On 5/13/25 7:38 PM, David Dalton wrote:
As I state on the "Waning Clamshell/another reset to pre-judging”
thread on alt.religion.druid, there are now 283 DNA-based aliens
in my region, which is basically the Earth Moon system but not
including deep inside the Earth and the Moon (see that thread
for an exact description).
I don't believe that there's any aliens here.
Oh, aliens have sent tech here, for certain.
When we search for life on distant worlds what we're actually
doing is analyzing light.
Different elements absorb different wavelengths...
This is how we can be all but certain of life on a world more
than 100 light years away!
But, think of this: We've only been searching for maybe 30 years,
or a little more.
That's it.
In a little more than 30 years we went from finding our very first
exoplanet to a very STRONG candidate for a life bearing world...
When did the earth become detectable this way to other worlds?
BILLIONS of years ago!
BILLIONS!
So if once AND ONLY ONCE every million years or so some aliens
detect the earth, notice that we're life bearing and sent a probe
to give us a look, there's been 2,0000 alien probes sent toards
us just since The Great Oxidation Event, the planet's first great
extinction event.
If it's just ONCE every million years, there's been over 60 since
the dinosaurs went extinct...
There's been two to three since the genus Homo arose -- Humans!
Again, that's if other civilizations go looking, spot us and send
a probe ONCE every million years...
On 5/13/25 7:38 PM, David Dalton wrote:
As I state on the "Waning Clamshell/another reset to pre-judging”
thread on alt.religion.druid, there are now 283 DNA-based aliens
in my region, which is basically the Earth Moon system but not
including deep inside the Earth and the Moon (see that thread
for an exact description).
I don't believe that there's any aliens here.
Oh, aliens have sent tech here, for certain.
When we search for life on distant worlds what we're actually
doing is analyzing light.
Different elements absorb different wavelengths...
This is how we can be all but certain of life on a world more
than 100 light years away!
But, think of this: We've only been searching for maybe 30 years,
or a little more.
That's it.
In a little more than 30 years we went from finding our very first
exoplanet to a very STRONG candidate for a life bearing world...
When did the earth become detectable this way to other worlds?
BILLIONS of years ago!
BILLIONS!
So if once AND ONLY ONCE every million years or so some aliens
detect the earth, notice that we're life bearing and sent a probe
to give us a look, there's been 2,0000 alien probes sent toards
us just since The Great Oxidation Event, the planet's first great
extinction event.
If it's just ONCE every million years, there's been over 60 since
the dinosaurs went extinct...
There's been two to three since the genus Homo arose -- Humans!
Again, that's if other civilizations go looking, spot us and send
a probe ONCE every million years...
On 5/14/25 11:46 AM, jojo wrote:
million years is too long,
No it isn't.
You're not thinking clearly, just reacting.
In all probability probes have been sent towards the earth for the
last 2 billion years, at least. All I'm saying is if it's a once
in a million year event, an alien civilization sending a probe,
there's been over 60 since the dinosaurs, and 2 to 3 since humans,
the genus Homo, arose.
Andrew W wrote:
"JTEM" wrote in message news:1000t6g$24um9$[email protected]...
I don't believe that there's any aliens here.
That's what governments and mainstream scientists keep claiming. Find out
why they say that.
They say that because there aren't any here.
Oh, aliens have sent tech here, for certain.
When we search for life on distant worlds what we're actually
doing is analyzing light.
Different elements absorb different wavelengths...
This is how we can be all but certain of life on a world more
than 100 light years away!
But, think of this: We've only been searching for maybe 30 years,
or a little more.
It's been far longer than that.
No. We hadn't the means to search.
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
In a little more than 30 years we went from finding our very first
exoplanet to a very STRONG candidate for a life bearing world...
There's a lot more the gov. are not telling us about.
Absolutely. But one of those things is NOT aliens arriving here on
Earth.
I am also hoping they are scanning the Internet for the number 283.
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their funding
and reputations.
On 5/15/25 12:38 AM, Andrew W wrote:
And they're too primitive to know how to fold space and come
here themselves?
That's called an "Argument from ignorance."
"We don't know so, they can do it!"
Actually, as far as we know it's impossible. As far as we know
there's no way any civilization no matter how advanced could
ever do it.
"But..but...we don't know, so they can!"
We have to base our conjecture on reality.
On 5/14/25 11:46 AM, jojo wrote:
million years is too long, no civilization has cohered for more
than... 1500 years?? plus technology, an alien society and its
culture is not going to remain stagnant for a million years,
that is just absurd!!
I have no idea what you're saying.
Voyager 2 will pass "close" by the star Ross 248 in a mere 40,000
years.
Technology has advanced every day since it's launch and yet it was
launched.
Again, I'm saying that no aliens are here, none of attempted the
trip.
But they are sending technology just as we are.
In fact, when the Voyagers were launched he lacked the means to
detect
exoplanets! That would come later. Yet we were already sending deep
space probes...
So, if you "Argue" that this sort of thing only happens rarely --
maybe
once in a million years -- will ONE and only ONE amongst the
alien bearing worlds send a probe our way, check out this planet
with all the
tell tale signs of life.
That would STILL allow for over 60 arrivals since the dinosaurs. And
between 2 and 3 since humans -- the genus Homo -- have arose.
On 14-May-25 7:38 am, David Dalton wrote:
I am also hoping they are scanning the Internet for the number 283.
Why would they be scanning the Internet for the number of aliens you're
aware of? How would they even know which number to scan for?
Sylvia
On 5/15/25 5:56 PM, David Dalton wrote:
If there are actually 283 aliens in the Earth Moon system
Would that be 283 aliens -- like two extended families plus
their pets -- or do you mean representatives of 283 alien
species, or "Types" of aliens if you will?
On 5/15/25 12:38 AM, Andrew W wrote:
And they're too primitive to know how to fold space and come here
themselves?
That's called an "Argument from ignorance."
"We don't know so, they can do it!"
Actually, as far as we know it's impossible. As far as we know
there's no way any civilization no matter how advanced could
ever do it.
"But..but...we don't know, so they can!"
We have to base our conjecture on reality.
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their funding
and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Is everything a conspiracy for you?
Andrew W wrote:
Plenty of people have met ETs, even in biblical times and before. Some
have been in their craft.
Here's what the Google says you need just to visit another part of the
earth. No, NOT a strange new planet but just a different part of this
planet:
To travel to Nigeria, it's crucial to get vaccinated against several >diseases. Specifically, the CDC and WHO recommend vaccinations for yellow >fever, typhoid, hepatitis A, polio, rabies, hepatitis B, and meningitis. >Additionally, consider getting up-to-date on routine vaccines like measles, >mumps, rubella, chickenpox, and influenza. Passport Health also recommends >considering COVID-19, pneumonia, shingles, and Tdap (tetanus, diphtheria, >pertussis) vaccinations
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their funding
and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and humanity's
true history, and that would lead to them losing power and profits.
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their funding
and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and humanity's
true history, and that would lead to them losing power and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message >news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]: >>
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their funding >>>>> and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and humanity's >>> true history, and that would lead to them losing power and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not telling
the people the important details like the earth's true history and who/what >else is in this galaxy.
In article <1005tds$3cocb$[email protected]>, Andrew W <[email protected]> wrote:
Vaxes? How did that become the topic?
If it's not 36 bits, you're not playing with a full DEC.
On 5/15/25 7:18 PM, Andrew W wrote:
"JTEM" wrote in message news:1003u8e$2vgag$[email protected]...
That's called an "Argument from ignorance."
"We don't know so, they can do it!"
The top levels of our governments and military do know.
Thank goodness for your ESP!
Seeing how you can read their minds, why don't you just tell
us where these aliens are hiding?
The unspoken lines in this story is how long these aliens
have been here,
and how many people that necessitates being
in on the secret without it all getting out...
It's not even good science fiction, really. More like bad
fan fiction.
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their
funding and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
humanity's true history, and that would lead to them losing power
and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not
telling the people the important details like the earth's true history
and who/what else is in this galaxy.
On 5/15/25 12:51 PM, jojo wrote:
aliens could be here
You've confused the theoretically possible for the probable.
It's theoretically possible that you could Quantum Tunnel right
through the floor, for example, but it's so improbable that
multiple universes could exist back to back without ever once
seeing anything approaching your mass managing to Quantum
Tunnel through a solid structure.
This is a an extremely common and quite annoying error that
people make. You cling to the "Theoretically possibly" label
while ignoring the "So improbable that you'd have a better
shot at teaching your goldfish to sing & dance."
On 5/15/25 12:52 PM, jojo wrote:
our theory and understanding of the universe is very much
incomplete
You're simply illustrating my point: The argument from ignorance.
"Well as far as we know there's no way it could happen, so they must
be doing it all the time."
No. That's ridiculous.
On 5/15/25 12:51 PM, jojo wrote:
aliens could be here,
Again, you're confusing "Possibility" with "Probability."
It's possible that you could win the Powerball jackpot eight
times in a row. It's so improbable as to render the idea
laughable but none the less it is possible.
There comes a point where probabilities are so minute, things
are so improbable that it's foolish to entertain them.
This is reality.
my point is even if these aliens sent probes say a million
years ago, considering the rate of technological progress, they
will have in.. say 50 or 100 years figured out how to outrun
that old probe and in another 250 years found ways to even go
superluminal, so as to render that old probe's speed irrelevant.
We've been sending probes since 1977. By your argument, we haven't.
Voyager I & II never launched, because we could do better later.
Or, put another way: I honestly don't understand what you're
saying.
We know you're not raising any issue that would prevent the
sending of
a probe, because we ourselves have sent probes even though our tech
continues to advance.
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
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"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
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"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
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"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
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"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
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We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their
funding and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
humanity's true history, and that would lead to them losing power
and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not
telling the people the important details like the earth's true history
and who/what else is in this galaxy.
OK, it is a slow news day,
let's explore that first one.
What is Earth's "true history"
that "they" are not telling us?
i believe i was stating the opposite, that if a technological
civilization exists which is even 100 years more advanced than
our current state, we would not be able to even comprehend their
engineered products.
On May 15, 2025, Sylvia Else wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):
On 14-May-25 7:38 am, David Dalton wrote:
I am also hoping they are scanning the Internet for the number 283.
Why would they be scanning the Internet for the number of aliens you're
aware of? How would they even know which number to scan for?
Sylvia
If there are actually 283 aliens in the Earth Moon system,
they might want to know if/when someone is aware of that.
On 16-May-25 5:56 am, David Dalton wrote:
On May 15, 2025, Sylvia Else wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):
On 14-May-25 7:38 am, David Dalton wrote:
I am also hoping they are scanning the Internet for the
number 283.
Why would they be scanning the Internet for the number of
aliens you're
aware of? How would they even know which number to scan for?
Sylvia
If there are actually 283 aliens in the Earth Moon system,
they might want to know if/when someone is aware of that.
But someone only knows about 282 two of them, that's not a problem?
Sylvia
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message >news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]: >>
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their funding >>>>> and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and humanity's >>> true history, and that would lead to them losing power and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not telling
the people the important details like the earth's true history and who/what >else is in this galaxy.
On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]: >>>
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their funding >>>>>> and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and humanity's >>>> true history, and that would lead to them losing power and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not telling
the people the important details like the earth's true history and who/what >> else is in this galaxy.
I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true
history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.
But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us,
you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing it.
'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the
information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has destroyed
the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind controlled by the elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'
On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?
On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]: >>>
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their funding >>>>>> and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and humanity's >>>> true history, and that would lead to them losing power and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not telling >>the people the important details like the earth's true history and who/what >>else is in this galaxy.
I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true
history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.
But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us,
you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing it.
'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the
information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has destroyed
the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind controlled by the >elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'
On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?
On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their
funding and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
humanity's true history, and that would lead to them losing power
and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not
telling the people the important details like the earth's true history
and who/what else is in this galaxy.
I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true
history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.
But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us,
you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing it.
'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the
information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has destroyed
the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind controlled by the elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'
On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?
On 5/16/25 11:15 AM, jojo wrote:
sooo... aliens are a theoretical construct??
It seems implausible that you could fail so miserably at
discerning the context. I have to assume that you suffer
from a narcissistic personality disorder, at the very
least, and are thus compelled to obfuscate.
To anyone else: The claim is that aliens are here, present
in our solar system, not merely existing.
On 5/16/25 11:17 AM, jojo wrote:
i am saying.... for example, our phones have more compute power
than all of the apollo missions combined.
It's meaningless.
What you were pretending is that aliens couldn't send tech our way
because so much time would go by before it reached us that,
undoubtedly, their technology would have greatly exceeded anything
they sent. Which is crazy, because we launched the Voyager probes
back in the 1970s and our advancement in tech since then has not
caused them to vanish, at least not yet.
On 5/16/25 11:21 AM, jojo wrote:
i believe i was stating the opposite, that if a technological
civilization exists which is even 100 years more advanced than
our current state, we would not be able to even comprehend
their engineered products.
This is pointless, as well as baseless. It does not even
align at all with the claim under debate, that aliens are
present in our solar system and/or the earth itself.
Smash an iPhone into pieces and send it back in time 100 years.
If they found any of the pieces, if they went into the hands of
men of science, they'd know they were artificial, that it was
some kind of tech. They'd have no idea what they were pieces to
but they would know that it was fragments of a technology.
You can think of it like a written language: You might not be
able to read it but you can recognize what it is. You know it's
writing. You just can't read it. Given enough, given some added
context -- maybe depictions of people or events accompanying
this language -- you may even eventually translate it. But you
don't have to translate it to know what it is, and that it
isn't natural.
On 5/16/25 7:36 AM, Andrew W wrote:
No, years of research.
Yes, I saw a documentary on this stuff. Apparently the aliens
have been visiting the earth since at least the paleolithic,
according to this documentary. It illustrated The Great Gazoo
interacting with the typical stone age man, his neighbor
"Barney" and even his dog (dinosaur) named "Dino." It was
quite revealing.
I'm not going to ask you how much of your work is based on
source materials such as this, but it appears to be quite a
lot of it, based on your remarks.
On 5/15/25 7:29 PM, Andrew W wrote:
"JTEM" wrote in message news:1003v7l$2vgag$[email protected]...
Here's what the Google says you need just to visit another part of the
earth. No, NOT a strange new planet but just a different part of this
planet:
To travel to Nigeria, it's crucial to get vaccinated against several
diseases. Specifically, the CDC and WHO recommend vaccinations for
yellow fever, typhoid, hepatitis A, polio, rabies, hepatitis B, and
meningitis. Additionally, consider getting up-to-date on routine
vaccines like measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, and influenza.
Passport Health also recommends considering COVID-19, pneumonia,
shingles, and Tdap (tetanus, diphtheria, pertussis) vaccinations
Vaxes? How did that become the topic?
You're trolling. For sure. No question.
Why do you cling so hard to mainstream science?
"Why, just look at all the anti-gravity machines flying around!"
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
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"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
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"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
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"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their
funding and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
humanity's true history, and that would lead to them losing power
and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not
telling the people the important details like the earth's true history
and who/what else is in this galaxy.
OK, it is a slow news day,
let's explore that first one.
What is Earth's "true history"
that "they" are not telling us?
Malte Runz <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:
On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message >>>news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their
funding and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
humanity's true history, and that would lead to them losing power
and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not
telling the people the important details like the earth's true history >>>and who/what else is in this galaxy.
I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true
history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.
But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us,
you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing it.
'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the
information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has destroyed
the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind controlled by the
elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'
On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?
It is depressing there are so many
conspiracy-behind-everything kooks like
him. Their lives re so unremarkable and
enpty they invent a "special knowledge"
they think elevates them above everyone
else.
On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their funding >>>>>> and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
humanity's
true history, and that would lead to them losing power and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not telling >>the people the important details like the earth's true history and
who/what
else is in this galaxy.
I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true
history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.
But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us,
you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing it.
'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the
information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has destroyed
the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind controlled by the >elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'
On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Malte Runz <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their
funding and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
humanity's true history, and that would lead to them losing power
and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not
telling the people the important details like the earth's true history >>>> and who/what else is in this galaxy.
I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true
history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.
But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us,
you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing it.
'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the
information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has destroyed
the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind controlled by the
elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'
On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?
It is depressing there are so many
conspiracy-behind-everything kooks like
him. Their lives re so unremarkable and
enpty they invent a "special knowledge"
they think elevates them above everyone
else.
But scientists never invent new theories to become prominent and get government grants?
Every ten years or so they throw out most of their theories and make up
new ones. But you still trust them that only they have the 'facts'.
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Malte Runz <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:
On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message >>>>news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their
funding and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
humanity's true history, and that would lead to them losing power
and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not >>>>telling the people the important details like the earth's true
history and who/what else is in this galaxy.
I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true
history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.
But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us,
you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing
it.
'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the
information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has
destroyed the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind
controlled by the elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'
On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?
It is depressing there are so many
conspiracy-behind-everything kooks like
him. Their lives re so unremarkable and
enpty they invent a "special knowledge"
they think elevates them above everyone
else.
But scientists never invent new theories to become prominent and get government grants?
Every ten years or so they throw out most of their theories and make
up new ones. But you still trust them that only they have the 'facts'.
JTEM wrote:
On 5/16/25 11:15 AM, jojo wrote:
sooo... aliens are a theoretical construct??
It seems implausible that you could fail so miserably at
discerning the context. I have to assume that you suffer
from a narcissistic personality disorder, at the very
least, and are thus compelled to obfuscate.
To anyone else: The claim is that aliens are here, present
in our solar system, not merely existing.
okay, super. so its a claim, and not something either theoretically
possible nor probable? right?
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:[email protected]...history
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:100676l$3i7jt$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their
funding and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
humanity's true history, and that would lead to them losing power
and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not
telling the people the important details like the earth's true
and who/what else is in this galaxy.
OK, it is a slow news day,
let's explore that first one.
What is Earth's "true history"
that "they" are not telling us?
You will learn that when you're ready, if you live that long.
Clue: Humanity has never been alone.
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1008g4q$8q9$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in messagehistory
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:100676l$3i7jt$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their
funding and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
humanity's true history, and that would lead to them losing power
and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not
telling the people the important details like the earth's true
and who/what else is in this galaxy.
OK, it is a slow news day,
let's explore that first one.
What is Earth's "true history"
that "they" are not telling us?
You will learn that when you're ready, if you live that long.
I knew you would run away.
Clue: Humanity has never been alone.
Who say it was?
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1008hi7$fig$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Malte Runz <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:
On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message >>>>>news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not >>>>>telling the people the important details like the earth's true >>>>>history and who/what else is in this galaxy.
I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true
history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.
But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us,
you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing
it.
'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the
information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has
destroyed the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind
controlled by the elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'
On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?
It is depressing there are so many
conspiracy-behind-everything kooks like
him. Their lives re so unremarkable and
enpty they invent a "special knowledge"
they think elevates them above everyone
else.
But scientists never invent new theories to become prominent and get
government grants?
You know that scientific grant requests
get previewed by other scientists, no?
Every ten years or so they throw out most of their theories and make
up new ones. But you still trust them that only they have the 'facts'.
Bingo. That is where Nobel prizes come
from, disproving a previously held theory
with a new one, backed by evidence.
We
thought the world was static, then we
discovered plate techtonics, we thought
the moon was dead, then we discoved
moonquakes, we thought gravity was just
attractive, then we discovered it can
repel things. Ain't science grand?
And since I'm reading this in sci.skeptic, and since this
crap is different woo-woo crap and has zip to do with claims
of the paranormal, I'll sign off this thread.
On 5/16/25 16:25, Andrew W wrote:snip
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
It is depressing there are so many
conspiracy-behind-everything kooks like
him. Their lives re so unremarkable and
enpty they invent a "special knowledge"
they think elevates them above everyone
else.
But scientists never invent new theories to become prominent and get
government grants?
Every ten years or so they throw out most of their theories and make
up new ones. But you still trust them that only they have the 'facts'.
On 5/16/25 16:25, Andrew W wrote:snip
But scientists never invent new theories to become prominent and get
government grants?
Every ten years or so they throw out most of their theories and make
up new ones. But you still trust them that only they have the 'facts'.
Nonsense! Scientists invent new theories to explain the new facts observed as the instruments they use become better and find
facts inexplicable in terms of the old theories.
bliss
On 5/16/25 16:25, Andrew W wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Malte Runz <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by >>>>>>>>> government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their >>>>>>>>> funding and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
humanity's true history, and that would lead to them losing power >>>>>>> and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not
telling the people the important details like the earth's true history >>>>> and who/what else is in this galaxy.
I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true
history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.
But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us,
you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing it.
'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the
information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has destroyed >>>> the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind controlled by the
elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'
On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?
It is depressing there are so many
conspiracy-behind-everything kooks like
him. Their lives re so unremarkable and
enpty they invent a "special knowledge"
they think elevates them above everyone
else.
But scientists never invent new theories to become prominent and get
government grants?
Every ten years or so they throw out most of their theories and make up
new ones. But you still trust them that only they have the 'facts'.
Nonsense! Scientists invent new theories to explain the new facts
observed as the instruments they use become better and find
facts inexplicable in terms of the old theories.
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >news:[email protected]...
On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message >>>news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their funding >>>>>>> and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
humanity's
true history, and that would lead to them losing power and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not telling >>>the people the important details like the earth's true history and >>>who/what
else is in this galaxy.
I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true
history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.
But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us,
you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing it.
Again you want info from me, because you have none of your own. ...
... But you're
not even truly interested in this subject.
Why would anyone have to go to the trouble of sharing information with jerks >like you who think with their emotions and can only handle following >authorities?
'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the >>information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has destroyed
the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind controlled by the >>elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'
All true.
On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?
Our governments never have anything new on this subject but you would never >dare tell them that. You have never realised that they are full of excuses >and peanut offerings. ...
... You always just point fingers at ordinary people.
snip
And since I'm reading this in sci.skeptic, and since this
crap is different woo-woo crap and has zip to do with claims
of the paranormal, I'll sign off this thread.
I'm reading from sf.written where there hasn't been a continuous active
loony troll for a while and I am temporarily fascinated by the woo-woo
crap. I think the thread will peter out before the kill file will need
to be employed.
On Sat, 17 May 2025 09:17:46 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...
On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message >>>>news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their
funding
and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
humanity's
true history, and that would lead to them losing power and profits. >>>>>>
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not >>>>telling
the people the important details like the earth's true history and >>>>who/what
else is in this galaxy.
I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true >>>history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.
But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us, >>>you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing it.
Again you want info from me, because you have none of your own. ...
See below:
'You're too lazy to do your own research.'
... But you're
not even truly interested in this subject.
Why would anyone have to go to the trouble of sharing information with >>jerks
like you who think with their emotions and can only handle following >>authorities?
See below:
'You only believe MSM.'
'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the >>>information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has destroyed >>>the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind controlled by the >>>elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'
All true.
I know. It's all you ever had and we've hear your excuses a million
times.
On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?
Our governments never have anything new on this subject but you would
never
dare tell them that. You have never realised that they are full of excuses >>and peanut offerings. ...
See above:
'The deep state has destroyed the evidence.'
... You always just point fingers at ordinary people.
But you're not ordinary, are you?
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:[email protected]...email.me:
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1008g4q$8q9$1@dont-
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in messagehistory
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:100676l$3i7jt$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by >>>>>>>>> government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their >>>>>>>>> funding and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
humanity's true history, and that would lead to them losing power >>>>>>> and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not
telling the people the important details like the earth's true
and who/what else is in this galaxy.
OK, it is a slow news day,
let's explore that first one.
What is Earth's "true history"
that "they" are not telling us?
You will learn that when you're ready, if you live that long.
I knew you would run away.
Yes every smart person runs away from dumb jerks.
"jojo" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
JTEM wrote:
On 5/16/25 11:15 AM, jojo wrote:
sooo... aliens are a theoretical construct??
It seems implausible that you could fail so miserably at
discerning the context. I have to assume that you suffer
from a narcissistic personality disorder, at the very
least, and are thus compelled to obfuscate.
And there's a lot of that that goes on in these groups.
To anyone else: The claim is that aliens are here, present
in our solar system, not merely existing.
okay, super. so its a claim, and not something either
theoretically possible nor probable? right?
Only if you look at mainstream media, mainstream science and
governments and nothing else.
"jojo" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
JTEM wrote:
On 5/16/25 11:15 AM, jojo wrote:
sooo... aliens are a theoretical construct??
It seems implausible that you could fail so miserably at
discerning the context. I have to assume that you suffer
from a narcissistic personality disorder, at the very
least, and are thus compelled to obfuscate.
And there's a lot of that that goes on in these groups.
To anyone else: The claim is that aliens are here, present
in our solar system, not merely existing.
okay, super. so its a claim, and not something either theoretically >>possible nor probable? right?
Only if you look at mainstream media, mainstream science and
governments and nothing else.
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1008hi7$fig$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Malte Runz <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not
telling the people the important details like the earth's true
history and who/what else is in this galaxy.
I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true
history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.
But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us,
you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing
it.
'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the
information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has
destroyed the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind
controlled by the elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'
On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless >>>>> you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?
It is depressing there are so many
conspiracy-behind-everything kooks like
him. Their lives re so unremarkable and
enpty they invent a "special knowledge"
they think elevates them above everyone
else.
But scientists never invent new theories to become prominent and get
government grants?
You know that scientific grant requests
get previewed by other scientists, no?
And they are more trustworthy and have nothing to gain? It's basically a club.
Every ten years or so they throw out most of their theories and make
up new ones. But you still trust them that only they have the 'facts'.
Bingo. That is where Nobel prizes come
from, disproving a previously held theory
with a new one, backed by evidence.
Thin evidence that's open to interpretation. But they get their money.
And Nobel prizes are another motivation and fame generator.
We
thought the world was static, then we
discovered plate techtonics, we thought
the moon was dead, then we discoved
moonquakes, we thought gravity was just
attractive, then we discovered it can
repel things. Ain't science grand?
So mainstream scientists used to be really dumb. Now they're less dumb.
Many ancient people knew more about the stars as depicted in wall art
than many later scientists.
In article <10091ue$6ems$[email protected]>, Titus G
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 17/05/25 05:41, Bob Casanova wrote:
snip
And since I'm reading this in sci.skeptic, and since this
crap is different woo-woo crap and has zip to do with claims
of the paranormal, I'll sign off this thread.
I'm reading from sf.written where there hasn't been a continuous
active loony troll for a while and I am temporarily fascinated by the >>woo-woo crap. I think the thread will peter out before the kill file
will need to be employed.
I am amused at all the railing against the "mainstream media" in a
thread about aliens watching television, which is mainstream media at
it's finest.
Gomer Pyle debuted in 1964, sixty-one years ago. This means it is now visible to aliens as far away as 6 Ceti. With crap like that on view,
is it any wonder that they have made no attempt to contact us? And
only a year later Green Acres came out... just imagine what the folks
at Sirius and Procyon must think of us.
--scott
A lot of facts some scientists declared in the past were not facts in
the first place. And a lot of present ones will not be in the future.
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1008q7s$1rnm$[email protected]:
"jojo" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
JTEM wrote:
On 5/16/25 11:15 AM, jojo wrote:
sooo... aliens are a theoretical construct??
It seems implausible that you could fail so miserably at
discerning the context. I have to assume that you suffer
from a narcissistic personality disorder, at the very
least, and are thus compelled to obfuscate.
And there's a lot of that that goes on in these groups.
To anyone else: The claim is that aliens are here, present
in our solar system, not merely existing.
okay, super. so its a claim, and not something either theoretically >>>possible nor probable? right?
Only if you look at mainstream media, mainstream science and
governments and nothing else.
What is "non-mainstream" science?
Creation science?
Christian science?
Metaphysical science?
Andrew W wrote:
"jojo" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
JTEM wrote:
On 5/16/25 11:15 AM, jojo wrote:
sooo... aliens are a theoretical construct??
It seems implausible that you could fail so miserably at
discerning the context. I have to assume that you suffer
from a narcissistic personality disorder, at the very
least, and are thus compelled to obfuscate.
And there's a lot of that that goes on in these groups.
To anyone else: The claim is that aliens are here, present
in our solar system, not merely existing.
okay, super. so its a claim, and not something either theoretically
possible nor probable? right?
Only if you look at mainstream media, mainstream science and governments
and nothing else.
i am a ufo fan, even though elon said that there is no evidence and i
believe he is in the best position to know, i still feel we are not exactly >alone here.
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1008r6v$5ro1$1@dont-
email.me:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in messageemail.me:
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1008g4q$8q9$1@dont-
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:100676l$3i7jt$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by >>>>>>>>>> government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their >>>>>>>>>> funding and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
humanity's true history, and that would lead to them losing power >>>>>>>> and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not
telling the people the important details like the earth's true >>>history
and who/what else is in this galaxy.
OK, it is a slow news day,
let's explore that first one.
What is Earth's "true history"
that "they" are not telling us?
You will learn that when you're ready, if you live that long.
I knew you would run away.
Yes every smart person runs away from dumb jerks.
"....important details like the earth's
true history"
Still waiting.
[email protected] (Scott Dorsey) wrote in
news:1009sql$o2o$[email protected]:
In article <10091ue$6ems$[email protected]>, Titus G
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 17/05/25 05:41, Bob Casanova wrote:
snip
And since I'm reading this in sci.skeptic, and since this
crap is different woo-woo crap and has zip to do with claims
of the paranormal, I'll sign off this thread.
I'm reading from sf.written where there hasn't been a continuous
active loony troll for a while and I am temporarily fascinated by the >>>woo-woo crap. I think the thread will peter out before the kill file
will need to be employed.
I am amused at all the railing against the "mainstream media" in a
thread about aliens watching television, which is mainstream media at
it's finest.
Gomer Pyle debuted in 1964, sixty-one years ago. This means it is now
visible to aliens as far away as 6 Ceti. With crap like that on view,
is it any wonder that they have made no attempt to contact us? And
only a year later Green Acres came out... just imagine what the folks
at Sirius and Procyon must think of us.
--scott
At least they get to watch
Rocky and Bullwinkle and Dobia Gillis.
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:10098uc$7vri$[email protected]:
A lot of facts some scientists declared in the past were not facts in
the first place. And a lot of present ones will not be in the future.
You make that sound like a negative.
On 5/16/25 19:19, Andrew W wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1008hi7$fig$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Malte Runz <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not >>>>>>> telling the people the important details like the earth's true
history and who/what else is in this galaxy.
I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true >>>>>> history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy. >>>>>>
But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us, >>>>>> you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing
it.
'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the
information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has
destroyed the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind
controlled by the elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'
On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless >>>>>> you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool? >>>>>
It is depressing there are so many
conspiracy-behind-everything kooks like
him. Their lives re so unremarkable and
enpty they invent a "special knowledge"
they think elevates them above everyone
else.
But scientists never invent new theories to become prominent and get
government grants?
You know that scientific grant requests
get previewed by other scientists, no?
And they are more trustworthy and have nothing to gain? It's basically a
club.
A very internally competitive club where the scientists try to find flaws
in
data, its acquistion, and the logic usually mathematical to reject the new >theories. What they have to gain is the sharing of possibly accurate data >and ideas. Generally until an experiment or data acquistion mode is tested >in another laboratory it is not considered proven or the theory relating to >it is considered for acceptance.
Yes it takes years to gain the skills necessary for scientific and/or >technological
research to be done but you would not be sitting whereever you are and
typ[ng into your computer if poeple did not no devote themselves to such >studies. I will remind you or inform you if you did not know that when I
was young computers were mostly human beings who devoted themselves
to mathematics.
Computers then became gigantic electrical machines then electronic
machines which materials reseach managed to reduce to much handier
sizes. You are using the results of scientific research and many
theoretical
changes to communicate so yoiu should consider that seriously when
you come off with your half-baked ideas about science and scientists.
Every ten years or so they throw out most of their theories and make
up new ones. But you still trust them that only they have the 'facts'. >>>>
Bingo. That is where Nobel prizes come
from, disproving a previously held theory
with a new one, backed by evidence.
Thin evidence that's open to interpretation. But they get their money.
And Nobel prizes are another motivation and fame generator.
We
thought the world was static, then we
discovered plate techtonics, we thought
the moon was dead, then we discoved
moonquakes, we thought gravity was just
attractive, then we discovered it can
repel things. Ain't science grand?
So mainstream scientists used to be really dumb. Now they're less dumb.
Many ancient people knew more about the stars as depicted in wall art
than many later scientists.
The ancients built non-optical observatories to study the
heavens with the unaided eye.
But they had no idea of the nature of the Sun or of other stars as far
as we know. Some figured out the Earth was more spherical than
flat but no great knowlege of the stars but the knowlege of their
obsevation. Mostly they did observations to construct astrological
charts and to make sure of the Quarter-Days i.e. Eqinoxes and
Solstices. Which is what a lot of ancient monuments were constructed
to determine.
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:10098uc$7vri$[email protected]:
A lot of facts some scientists declared in the past were not facts in
the first place. And a lot of present ones will not be in the future.
You make that sound like a negative.
It sounds like you're totally entranced by popular science.
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1008q7s$1rnm$[email protected]:
"jojo" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
JTEM wrote:
On 5/16/25 11:15 AM, jojo wrote:
sooo... aliens are a theoretical construct??
It seems implausible that you could fail so miserably at
discerning the context. I have to assume that you suffer
from a narcissistic personality disorder, at the very
least, and are thus compelled to obfuscate.
And there's a lot of that that goes on in these groups.
To anyone else: The claim is that aliens are here, present
in our solar system, not merely existing.
okay, super. so its a claim, and not something either theoretically >>>>possible nor probable? right?
Only if you look at mainstream media, mainstream science and
governments and nothing else.
What is "non-mainstream" science?
Creation science?
No
Christian science?
Same thing.
Metaphysical science?
You are clueless. It's any science that's not suppressed by
governments and certain celebrity scientists.
"Bobbie Sellers" wrote in message news:100ah56$fsq2$[email protected]...
On 5/16/25 19:19, Andrew W wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1008hi7$fig$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Malte Runz <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not >>>>>>>> telling the people the important details like the earth's true >>>>>>>> history and who/what else is in this galaxy.
I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true >>>>>>> history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy. >>>>>>>
But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us, >>>>>>> you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing >>>>>>> it.
'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the >>>>>>> information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has
destroyed the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind
controlled by the elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'
On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless >>>>>>> you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool? >>>>>>
It is depressing there are so many
conspiracy-behind-everything kooks like
him. Their lives re so unremarkable and
enpty they invent a "special knowledge"
they think elevates them above everyone
else.
But scientists never invent new theories to become prominent and get >>>>> government grants?
You know that scientific grant requests
get previewed by other scientists, no?
And they are more trustworthy and have nothing to gain? It's basically a >>> club.
A very internally competitive club where the scientists try to find flaws >>in
data, its acquistion, and the logic usually mathematical to reject the new >>theories. What they have to gain is the sharing of possibly accurate data >>and ideas. Generally until an experiment or data acquistion mode is tested >>in another laboratory it is not considered proven or the theory relating to >>it is considered for acceptance.
Yes that does happen, but what also happens is the establishments deride and >suppress discoveries that would ruin their narratives. ...
Much of the science debates that go on are also to distract the masses and >muddy the waters.
Yes it takes years to gain the skills necessary for scientific and/or >>technological
research to be done but you would not be sitting whereever you are and >>typ[ng into your computer if poeple did not no devote themselves to such >>studies. I will remind you or inform you if you did not know that when I >>was young computers were mostly human beings who devoted themselves
to mathematics.
Computers then became gigantic electrical machines then electronic
machines which materials reseach managed to reduce to much handier
sizes. You are using the results of scientific research and many >>theoretical
changes to communicate so yoiu should consider that seriously when
you come off with your half-baked ideas about science and scientists.
The establishments allowed computer tech, television tech etc., basically >entertainment, mainly to occupy people with crap and video games. Busy
people don't ask questions. Governments hate questions.
Every ten years or so they throw out most of their theories and make >>>>> up new ones. But you still trust them that only they have the 'facts'. >>>>>
Bingo. That is where Nobel prizes come
from, disproving a previously held theory
with a new one, backed by evidence.
Thin evidence that's open to interpretation. But they get their money.
And Nobel prizes are another motivation and fame generator.
We
thought the world was static, then we
discovered plate techtonics, we thought
the moon was dead, then we discoved
moonquakes, we thought gravity was just
attractive, then we discovered it can
repel things. Ain't science grand?
So mainstream scientists used to be really dumb. Now they're less dumb.
Many ancient people knew more about the stars as depicted in wall art
than many later scientists.
The ancients built non-optical observatories to study the
heavens with the unaided eye.
But they had no idea of the nature of the Sun or of other stars as far
as we know. Some figured out the Earth was more spherical than
flat but no great knowlege of the stars but the knowlege of their >>obsevation. Mostly they did observations to construct astrological
charts and to make sure of the Quarter-Days i.e. Eqinoxes and
Solstices. Which is what a lot of ancient monuments were constructed
to determine.
You don't know that. There is archaeological evidence that ancient humans >were contacted by advanced ETs ...
... who imparted advanced celestial knowledge,
including energy generation, healing tech etc.
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:100b37l$jvfs$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:1008q7s$1rnm$[email protected]:
"jojo" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
JTEM wrote:
On 5/16/25 11:15 AM, jojo wrote:
sooo... aliens are a theoretical construct??
It seems implausible that you could fail so miserably at
discerning the context. I have to assume that you suffer
from a narcissistic personality disorder, at the very
least, and are thus compelled to obfuscate.
And there's a lot of that that goes on in these groups.
To anyone else: The claim is that aliens are here, present
in our solar system, not merely existing.
okay, super. so its a claim, and not something either theoretically >>>>>possible nor probable? right?
Only if you look at mainstream media, mainstream science and
governments and nothing else.
What is "non-mainstream" science?
Creation science?
No
Christian science?
Same thing.
Metaphysical science?
You are clueless. It's any science that's not suppressed by
governments and certain celebrity scientists.
"Science is being suppressed!"
"Really? What science?"
"I can't show you because it is being suppressed!"
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:100b5fq$kdrl$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:10098uc$7vri$[email protected]:
A lot of facts some scientists declared in the past were not facts in
the first place. And a lot of present ones will not be in the future.
You make that sound like a negative.
It sounds like you're totally entranced by popular science.
Is there another kind?
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:100b3e4$k17q$1@dont-
email.me:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in messagepower
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1008r6v$5ro1$1@dont- >>>email.me:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1008g4q$8q9$1@dont- >>>email.me:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>news:100676l$3i7jt$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by >>>>>>>>>>>> government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their >>>>>>>>>>>> funding and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and >>>>>>>>>> humanity's true history, and that would lead to them losing
and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not >>>>>>>> telling the people the important details like the earth's true >>>>>history
and who/what else is in this galaxy.
OK, it is a slow news day,
let's explore that first one.
What is Earth's "true history"
that "they" are not telling us?
You will learn that when you're ready, if you live that long.
I knew you would run away.
Yes every smart person runs away from dumb jerks.
"....important details like the earth's
true history"
Still waiting.
Why do you want to know that?
Another day, another claim that
Andrew runs away from.
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >news:[email protected]...(snip)
But you're not ordinary, are you?
Thinking outside the box and questioning authority, no I guess not.
In history many who publically questioned the narrative were derided and >persecuted. And later they were heralded.
On Sun, 18 May 2025 09:34:13 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
You don't know that. There is archaeological evidence that ancient
humans were contacted by advanced ETs ...
Bullshit. Have you been binge watching "Ancient Aliens" again?
... who imparted advanced celestial knowledge,
including energy generation, healing tech etc.
Absolute bullshit.
On Sat, 17 May 2025 21:35:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...(snip)
But you're not ordinary, are you?
Thinking outside the box and questioning authority, no I guess not.
Claiming to be 'Thinking outside the box' is your way of saying 'I
don't need evidence to believe'.
In history many who publically questioned the narrative were derided and >>persecuted. And later they were heralded.
Because their ideas were eventually properly researched, verified and
peer reviewed. Your claims about space aliens haven't been through
that process, and until they have, you and your soul mates will be
treated as kooks.
On Sun, 18 May 2025 09:34:13 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
... who imparted advanced celestial knowledge,
including energy generation, healing tech etc.
Absolute bullshit.
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >news:[email protected]...
On Sat, 17 May 2025 21:35:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >>>news:[email protected]...(snip)
But you're not ordinary, are you?
Thinking outside the box and questioning authority, no I guess not.
Claiming to be 'Thinking outside the box' is your way of saying 'I
don't need evidence to believe'.
In history many who publically questioned the narrative were derided and >>>persecuted. And later they were heralded.
I think you follow your emotions and authorities more than actual evidence.
Because their ideas were eventually properly researched, verified and
peer reviewed. Your claims about space aliens haven't been through
that process, and until they have, you and your soul mates will be
treated as kooks.
Aliens can't be put through that process. ...
... It comes down to people's
experiences.
On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:52:41 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...
On Sat, 17 May 2025 21:35:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >>>>news:[email protected]...(snip)
But you're not ordinary, are you?
Thinking outside the box and questioning authority, no I guess not.
Claiming to be 'Thinking outside the box' is your way of saying 'I
don't need evidence to believe'.
In history many who publically questioned the narrative were derided and >>>>persecuted. And later they were heralded.
I think you follow your emotions and authorities more than actual
evidence.
There is no "actual evidence".
According to you, as per last year or
so, photos and videos can be faked, people can, and do, lie about
their experiences,
and the deep state keeps all the physical evidence
hidden from the public. What's left?
Because their ideas were eventually properly researched, verified and >>>peer reviewed. Your claims about space aliens haven't been through
that process, and until they have, you and your soul mates will be >>>treated as kooks.
Aliens can't be put through that process. ...
How convenient!
... It comes down to people's
experiences.
It comes down to whether one believes the anecdotal evidence or not.
You do, I don't.
On Sun, 18 May 2025 09:34:13 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
SNIP for BREVITY
... who imparted advanced celestial knowledge,
including energy generation, healing tech etc.
Absolute bullshit.
I believe it is possible that those cheap supermarket sticking plasters
were designed by aliens
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >news:[email protected]...
On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:52:41 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >>>news:[email protected]...
On Sat, 17 May 2025 21:35:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]> >>>>wrote:
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >>>>>news:[email protected]...(snip)
But you're not ordinary, are you?
Thinking outside the box and questioning authority, no I guess not.
Claiming to be 'Thinking outside the box' is your way of saying 'I >>>>don't need evidence to believe'.
In history many who publically questioned the narrative were derided and >>>>>persecuted. And later they were heralded.
I think you follow your emotions and authorities more than actual >>>evidence.
There is no "actual evidence".
Yes there is but you've never looked for any. ...
... You just listen to the public
jerks offs and CIA and believe everything they say.
According to you, as per last year or
so, photos and videos can be faked, people can, and do, lie about
their experiences,
Yeah and governments and some scientists lie frequently, but that's news for >you.
and the deep state keeps all the physical evidence
hidden from the public. What's left?
What's left is your action to find out the truth. There's decades of
research on these phenomena. ...
... you're not interested, but you still want
to mouth off and be the smart ass.
On Mon, 19 May 2025 22:06:04 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...
On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:52:41 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >>>>news:[email protected]...
On Sat, 17 May 2025 21:35:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]> >>>>>wrote:
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >>>>>>news:[email protected]...(snip)
But you're not ordinary, are you?
Thinking outside the box and questioning authority, no I guess not.
Claiming to be 'Thinking outside the box' is your way of saying 'I >>>>>don't need evidence to believe'.
In history many who publically questioned the narrative were derided >>>>>>and
persecuted. And later they were heralded.
I think you follow your emotions and authorities more than actual >>>>evidence.
There is no "actual evidence".
Here is what I predicted four posts earlier:
"I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true
history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.
But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us,
you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing it.
'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the
information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has destroyed
the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind controlled by the >elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'
And what did I get from You?
Yes there is but you've never looked for any. ...
"'You're too lazy to do your own research.' "
... You just listen to the public
jerks offs and CIA and believe everything they say.
"You only believe MSM.'"
According to you, as per last year or
so, photos and videos can be faked, people can, and do, lie about
their experiences,
Yeah and governments and some scientists lie frequently, but that's news >>for
you.
"'The deep state has destroyed the evidence.' "
and the deep state keeps all the physical evidence
hidden from the public. What's left?
What's left is your action to find out the truth. There's decades of >>research on these phenomena. ...
"'I can't list all the information I've spent decades finding.'"
... you're not interested, but you still want
to mouth off and be the smart ass.
"'Why do you even need evidence?'"
I also wrote this in the same post:
"On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?"
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >news:[email protected]...
"On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?"
On 5/19/25 6:52 AM, Malte Runz wrote:
There is no "actual evidence". According to you, as per last year or
so, photos and videos can be faked, people can, and do, lie about
their experiences, and the deep state keeps all the physical evidence
hidden from the public. What's left?
Is there evidence?
What kind of evidence?
Why hide it?
Who would have access to it?
Knowledge?
NOT looking for definitive answers but starting points.
On 5/20/25 6:21 PM, Andrew W wrote:
So the gov and military can retrieve and back engineer the advanced tech
for war weapons.
This would be inconsistent with the fact that they originated
the narrative.
Even all your terms -- UFO and UAP, for example -- you got from
the government!
Project Bluebook was not repeat NOT an effort by an assortment
of Avon Ladies. No, it was the government...
Andrew W wrote:
"JTEM" wrote in message news:100jgc3$2lbgp$[email protected]...
On 5/20/25 6:21 PM, Andrew W wrote:
So the gov and military can retrieve and back engineer the advanced
tech for war weapons.
This would be inconsistent with the fact that they originated
the narrative.
Even all your terms -- UFO and UAP, for example -- you got from
the government!
Project Bluebook was not repeat NOT an effort by an assortment
of Avon Ladies. No, it was the government...
Cuckoo
Yes. Yes you are. If you're claiming that anything quoted above
is the least bit inaccurate, you're full-on nuts.
Andrew W wrote:
"JTEM" wrote in message news:100jgc3$2lbgp$[email protected]...
On 5/20/25 6:21 PM, Andrew W wrote:
So the gov and military can retrieve and back engineer the advanced
tech for war weapons.
This would be inconsistent with the fact that they originated
the narrative.
Even all your terms -- UFO and UAP, for example -- you got from
the government!
Project Bluebook was not repeat NOT an effort by an assortment
of Avon Ladies. No, it was the government...
Cuckoo
Yes. Yes you are. If you're claiming that anything quoted above
is the least bit inaccurate, you're full-on nuts.
As I state on the "Waning Clamshell/another reset to pre-judging”
thread on alt.religion.druid, there are now 283 DNA-based aliens
in my region, which is basically the Earth Moon system but not
including deep inside the Earth and the Moon (see that thread
for an exact description).
If you happen to know one of the 283, please relay this to them.
I am also hoping they are scanning the Internet for the number 283.
As I have posted before, there will be a sudden evolution of
viruses and DNA-based species in my region.
The aliens are in four species: a two-spirit one, a four-spirit one,
a gilled (plus air-breathing) one, and a photosynthesizing one.
Homo sapiens will split into 60 species, five of which will
get about an extra 200 years lifespan and 55 of which
will get an extra 100 years. Those five will be Beothuk
species (which will be my species after evolution),
Hain, Vico, Gilled, and Photo, which the aliens, along
with of course many former homo sapiens, will go into.
On May 13, 2025, David Dalton wrote
(in article<[email protected]>):
As I state on the "Waning Clamshell/another reset to pre-judging�
thread on alt.religion.druid, there are now 283 DNA-based aliens
in my region, which is basically the Earth Moon system but not
including deep inside the Earth and the Moon (see that thread
for an exact description).
If you happen to know one of the 283, please relay this to them.
I am also hoping they are scanning the Internet for the number 283.
As I have posted before, there will be a sudden evolution of
viruses and DNA-based species in my region.
The aliens are in four species: a two-spirit one, a four-spirit one,
a gilled (plus air-breathing) one, and a photosynthesizing one.
Homo sapiens will split into 60 species, five of which will
get about an extra 200 years lifespan and 55 of which
will get an extra 100 years. Those five will be Beothuk
species (which will be my species after evolution),
Hain, Vico, Gilled, and Photo, which the aliens, along
with of course many former homo sapiens, will go into.
I now think there are 468 aliens in the Earth Moon system,
not 283.
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 21:19:59 -0230, David Dalton<[email protected]>
wrote:
On May 13, 2025, David Dalton wrote
(in article<[email protected]>)
:
As I state on the "Waning Clamshell/another reset to pre-judging” thread on alt.religion.druid, there are now 283 DNA-based aliens
in my region, which is basically the Earth Moon system but not
including deep inside the Earth and the Moon (see that thread
for an exact description).
If you happen to know one of the 283, please relay this to them.
I am also hoping they are scanning the Internet for the number 283.
As I have posted before, there will be a sudden evolution of
viruses and DNA-based species in my region.
The aliens are in four species: a two-spirit one, a four-spirit one,
a gilled (plus air-breathing) one, and a photosynthesizing one.
Homo sapiens will split into 60 species, five of which will
get about an extra 200 years lifespan and 55 of which
will get an extra 100 years. Those five will be Beothuk
species (which will be my species after evolution),
Hain, Vico, Gilled, and Photo, which the aliens, along
with of course many former homo sapiens, will go into.
I now think there are 468 aliens in the Earth Moon system,
not 283.
What new information has surfaced that made you adjust your
assessment?
On 6/25/25 7:49 PM, David Dalton wrote:
I now think there are 468 aliens in the Earth Moon system,
not 283.
What do they eat? Which has the strangest diet? Where do they
get their food from, presumably stationed so far away from
their home planets and with finite storage?
Do they all breath oxygen? What if any other gases do they breath?
Any from a water world?
Are there any for whom oxygen is poisonous?
Do any practice cannibalism?
Do any crew members ever die, how do they handle that?
Do any NOT practice sexual reproduction? Are they reproducing in
our solar system or only before/after missions?
Do any communicate with colors or odors?
How do they handle bodily waste?
Do they require entertainment and, if so, what is their
entertainment?
Do they have any religions?
Do they have art? Music?
What most repulses them about humans?
What do they admire most/find most attractive about humans?
What is their greatest fear regarding humans?
What is their greatest hope for humans?
Did any of them choose to go on a mission to our solar system?
Did any of them prefer NOT to come here but were compelled?
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