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    From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 24 11:08:51 2023
    Mastodon isn't one thing. It's many sites with different policies. Some
    are very open, some highly restricted, many in between. I came across fandom.ink because Pemmi-Con has its feed there. Wondering what other interesting accounts might be there, I looked around the site a bit and
    came to its rules.

    https://fandom.ink/about

    Most of the rules are a reasonable attempt to keep the site from turning
    into a battleground for insults or worse. But there's this rule in the
    "never tolerated" list:

    expressing or defending derogatory, harmful,
    and/or contemptuous views of marginalized
    persons or groups, including in the context
    of playing "devil's advocate" ("it's not
    really racist because...")

    That is to say, you may not defend someone against accusations under
    those categories. If someone is falsely accused of racism, you may not demonstrate why the accusation is spurious.

    Some people are marginalized because they deserve to be. If the rule is consistently applied, you can't say "Nazis suck" or defend someone who does.

    Joe McCarthy lives on.

    In separate news, I noticed this morning that I can't post or comment on /r/atheism in Reddit, though my status on other subreddits is
    unaffected. I haven't seen an explanation, but my best guess is that I
    pointed out one time too many that religious people have First Amendment
    rights too.


    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Peter Trei@21:1/5 to Gary McGath on Sun Apr 30 16:13:47 2023
    On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:08:53 AM UTC-4, Gary McGath wrote:.

    In separate news, I noticed this morning that I can't post or comment on /r/atheism in Reddit, though my status on other subreddits is
    unaffected. I haven't seen an explanation, but my best guess is that I pointed out one time too many that religious people have First Amendment rights too.

    Just as mastodon isn't centralized, Reddit subs are 'owned' by small groups
    of 'mods'. Mods aren't Reddit employees; they are the subs creators, and
    people they delegate modhood to.

    They have arbitrary powers to block people and topics, and very little accountability. For example, I'm robo-banned from a couple groups
    because I commented in another sub that those subs opposed. That
    I was posting criticism instead of support didn't matter.

    Most subs are fine, and the ease of creating new subs means that blocks
    can't really suppress a viewpoint.

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  • From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to Peter Trei on Mon May 1 09:18:23 2023
    On 4/30/23 7:13 PM, Peter Trei wrote:
    On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:08:53 AM UTC-4, Gary McGath wrote:.


    Just as mastodon isn't centralized, Reddit subs are 'owned' by small groups of 'mods'. Mods aren't Reddit employees; they are the subs creators, and people they delegate modhood to.

    They have arbitrary powers to block people and topics, and very little accountability. For example, I'm robo-banned from a couple groups
    because I commented in another sub that those subs opposed. That
    I was posting criticism instead of support didn't matter.

    Most subs are fine, and the ease of creating new subs means that blocks
    can't really suppress a viewpoint.

    I've run into some wild ones. One banned all posting of links to
    articles on the Web; they called it "sharing violation." Another removed
    a post where I linked to an article defending Beethoven against a silly accusation, because the mods didn't like the website where the article
    was posted. This is the first time that I've found myself unable to post
    to a subreddit at all.

    My favorite subreddit currently is /r/Mozart, a very small, friendly group.

    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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