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  • Re: MT VOID, 05/17/24 -- Vol. 42, No. 46, Whole Number 2328

    From Paul Dormer@21:1/5 to Evelyn C. Leeper on Mon May 20 12:02:00 2024
    In article <v2cvjg$3ddkr$[email protected]>, [email protected] (Evelyn C. Leeper) wrote:

    Incidentally, a follow-up

    And another follow-up, just seen a plot description of a film on TV today
    in which a person is descried as a "latter-day Mary Whitehouse".

    For those that don't know, Mary Whitehouse was a teacher in the sixties
    and later who campaigned against the permissive society, but she didn't
    come to prominence until the mid-sixties, so latter-day is wrong.

    (Incidentally, the BBC did a biopic of her a few years ago, after her
    death. In one scene, she decides to start an organisation called Clean
    Up National Television. Her husband takes her aside to point out the unfortunate acronym.)

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  • From Andy Leighton@21:1/5 to Cryptoengineer on Tue May 21 09:30:13 2024
    On Tue, 21 May 2024 05:27:23 -0000 (UTC), Cryptoengineer <[email protected]> wrote:
    Paul Dormer <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <v2cvjg$3ddkr$[email protected]>, [email protected]
    (Evelyn C. Leeper) wrote:

    Incidentally, a follow-up

    And another follow-up, just seen a plot description of a film on TV today
    in which a person is descried as a "latter-day Mary Whitehouse".

    For those that don't know, Mary Whitehouse was a teacher in the sixties
    and later who campaigned against the permissive society, but she didn't
    come to prominence until the mid-sixties, so latter-day is wrong.

    (Incidentally, the BBC did a biopic of her a few years ago, after her
    death. In one scene, she decides to start an organisation called Clean
    Up National Television. Her husband takes her aside to point out the
    unfortunate acronym.)


    The sixties were 60 years ago. How long ago does something have to be
    to be able to say 'latter-day' for a new incarnation?

    Although Mary Whitehouse kept going until around 1994 (she died in 2001)

    --
    Andy Leighton => [email protected]
    "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
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  • From Paul Dormer@21:1/5 to Cryptoengineer on Tue May 21 10:58:00 2024
    In article <v2hbbr$esr8$[email protected]>, [email protected]
    (Cryptoengineer) wrote:


    The sixties were 60 years ago. How long ago does something have to be
    to be able to say 'latter-day' for a new incarnation?

    I missed out from my previous post that the film in question was from
    1956, about eight years before Mary Whitehouse's rise to prominence.

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  • From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to Cryptoengineer on Tue May 21 12:40:01 2024
    On 5/21/24 1:27 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    The sixties were 60 years ago. How long ago does something have to be
    to be able to say 'latter-day' for a new incarnation?

    Mary was sincere, and iirc fought cleanly, but she was on the wrong
    side of history.

    Related question: How long does it take to determine someone is on the
    right or wrong side of history? Trends can be reversed, and long-lasting
    ones eventually come to an end. Was Augustus Caesar on the right side of history? The Roman Empire lasted for centuries after him. Was Lenin?
    Some people who were alive during the Russian Revolution were still
    alive when the USSR ceased to exist.

    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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