefenbaker for the Avro Arrow fiasco.
    Canadian engineers and scientists did a tremendous job
    on the creation of that jet which never got a fair chance
    to impress the rest of the world.

    OB TV: There is a Canadian made-for-TV movie "The Arrow"
    which will explain the work behind the ground-breaking
    engineering that helped to create the most advanced jet
    airplane of its time and how the whole project not only
    got scuttled, but literally destroyed on the decision
    made by John Diefenbaker.

    Nyssa, who holds a grudge a LONG time

    I thought Diefenbaker was a wolf.

    No, that's Wolfenstein.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 12 10:49:08 2025
    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 10:47:01 -0500, Nyssa <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Diefenbaker was still in the House of Commons as a front
    bencher in the early to mid 1970s. He was a shadow of
    himself then, but still there physically, if not mentally.

    I'll never forgive Diefenbaker for the Avro Arrow fiasco.
    Canadian engineers and scientists did a tremendous job
    on the creation of that jet which never got a fair chance
    to impress the rest of the world.

    Nor do I - and a LOT of those engineers went to the US after the Arrow cancellation. For what it's worth, before she was married my
    mother-in-law worked for Avro and was working one day when she heard a
    huge noise went to her window and saw the Arrow in flight.

    I would imagine in 2025 the group of people than can say that is
    fairly small.

    OB TV: There is a Canadian made-for-TV movie "The Arrow"
    which will explain the work behind the ground-breaking
    engineering that helped to create the most advanced jet
    airplane of its time and how the whole project not only
    got scuttled, but literally destroyed on the decision
    made by John Diefenbaker.

    Yep - it can reasonably be argued that Dief was tricked by the US
    government (at one point it looked as if fighters would be made
    obsolete by missiles) though in my opinion the real reason was that
    the Arrow cost 75% more than US fighters of that era

    Nyssa, who holds a grudge a LONG time

    Ditto - I think I also mentioned that I talked to Paul Martin Jr at a
    UBC Alumni event. It was a Thursday night and I asked him if he was in
    town for the Grey Cup that Sunday. (For non-Canadians that's the
    Canadian Football League championship game) He said he wished he could
    but had a speaking engagement in Toronto on the Friday. I laughed and
    said that with his friends he no doubt could have gotten pretty good
    seats!

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 12 10:52:21 2025
    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 17:47:14 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Feb 11, 2025 at 8:29:56 AM PST, "anim8rfsk" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Nyssa <[email protected]> wrote:
    The Horny Goat wrote:

    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 18:38:39 -0500, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    It still makes me angry that Canadian voters tossed out
    the best PM in my lifetime, Harper, and replaced him with
    Trudeau FOR NO GOOD REASON. All Trudeau offered was nice
    hair, lies about the Syrians, and a lot of SJW nonsense
    that is driving this country ever closer to Third World
    status. (The Heir-Apparent, Mark Carney, will be even
    WORSE because he's dedicated to Net Zero.)

    We need an election SO BADLY it's impossible to overstate
    it. According to Brian Lilley, who has sources within the
    Liberal Party, the Liberals are scheming with the NDP to
    prop up the Liberals until the absolute last possible
    minute under the constitution, which would delay the
    election until September 2026 (repeat 2026, NOT 2025)!
    That would give them ample time to do MUCH MORE damage to
    this country.

    I don't know about Harper being the best PM in my lifetime
    (bear in mind that I met Diefenbaker in person as a child
    - which wasn't all that much of an accomplishment as I was
    a 9 year old and my grandfather was running federally at
    the time - for non-Canadians Dief was roughly in the last
    days of Ike and JFK but left office for good in 1967) but
    no question his replacement was a shadow on him.

    Bottom line is by modern standards fiscally responsible
    and despite the rhetoric he didn't do anything incredibly
    shocking unlike Mr 45/47. Of course you could say much the
    same of Paul Martin Jr too. (Martin Sr ran for his party
    leadership and lost on the last ballot to Pierre Trudeau)

    Diefenbaker was still in the House of Commons as a front
    bencher in the early to mid 1970s. He was a shadow of
    himself then, but still there physically, if not mentally.

    I'll never forgive Diefenbaker for the Avro Arrow fiasco.
    Canadian engineers and scientists did a tremendous job
    on the creation of that jet which never got a fair chance
    to impress the rest of the world.

    OB TV: There is a Canadian made-for-TV movie "The Arrow"
    which will explain the work behind the ground-breaking
    engineering that helped to create the most advanced jet
    airplane of its time and how the whole project not only
    got scuttled, but literally destroyed on the decision
    made by John Diefenbaker.

    Nyssa, who holds a grudge a LONG time

    I thought Diefenbaker was a wolf.

    No, that's Wolfenstein.

    Probably one of the most notable items about Dief was that his first
    run for public office was a one on one (e.g. no other candidates) vs
    William Lyon Mackenzie King (later Canada's longest-serving prime
    minister ever) and was winning - until he got a MOST unwanted
    'endorsement' by the Saskatchewan Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan
    which pretty much tanked his campaign. He finally won his seat in
    1940.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Wed Feb 12 12:11:35 2025
    The Horny Goat <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 17:47:14 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Feb 11, 2025 at 8:29:56 AM PST, "anim8rfsk" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Nyssa <[email protected]> wrote:
    The Horny Goat wrote:

    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 18:38:39 -0500, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    It still makes me angry that Canadian voters tossed out
    the best PM in my lifetime, Harper, and replaced him with
    Trudeau FOR NO GOOD REASON. All Trudeau offered was nice
    hair, lies about the Syrians, and a lot of SJW nonsense
    that is driving this country ever closer to Third World
    status. (The Heir-Apparent, Mark Carney, will be even
    WORSE because he's dedicated to Net Zero.)

    We need an election SO BADLY it's impossible to overstate
    it. According to Brian Lilley, who has sources within the
    Liberal Party, the Liberals are scheming with the NDP to
    prop up the Liberals until the absolute last possible
    minute under the constitution, which would delay the
    election until September 2026 (repeat 2026, NOT 2025)!
    That would give them ample time to do MUCH MORE damage to
    this country.

    I don't know about Harper being the best PM in my lifetime
    (bear in mind that I met Diefenbaker in person as a child
    - which wasn't all that much of an accomplishment as I was
    a 9 year old and my grandfather was running federally at
    the time - for non-Canadians Dief was roughly in the last
    days of Ike and JFK but left office for good in 1967) but
    no question his replacement was a shadow on him.

    Bottom line is by modern standards fiscally responsible
    and despite the rhetoric he didn't do anything incredibly
    shocking unlike Mr 45/47. Of course you could say much the
    same of Paul Martin Jr too. (Martin Sr ran for his party
    leadership and lost on the last ballot to Pierre Trudeau)

    Diefenbaker was still in the House of Commons as a front
    bencher in the early to mid 1970s. He was a shadow of
    himself then, but still there physically, if not mentally.

    I'll never forgive Diefenbaker for the Avro Arrow fiasco.
    Canadian engineers and scientists did a tremendous job
    on the creation of that jet which never got a fair chance
    to impress the rest of the world.

    OB TV: There is a Canadian made-for-TV movie "The Arrow"
    which will explain the work behind the ground-breaking
    engineering that helped to create the most advanced jet
    airplane of its time and how the whole project not only
    got scuttled, but literally destroyed on the decision
    made by John Diefenbaker.

    Nyssa, who holds a grudge a LONG time

    I thought Diefenbaker was a wolf.

    No, that's Wolfenstein.

    Probably one of the most notable items about Dief was that his first
    run for public office was a one on one (e.g. no other candidates) vs
    William Lyon Mackenzie King (later Canada's longest-serving prime
    minister ever) and was winning - until he got a MOST unwanted
    'endorsement' by the Saskatchewan Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan
    which pretty much tanked his campaign. He finally won his seat in
    1940.


    Oh my God people did none of you watch DUE SOUTH?

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 12 16:16:41 2025
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 12:11:35 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    The Horny Goat <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 17:47:14 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Feb 11, 2025 at 8:29:56 AM PST, "anim8rfsk" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>
    Nyssa <[email protected]> wrote:
    The Horny Goat wrote:

    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 18:38:39 -0500, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    It still makes me angry that Canadian voters tossed out
    the best PM in my lifetime, Harper, and replaced him with
    Trudeau FOR NO GOOD REASON. All Trudeau offered was nice
    hair, lies about the Syrians, and a lot of SJW nonsense
    that is driving this country ever closer to Third World
    status. (The Heir-Apparent, Mark Carney, will be even
    WORSE because he's dedicated to Net Zero.)

    We need an election SO BADLY it's impossible to overstate
    it. According to Brian Lilley, who has sources within the
    Liberal Party, the Liberals are scheming with the NDP to
    prop up the Liberals until the absolute last possible
    minute under the constitution, which would delay the
    election until September 2026 (repeat 2026, NOT 2025)!
    That would give them ample time to do MUCH MORE damage to
    this country.

    I don't know about Harper being the best PM in my lifetime
    (bear in mind that I met Diefenbaker in person as a child
    - which wasn't all that much of an accomplishment as I was
    a 9 year old and my grandfather was running federally at
    the time - for non-Canadians Dief was roughly in the last
    days of Ike and JFK but left office for good in 1967) but
    no question his replacement was a shadow on him.

    Bottom line is by modern standards fiscally responsible
    and despite the rhetoric he didn't do anything incredibly
    shocking unlike Mr 45/47. Of course you could say much the
    same of Paul Martin Jr too. (Martin Sr ran for his party
    leadership and lost on the last ballot to Pierre Trudeau)

    Diefenbaker was still in the House of Commons as a front
    bencher in the early to mid 1970s. He was a shadow of
    himself then, but still there physically, if not mentally.

    I'll never forgive Diefenbaker for the Avro Arrow fiasco.
    Canadian engineers and scientists did a tremendous job
    on the creation of that jet which never got a fair chance
    to impress the rest of the world.

    OB TV: There is a Canadian made-for-TV movie "The Arrow"
    which will explain the work behind the ground-breaking
    engineering that helped to create the most advanced jet
    airplane of its time and how the whole project not only
    got scuttled, but literally destroyed on the decision
    made by John Diefenbaker.

    Nyssa, who holds a grudge a LONG time

    I thought Diefenbaker was a wolf.

    No, that's Wolfenstein.

    Probably one of the most notable items about Dief was that his first
    run for public office was a one on one (e.g. no other candidates) vs
    William Lyon Mackenzie King (later Canada's longest-serving prime
    minister ever) and was winning - until he got a MOST unwanted
    'endorsement' by the Saskatchewan Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan
    which pretty much tanked his campaign. He finally won his seat in
    1940.


    Oh my God people did none of you watch DUE SOUTH?

    That was a Canadian show. Why would you expect Canadians to have
    watched such a show? ;)

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Feb 12 23:35:35 2025
    shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 12:11:35 -0700, anim8rfsk <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    The Horny Goat <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 17:47:14 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Feb 11, 2025 at 8:29:56 AM PST, "anim8rfsk" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>
    Nyssa <[email protected]> wrote:
    The Horny Goat wrote:

    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 18:38:39 -0500, Rhino
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    It still makes me angry that Canadian voters tossed out
    the best PM in my lifetime, Harper, and replaced him with
    Trudeau FOR NO GOOD REASON. All Trudeau offered was nice
    hair, lies about the Syrians, and a lot of SJW nonsense
    that is driving this country ever closer to Third World
    status. (The Heir-Apparent, Mark Carney, will be even
    WORSE because he's dedicated to Net Zero.)

    We need an election SO BADLY it's impossible to overstate
    it. According to Brian Lilley, who has sources within the
    Liberal Party, the Liberals are scheming with the NDP to
    prop up the Liberals until the absolute last possible
    minute under the constitution, which would delay the
    election until September 2026 (repeat 2026, NOT 2025)!
    That would give them ample time to do MUCH MORE damage to
    this country.

    I don't know about Harper being the best PM in my lifetime
    (bear in mind that I met Diefenbaker in person as a child
    - which wasn't all that much of an accomplishment as I was
    a 9 year old and my grandfather was running federally at
    the time - for non-Canadians Dief was roughly in the last
    days of Ike and JFK but left office for good in 1967) but
    no question his replacement was a shadow on him.

    Bottom line is by modern standards fiscally responsible
    and despite the rhetoric he didn't do anything incredibly
    shocking unlike Mr 45/47. Of course you could say much the
    same of Paul Martin Jr too. (Martin Sr ran for his party
    leadership and lost on the last ballot to Pierre Trudeau)

    Diefenbaker was still in the House of Commons as a front
    bencher in the early to mid 1970s. He was a shadow of
    himself then, but still there physically, if not mentally.

    I'll never forgive Diefenbaker for the Avro Arrow fiasco.
    Canadian engineers and scientists did a tremendous job
    on the creation of that jet which never got a fair chance
    to impress the rest of the world.

    OB TV: There is a Canadian made-for-TV movie "The Arrow"
    which will explain the work behind the ground-breaking
    engineering that helped to create the most advanced jet
    airplane of its time and how the whole project not only
    got scuttled, but literally destroyed on the decision
    made by John Diefenbaker.

    Nyssa, who holds a grudge a LONG time

    I thought Diefenbaker was a wolf.

    No, that's Wolfenstein.

    Probably one of the most notable items about Dief was that his first
    run for public office was a one on one (e.g. no other candidates) vs
    William Lyon Mackenzie King (later Canada's longest-serving prime
    minister ever) and was winning - until he got a MOST unwanted
    'endorsement' by the Saskatchewan Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan
    which pretty much tanked his campaign. He finally won his seat in
    1940.


    Oh my God people did none of you watch DUE SOUTH?

    That was a Canadian show. Why would you expect Canadians to have
    watched such a show? ;)

    I loved that show. It was set in Chicago but produced in Toronto. Once a
    year they'd send a production crew to Chicago to shoot exteriors. Always cracked me up the seemingly random buildings they chose to stand in for well-known Chicago buildings, apparently because they liked the
    buildings they used better.

    I did hate the way David Marciano was written out. The show was out of production for two or three years, then returned to production. They
    brought in Callum Keith Rennie, an excellent actor, to be the new
    Broadhurst and for several episodes referred to him as "Ray", still
    pretending he was Marciano's character to protect an alleged undercover assignment. I thought it was disrespectful of the new actor.

    Marciano eventually returned for a few episodes.

    Dief got recast as well but no one pretended he was undercover. You had
    to suspend disbelief that the two Huskies were half wolves. (Which half?_

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  • From Pluted Pup@21:1/5 to Pluted Pup on Wed Feb 12 18:49:37 2025
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:44:52 -0800, Pluted Pup wrote:

    On Fri, 07 Feb 2025 03:23:18 -0800, Rhino wrote:

    I read this story in the National Post and found myself shaking my head:

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/syrian-canadian-who-allegedly-let-relative-use-his-passport-wins-chance-to-get-it-back

    This guy seriously misused his passport - from the looks of it, very deliberately - and the court has essentially said it was mean of the passport office to treat him the way they did.

    One judge makes a questionable decision and that means
    Canada is not a serious country?


    They SHOULD have deported both individuals and never let them back into
    the country: that's what a serious country would have done.

    Might be, might not. That's why it is questionable. Is
    there a particular reason these two should be singled out
    by a capricious legal system that let's so many get away with
    doing the same crimes, and is this reason Israel?

    How ignorant of me to say "capricious", Canada's legal
    system is systematic, like ours, with little leeway
    for judges. The official statement of the government
    is that immigration is always good, so crimes
    involving immigrants must be accepted and prosecuted
    at discount rates.


    It might disappoint you to know, that Israel also has courts
    that make questionable legal decisions, in case you're suggesting
    that Canada would be better off managed by Israel.

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  • From Pluted Pup@21:1/5 to Rhino on Wed Feb 12 18:44:52 2025
    On Fri, 07 Feb 2025 03:23:18 -0800, Rhino wrote:

    I read this story in the National Post and found myself shaking my head:

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/syrian-canadian-who-allegedly-let-relative-use-his-passport-wins-chance-to-get-it-back

    This guy seriously misused his passport - from the looks of it, very deliberately - and the court has essentially said it was mean of the
    passport office to treat him the way they did.

    One judge makes a questionable decision and that means
    Canada is not a serious country?


    They SHOULD have deported both individuals and never let them back into
    the country: that's what a serious country would have done.

    Might be, might not. That's why it is questionable. Is
    there a particular reason these two should be singled out
    by a capricious legal system that let's so many get away with
    doing the same crimes, and is this reason Israel?

    It might disappoint you to know, that Israel also has courts
    that make questionable legal decisions, in case you're suggesting
    that Canada would be better off managed by Israel.

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