So the police stopped this young boy and took his T-shirt with the
logo of his boxing club on it because it looks too much like a Black
Power gang patch <https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/12/28/boxing-nz-defends-club-after-police-confiscate-boys-t-shirt/>.

Is this the kind of consequence that NatActIrst had in mind when they
pushed through the gang-patch ban?

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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

So the police stopped this young boy and took his T-shirt with the
logo of his boxing club on it because it looks too much like a Black
Power gang patch ><https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/12/28/boxing-nz-defends-club-after-police-confiscate-boys-t-shirt/>.

Is this the kind of consequence that NatActIrst had in mind when they
pushed through the gang-patch ban?

All new legislation can have unintended consequences. This will, obviously, be reviewed in the usual way.
Meanwhile extreme and biased people like you will seek to make childish political capital out of it. Well, you failed!

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On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 07:19:32 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<[email protected]> wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

So the police stopped this young boy and took his T-shirt with the
logo of his boxing club on it because it looks too much like a Black
Power gang patch >><https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/12/28/boxing-nz-defends-club-after-police-confiscate-boys-t-shirt/>.

Is this the kind of consequence that NatActIrst had in mind when they >>pushed through the gang-patch ban?

All new legislation can have unintended consequences. This will, obviously, be >reviewed in the usual way.
Meanwhile extreme and biased people like you will seek to make childish >political capital out of it. Well, you failed!

Good legislation would have not been rushed through without proper
review - although it did have some flaws pointed out as it was rushed
through. Your call Tony as to whether this legislation prompted the
increase in gang numbers under this Act1stNat government - gangs
usually increase under right wing governments, but they also increased
under the previous Labour governments - largely due to Australia
sending us so many Aussie Gang members . . . So yes some of the
effects may have been unintended, but they were predicted by the many
people that know more about getting gang numbers down than the new
government - all they were looking for was a headline . . . The
question now is whether the government will have any sort of
meaningful review - they know they got it wrong but will try to avoid
the public being told that again . . .

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Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:

On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 07:19:32 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<[email protected]> wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

So the police stopped this young boy and took his T-shirt with the
logo of his boxing club on it because it looks too much like a Black >>>Power gang patch >>><https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/12/28/boxing-nz-defends-club-after-police-confiscate-boys-t-shirt/>.

Is this the kind of consequence that NatActIrst had in mind when they >>>pushed through the gang-patch ban?

All new legislation can have unintended consequences. This will, obviously, >>be
reviewed in the usual way.
Meanwhile extreme and biased people like you will seek to make childish >>political capital out of it. Well, you failed!

Good legislation would have not been rushed through without proper
review - although it did have some flaws pointed out as it was rushed >through. Your call Tony as to whether this legislation prompted the
increase in gang numbers under this Act1stNat government - gangs
usually increase under right wing governments, but they also increased
under the previous Labour governments - largely due to Australia
sending us so many Aussie Gang members . . . So yes some of the
effects may have been unintended, but they were predicted by the many
people that know more about getting gang numbers down than the new
government - all they were looking for was a headline . . . The
question now is whether the government will have any sort of
meaningful review - they know they got it wrong but will try to avoid
the public being told that again . . .

Good legislative processes would have meant that the last goivernment in 2020 would not have rushed through a law that also had a bad result. I speak of repealing section 70a of New Zealand�s Social Security Act which some researchers claim made fathers redundant. Look it up before you cast misdirected stones.
Every government does this.
The rest of your post is predictable rthetoric of course.
My post was non-political, in response to a childishly political post and your response was no less childish.

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On 2024-12-28, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

So the police stopped this young boy and took his T-shirt with the
logo of his boxing club on it because it looks too much like a Black
Power gang patch
<https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/12/28/boxing-nz-defends-club-after-police-confiscate-boys-t-shirt/>.

Is this the kind of consequence that NatActIrst had in mind when they
pushed through the gang-patch ban?

Probably not.

It is new leglislation and to me it looks like a poor interruption of the
law. This was not in the spirit of the law.

A boxing club is hardly a gang. Maybe the clinched fist is not the best
symbol to have in the current day climate.

As the club has pointed out the boxing club keeps the youth of the street
and gives them something legal to do.

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