• Poor Willie: Does not know the difference between a Judge and a Prosecu

    From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 28 08:46:21 2024
    Almost farcical:

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/race-based-moral-panic-is-taking-new-zealand-backwards-willie-jackson/SIHPVCZMKBDGLP7IWF2YGSY3NI/

    How can he not realise that Prosecution Guidelines are for
    Prosecutors, not Judges?. Is the Herald hell-bent in publishing such ill-informed drivel?


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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 28 14:29:05 2024
    On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 08:46:21 +1300, Crash <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    Almost farcical:

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/race-based-moral-panic-is-taking-new-zealand-backwards-willie-jackson/SIHPVCZMKBDGLP7IWF2YGSY3NI/

    How can he not realise that Prosecution Guidelines are for
    Prosecutors, not Judges?. Is the Herald hell-bent in publishing such >ill-informed drivel?
    from the article:
    "As the Herald�s own Audrey Young states in her column,
    Solicitor-General Una Jagose is no slouch.

    Jagose�s prosecution guidelines were not new! These guidelines had
    been in place to ensure that when a judge passes sentence, they have
    the flexibility and independence to pass judgments that ensure mercy
    and rehabilitation are at the heart of our justice system."

    So prosecution guildelines are for judges . . .

    Of course the Herald publishes ill-informed drivel (usually behind a
    paywall so that only the ""right"" people see it), but this article
    does not appear to be one of them.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 28 15:17:21 2024
    On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 14:29:05 +1300, Rich80105 <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 08:46:21 +1300, Crash <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    Almost farcical:
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/race-based-moral-panic-is-taking-new-zealand-backwards-willie-jackson/SIHPVCZMKBDGLP7IWF2YGSY3NI/

    How can he not realise that Prosecution Guidelines are for
    Prosecutors, not Judges?. Is the Herald hell-bent in publishing such >>ill-informed drivel?
    from the article:
    "As the Herald�s own Audrey Young states in her column,
    Solicitor-General Una Jagose is no slouch.

    Jagose�s prosecution guidelines were not new!

    Yes they were. Now withdrawn on October 18:

    https://www.crownlaw.govt.nz/assets/Uploads/Media-Statements/Crown-Law-Media-Statement-18-October-248205178.3.pdf

    These guidelines had
    been in place to ensure that when a judge passes sentence, they have
    the flexibility and independence to pass judgments that ensure mercy
    and rehabilitation are at the heart of our justice system."

    So prosecution guildelines are for judges . . .

    What? That's what Willie said and it is of course nonsense. It may
    be a surprise to you Rich (as it is with Willie Jackson) that
    Prosecution Guidelines are for Prosecutors, not Judges. Jagose is not
    a Judge.

    Of course the Herald publishes ill-informed drivel (usually behind a
    paywall so that only the ""right"" people see it), but this article
    does not appear to be one of them.

    This was not ill-informed, it is a lie.


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