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    From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 4 10:33:41 2024
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/03/jd-vance-anti-democracy-movement-leader

    And New Zealand is connected through Peter Thiel

    Do we have the best government the far right could buy?

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Oct 3 22:01:17 2024
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote: >https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/03/jd-vance-anti-democracy-movement-leader

    And New Zealand is connected through Peter Thiel

    Do we have the best government the far right could buy?
    No we do not.
    The government is nowhere near far right and your article has zero relevance to this country. Wow are you desperate or are you really desperate?

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Tony on Fri Oct 4 01:49:13 2024
    On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 22:01:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Do we have the best government the far right could buy?

    No we do not.

    Isn’t it spending enough?

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri Oct 4 03:11:35 2024
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 22:01:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Do we have the best government the far right could buy?

    No we do not.

    Isn’t it spending enough?
    Isn't what spending enough what?
    Do try cogency for once.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Tony on Fri Oct 4 03:49:16 2024
    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 03:11:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 22:01:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Do we have the best government the far right could buy?

    No we do not.

    Isn’t it spending enough?

    You fell for that, didn’t you.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri Oct 4 05:27:47 2024
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 03:11:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 22:01:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Do we have the best government the far right could buy?

    No we do not.

    Isn’t it spending enough?

    You fell for that, didn’t you.
    Are you drunk? Already? I have rarely witnessed anybody who makes as little sense as you do.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Tony on Fri Oct 4 05:30:43 2024
    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 05:27:47 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 03:11:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 22:01:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Do we have the best government the far right could buy?

    No we do not.

    Isn’t it spending enough?

    You fell for that, didn’t you.

    It was a trick question, which you took as a yes/no question ... exactly
    as you were meant to.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri Oct 4 06:09:43 2024
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 05:27:47 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 03:11:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 22:01:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Do we have the best government the far right could buy?

    No we do not.

    Isn’t it spending enough?

    You fell for that, didn’t you.

    It was a trick question, which you took as a yes/no question ... exactly
    as you were meant to.
    You may have tricked yourself, I suspect that you do that very often. But nobody else was fooled.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Tony on Fri Oct 4 06:30:14 2024
    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 06:09:43 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 05:27:47 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 03:11:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 22:01:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Do we have the best government the far right could buy?

    No we do not.

    Isn’t it spending enough?

    You fell for that, didn’t you.

    It was a trick question, which you took as a yes/no question ... exactly
    as you were meant to.

    It was framed as a question that presupposed that the far right has indeed bought the present Government. Which you were not supposed to admit, you
    silly person.

    But you did.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Tony on Fri Oct 4 07:44:31 2024
    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 07:22:44 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 06:09:43 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 05:27:47 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 03:11:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 22:01:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Do we have the best government the far right could buy?

    No we do not.

    Isn’t it spending enough?

    You fell for that, didn’t you.

    It was a trick question, which you took as a yes/no question ... >>>>exactly as you were meant to.

    It was framed as a question that presupposed that the far right has
    indeed bought the present Government. Which you were not supposed to
    admit, you silly person.

    But you did.

    I admitted nothing ...

    Hint: the question was not “Do we have a Government bought by the far right?”.

    Maybe you thought it was ... read it again.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri Oct 4 07:22:44 2024
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 06:09:43 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 05:27:47 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 03:11:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 22:01:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Do we have the best government the far right could buy?

    No we do not.

    Isn’t it spending enough?

    You fell for that, didn’t you.

    It was a trick question, which you took as a yes/no question ... exactly >>>as you were meant to.

    It was framed as a question that presupposed that the far right has indeed >bought the present Government. Which you were not supposed to admit, you >silly person.

    But you did.
    I admitted nothing and there is no far right influence in the current government. Anybody who thinks otherwise is deluded.
    How very sad that after all these years you are still in need of help. get some before it is too late.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri Oct 4 08:05:59 2024
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 07:22:44 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 06:09:43 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 05:27:47 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 03:11:35 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 22:01:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Do we have the best government the far right could buy?

    No we do not.

    Isn’t it spending enough?

    You fell for that, didn’t you.

    It was a trick question, which you took as a yes/no question ... >>>>>exactly as you were meant to.

    It was framed as a question that presupposed that the far right has >>>indeed bought the present Government. Which you were not supposed to >>>admit, you silly person.

    But you did.

    I admitted nothing ...

    Hint: the question was not “Do we have a Government bought by the far >right?”.

    Maybe you thought it was ... read it again.
    You are just getting sillier by the minute.
    The years have not been kind to you Lawrence, get some help.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Oct 4 23:00:14 2024
    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 01:49:13 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 22:01:17 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Do we have the best government the far right could buy?

    No we do not.

    Isn�t it spending enough?

    Certainly they are sending signals - see: https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2024/10/luxon-just-became-poster-boy-for-taxing.html

    That is of course a relatively minor loss of income to the government,
    but it is one sale out of thousands - presumably intended to send a
    message to other landlords, and to the rest of us that the wealthy
    will be rewarded by this government.

    Then there is this: https://norightturn.blogspot.com/2024/10/luxon-just-became-poster-boy-for-taxing.html

    Which is yet another message that donating to a political campaign for
    a party of the "Right" can be a very very good investment . . .

    But a more convincing argument about _lack_ of spending is on health.
    See : https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/thedetail/529804/fears-of-privatisation-by-stealth-in-an-overwhelmed-healthcare-system

    and https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(24)00003-3/fulltext

    Privatisation is the aim - with one of the most successful being
    electricity, which has delivered returns to shareholders of much more
    than profits by keeping electricity prices high. Do we really want
    hospitals to work that way?

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Tony on Sat Oct 5 23:02:55 2024
    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 08:05:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    [ad-hominem rhubarb]

    Pro Internet tip: if you have to start resorting to playing the person,
    not the ball, then that’s an admission that you have run out of logical arguments and can only dissemble and deflect, and can no longer discuss.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Sat Oct 5 23:39:20 2024
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 08:05:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    [ad-hominem rhubarb]

    Pro Internet tip: if you have to start resorting to playing the person,
    not the ball, then that’s an admission that you have run out of logical >arguments and can only dissemble and deflect, and can no longer discuss.
    In which case, why do you do it so much?
    And secondly, why do you remove the context so often, cowardice or low IQ?

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Oct 6 22:55:28 2024
    On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 23:39:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 08:05:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    [ad-hominem rhubarb]

    Pro Internet tip: if you have to start resorting to playing the person,
    not the ball, then that’s an admission that you have run out of logical >>arguments and can only dissemble and deflect, and can no longer discuss.
    In which case, why do you do it so much?
    So there you go again . . .and again . . .

    And secondly, why do you remove the context so often, cowardice or low IQ? Deleting posts you cannot respond to is your specialty, Tony - you
    most often claim they are "off-topic" as an excuse - no other poster
    to nz.general removes posts as often as you do, most often when you
    cannot form an adequate response. So there you go again . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Oct 6 18:50:13 2024
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 23:39:20 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 08:05:59 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:

    [ad-hominem rhubarb]

    Pro Internet tip: if you have to start resorting to playing the person, >>>not the ball, then that’s an admission that you have run out of logical >>>arguments and can only dissemble and deflect, and can no longer discuss. >>In which case, why do you do it so much?
    So there you go again . . .and again . . .
    As do you - with your petty insults and childish pouting rhetoric.

    And secondly, why do you remove the context so often, cowardice or low IQ? >Deleting posts you cannot respond to is your specialty, Tony - you
    most often claim they are "off-topic" as an excuse - no other poster
    to nz.general removes posts as often as you do, most often when you
    cannot form an adequate response. So there you go again . . .
    No that is a bunch of lies and see above. You are a baby in an adult world, fighting to be heard but destined to fail.

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