On 2025-05-09 01:04:12 +0000, Crash said:

It seems that NIWA/Met Service have been caught out:

https://centrist.nz/ian-wishart-science-minister-reti-niwa-needs-an-intervention/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=9-5-2025&_kx=uBMjkMr2C8pjfBkYE2tMrZxpVu7AAzZhqncqpA4naio.VYfxNg

I've never seen *ANY* weather forecast that is ever actually accurate.
It's a near-useless waste of tax-payer and business money.

Supposedly Auckland was meant to have "heavy rain" and "thunderstorms"
today ... so far nothing but drizzle, and even that has stopped from
time to time. Of course, given Auckland's topography, the weather can
be completely different in neighbouring areas. I've driven along one
long-ish road and had sun at one end and rain at the other. I've also
been walking the dog along one road and seen rain on the next parallel
road.

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It seems that NIWA/Met Service have been caught out:

https://centrist.nz/ian-wishart-science-minister-reti-niwa-needs-an-intervention/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=9-5-2025&_kx=uBMjkMr2C8pjfBkYE2tMrZxpVu7AAzZhqncqpA4naio.VYfxNg


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On Fri, 9 May 2025 13:10:34 +1200, It's A Me <[email protected]>
wrote:

On 2025-05-09 01:04:12 +0000, Crash said:

It seems that NIWA/Met Service have been caught out:

https://centrist.nz/ian-wishart-science-minister-reti-niwa-needs-an-intervention/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=9-5-2025&_kx=uBMjkMr2C8pjfBkYE2tMrZxpVu7AAzZhqncqpA4naio.VYfxNg

I've never seen *ANY* weather forecast that is ever actually accurate.
It's a near-useless waste of tax-payer and business money.

Supposedly Auckland was meant to have "heavy rain" and "thunderstorms"
today ... so far nothing but drizzle, and even that has stopped from
time to time. Of course, given Auckland's topography, the weather can
be completely different in neighbouring areas. I've driven along one
long-ish road and had sun at one end and rain at the other. I've also
been walking the dog along one road and seen rain on the next parallel
road.

That was not the point of the article - it was about inaccurate
historical whether record claims being used to justify evidence of
climate change.

So the weather where you are is better than forecast. That is OK -
but better than a weather-bomb never forecast. These days, weather
forecasting is about comparing recent readings from various locations
and forecasting what will happen based on records for the same
locations going back 40 years or more - all on a computer. This
should be reasonably accurate but nothing can ever be 100% correct
over even 12 hours.


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Crash <[email protected]d> wrote:

On Fri, 9 May 2025 13:10:34 +1200, It's A Me <[email protected]>
wrote:

On 2025-05-09 01:04:12 +0000, Crash said:

It seems that NIWA/Met Service have been caught out:

https://centrist.nz/ian-wishart-science-minister-reti-niwa-needs-an-intervention/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=9-5-2025&_kx=uBMjkMr2C8pjfBkYE2tMrZxpVu7AAzZhqncqpA4naio.VYfxNg

I've never seen *ANY* weather forecast that is ever actually accurate.
It's a near-useless waste of tax-payer and business money.

Supposedly Auckland was meant to have "heavy rain" and "thunderstorms" >>today ... so far nothing but drizzle, and even that has stopped from
time to time. Of course, given Auckland's topography, the weather can
be completely different in neighbouring areas. I've driven along one >>long-ish road and had sun at one end and rain at the other. I've also
been walking the dog along one road and seen rain on the next parallel >>road.

That was not the point of the article - it was about inaccurate
historical whether record claims being used to justify evidence of
climate change.

So the weather where you are is better than forecast. That is OK -
but better than a weather-bomb never forecast. These days, weather >forecasting is about comparing recent readings from various locations
and forecasting what will happen based on records for the same
locations going back 40 years or more - all on a computer. This
should be reasonably accurate but nothing can ever be 100% correct
over even 12 hours.

The article mirrors complaints from Europe and in particular the UK where temperatures are often reported as being record highs when in fact they are nothing of the sort.
A cynic might wonder who profits form such misinformation.

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On 2025-05-09 01:39:16 +0000, Crash said:

On Fri, 9 May 2025 13:10:34 +1200, It's A Me <[email protected]>
wrote:

On 2025-05-09 01:04:12 +0000, Crash said:

It seems that NIWA/Met Service have been caught out:

https://centrist.nz/ian-wishart-science-minister-reti-niwa-needs-an-intervention/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=9-5-2025&_kx=uBMjkMr2C8pjfBkYE2tMrZxpVu7AAzZhqncqpA4naio.VYfxNg

I've never seen *ANY* weather forecast that is ever actually accurate.
It's a near-useless waste of tax-payer and business money.

Supposedly Auckland was meant to have "heavy rain" and "thunderstorms"
today ... so far nothing but drizzle, and even that has stopped from
time to time. Of course, given Auckland's topography, the weather can
be completely different in neighbouring areas. I've driven along one
long-ish road and had sun at one end and rain at the other. I've also
been walking the dog along one road and seen rain on the next parallel
road.

That was not the point of the article - it was about inaccurate
historical whether record claims being used to justify evidence of
climate change.

So the weather where you are is better than forecast. That is OK -
but better than a weather-bomb never forecast. These days, weather forecasting is about comparing recent readings from various locations
and forecasting what will happen based on records for the same
locations going back 40 years or more - all on a computer. This
should be reasonably accurate but nothing can ever be 100% correct
over even 12 hours.

Nothing is ever accurate, especially when it relies on human beings
doing the data entry.

Sky TV's on-screen guide is full of issues (the UKTV program Casualty
has had the same blurb for every weekly episode since Christmas, and
it's a blurb from about two season before).

My own NHI health database information has an address that is about 30
years out of date and has a mixed up date of birth. (Nobody can change
it because I'm not registered with a GP.)

On top of that, weather/climate is only recorded in certain places
where they have place the measuring devices. As I posted above, it can
be raining on one road, but not another, so depending on which road the
rain measuring device is on will affect the record. Similarly with the temperature, wind, etc. measuring devices.

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On 2025-05-09 13:10:34 +1200, It's A Me wrote:

I've never seen *ANY* weather forecast that is ever actually accurate.
It's a near-useless waste of tax-payer and business money.

Supposedly Auckland was meant to have "heavy rain" and "thunderstorms"
today ... so far nothing but drizzle, and even that has stopped from
time to time.

Auckland got heavy downpours today. A number of flights were delayed or cancelled.

Link: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/live-weather-thunderstorms-heavy-downpours-tipped-for-auckland-and-north-island-during-rush-hour-commute/7EI3CGOGHZCM3FSN764BWR2X7E/

A real example of a useless forecast would be It's A Me trying to
forecast the rest of today's Auckland weather at 13:10.

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On 2025-05-09 10:54:14 +0000, LOL said:

On 2025-05-09 13:10:34 +1200, It's A Me wrote:

I've never seen *ANY* weather forecast that is ever actually accurate.
It's a near-useless waste of tax-payer and business money.

Supposedly Auckland was meant to have "heavy rain" and "thunderstorms"
today ... so far nothing but drizzle, and even that has stopped from
time to time.

Auckland got heavy downpours today. A number of flights were delayed or cancelled.

Link: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/live-weather-thunderstorms-heavy-downpours-tipped-for-auckland-and-north-island-during-rush-hour-commute/7EI3CGOGHZCM3FSN764BWR2X7E/

Some parts of Auckland got heavy rain, others didn't.

"Auckland" covers a vast area and a lot of topology means one area can
have different weather to a neighbouring area. Because of that, any
weather forecast for "Auckland" will always be virtually useless.

A real example of a useless forecast would be It's A Me trying to
forecast the rest of today's Auckland weather at 13:10.

I wasn't giving a forecast at all - I specifically said "so far". We
eventually did get heavy rain at around 5:30pm (enough to cause a brief
hiccup in the Sky TV signal), but it only lasted about 10 minutes.

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On Fri, 9 May 2025 22:54:14 +1200, LOL <[email protected]d> wrote:

On 2025-05-09 13:10:34 +1200, It's A Me wrote:

I've never seen *ANY* weather forecast that is ever actually accurate.
It's a near-useless waste of tax-payer and business money.

Supposedly Auckland was meant to have "heavy rain" and "thunderstorms"
today ... so far nothing but drizzle, and even that has stopped from
time to time.

Auckland got heavy downpours today. A number of flights were delayed or >cancelled.

Link: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/live-weather-thunderstorms-heavy-downpours-tipped-for-auckland-and-north-island-during-rush-hour-commute/7EI3CGOGHZCM3FSN764BWR2X7E/

A real example of a useless forecast would be It's A Me trying to
forecast the rest of today's Auckland weather at 13:10.

This is not a thread about forecasting. It is a thread about
accurately reporting the historical reporting of a previous days
weather stats as 'the worst since records began' when it is not.


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On 2025-05-10 10:35:07 +1200, Crash wrote:

This is not a thread about forecasting. It is a thread about
accurately reporting the historical reporting of a previous days
weather stats as 'the worst since records began' when it is not.

Crash McBash
Thread drift has always been part of Usenet. I have not misunderstood
your original post. My reply was to It's A Me. To control what is
posted, use a social media platform which operates that way.

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