Who am I talking about? Shane Jones, of course.Presumably you have a reference, that would make a pleasant change. So do you?
Both Jones and Winston Peters have a reputation for not mincing words.
The difference is, Jones knows how to treat the media with respect.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:assertion if you would prefer. I think both Jones and Peters can both
Who am I talking about? Shane Jones, of course.
Both Jones and Winston Peters have a reputation for not mincing words.
The difference is, Jones knows how to treat the media with respect. >Presumably you have a reference, that would make a pleasant change. So do you? Why would he need a reference - he is making a statement - an
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 07:30:26 -0000 (UTC), TonyOff topic political crap.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:Why would he need a reference - he is making a statement - an
Who am I talking about? Shane Jones, of course.
Both Jones and Winston Peters have a reputation for not mincing words.
The difference is, Jones knows how to treat the media with respect. >>Presumably you have a reference, that would make a pleasant change. So do you?
assertion if you would prefer. I think both Jones and Peters can both
treat the media with respect and not mince words - an example for
Peters is his response to questions about events in Lebanon earlier
today. Both can however also make other statements that at times may
appear to be deliberately unreasoned - Christopher Luxon can also at
times treat the media with respect, but he can also rival Jones and
Peters and some of his Ministers in almost deliberately being a Voice
of Unreason . . .
Those are of course unsupported personal opinions - perhaps not theThere is "of course" absolutely nothing wrong with personal opinions wheher substantiated or not, if it was otherwise you would never post here.
best way to encourage rational posts in response on nz.general . . .
Both Jones and Winston Peters have a reputation for not mincing words.
Who am I talking about? Shane Jones, of course.
Both Jones and Winston Peters have a reputation for not mincing words.
The difference is, Jones knows how to treat the media with respect.
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 06:38:36 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:Brilliant. I assume you posted this because you agree with Peters. I certainly do.
Well, Winston has taken things to a new, world-class level now, hushing
the other delegates at the United Nations, no less.
At a Security Council meeting, even
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/winston-peters-stops-united-nations-speech-calls-for-room-to-be-quiet/YU2TF5EF2VET7AVZBYCBXT3CA4/>
Well, Winston has taken things to a new, world-class level now, hushing
the other delegates at the United Nations, no less.
The media does not deserve any respect.
They are liars, deceivers and manipulators.
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 06:38:36 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:
Well, Winston has taken things to a new, world-class level now, hushing
the other delegates at the United Nations, no less.
At a Security Council meeting, even
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/winston-peters-stops-united-nations-speech-calls-for-room-to-be-quiet/YU2TF5EF2VET7AVZBYCBXT3CA4/>
The difference is, Jones knows how to treat the media with respect.
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 07:05:58 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:You are a defamer, taken lessons from Rich have you? You just love to show off your leftie bias and hatred of anything honest.
The difference is, Jones knows how to treat the media with respect.
Hmm, I didn’t know he had ties to the tobacco industry ><https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/511054/nz-first-minister-shane-jones-says-he-doesn-t-know-or-care-about-tobacco-industry-transparency-rules>.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 07:05:58 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:You are a defamer, taken lessons from Rich have you? You just love to show off >your leftie bias and hatred of anything honest.
The difference is, Jones knows how to treat the media with respect.
Hmm, I didn’t know he had ties to the tobacco industry >><https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/511054/nz-first-minister-shane-jones-says-he-doesn-t-know-or-care-about-tobacco-industry-transparency-rules>.
No - I don't support Jones or any party but unlike you I prefer truth.
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 06:28:48 +1200, BR wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 20:30:16 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[email protected]d> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 04:50:02 +1200, BR wrote:
The media does not deserve any respect.
They are liars, deceivers and manipulators.
Where did you hear that?
Hear it? I've seen it.
Where did you �see� that?
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 03:20:01 -0000 (UTC), TonyAre you his sister?
<[email protected]> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 07:05:58 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:You are a defamer, taken lessons from Rich have you? You just love to show >>off
The difference is, Jones knows how to treat the media with respect.
Hmm, I didn’t know he had ties to the tobacco industry >>><https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/511054/nz-first-minister-shane-jones-says-he-doesn-t-know-or-care-about-tobacco-industry-transparency-rules>.
your leftie bias and hatred of anything honest.
No - I don't support Jones or any party but unlike you I prefer truth.
The article makes it clear that he has contacts with the tobacco
industry - and that article contains a link to this one which
reinforces the relationship with a particular tobacco lobbyist >https://www.thepost.co.nz/politics/350158370/tobacco-lobbyist-guest-ministers-swearing-ceremony
Shane Jones has acknowledged the engagement, but does not care that
New Zealand is a signatory to a convention from the World Health
Organisation dating back to November 2008 - the link in the article
goes to here: >https://fctc.who.int/publications/m/item/guidelines-for-implementation-of-article-5.3
So where is the defamation that you refer to, Tony?
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 07:20:29 -0000 (UTC), TonyNot at all. it is just the way you suck up to him. A fellow traveller.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:That's lame, even for you Tony.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 03:20:01 -0000 (UTC), TonyAre you his sister?
<[email protected]> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 07:05:58 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:You are a defamer, taken lessons from Rich have you? You just love to show >>>>off
The difference is, Jones knows how to treat the media with respect. >>>>>Hmm, I didn’t know he had ties to the tobacco industry >>>>><https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/511054/nz-first-minister-shane-jones-says-he-doesn-t-know-or-care-about-tobacco-industry-transparency-rules>.
your leftie bias and hatred of anything honest.
No - I don't support Jones or any party but unlike you I prefer truth. >>>What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
The article makes it clear that he has contacts with the tobacco
industry - and that article contains a link to this one which
reinforces the relationship with a particular tobacco lobbyist >>>https://www.thepost.co.nz/politics/350158370/tobacco-lobbyist-guest-ministers-swearing-ceremony
Shane Jones has acknowledged the engagement, but does not care that
New Zealand is a signatory to a convention from the World Health >>>Organisation dating back to November 2008 - the link in the article
goes to here: >>>https://fctc.who.int/publications/m/item/guidelines-for-implementation-of-article-5.3
So where is the defamation that you refer to, Tony?
What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony? Where isHe has defamed people several times since he started spewing Marxistt nonsense here. If you have not noticed that then it is probably because you did not want to. But, hey, that is you is it not?
the defamation you refer to?
Did Shane Jones give the ''independent advice" that giving a tax cutI don't know, did he?
of over $200 million to a tobacco company was a good idea?
Did that loss of tax revenue cause the stopping of the DunedinAtre you that stupid? Oops, yes you are. Your sarcastic crap is legendary.
hospital build?
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:That's lame, even for you Tony.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 03:20:01 -0000 (UTC), TonyAre you his sister?
<[email protected]> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 07:05:58 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:You are a defamer, taken lessons from Rich have you? You just love to show >>>off
The difference is, Jones knows how to treat the media with respect.
Hmm, I didn’t know he had ties to the tobacco industry >>>><https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/511054/nz-first-minister-shane-jones-says-he-doesn-t-know-or-care-about-tobacco-industry-transparency-rules>.
your leftie bias and hatred of anything honest.
No - I don't support Jones or any party but unlike you I prefer truth. >>What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
The article makes it clear that he has contacts with the tobacco
industry - and that article contains a link to this one which
reinforces the relationship with a particular tobacco lobbyist >>https://www.thepost.co.nz/politics/350158370/tobacco-lobbyist-guest-ministers-swearing-ceremony
Shane Jones has acknowledged the engagement, but does not care that
New Zealand is a signatory to a convention from the World Health >>Organisation dating back to November 2008 - the link in the article
goes to here: >>https://fctc.who.int/publications/m/item/guidelines-for-implementation-of-article-5.3
So where is the defamation that you refer to, Tony?
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 07:05:58 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:
The difference is, Jones knows how to treat the media with respect.
Hmm, I didn�t know he had ties to the tobacco industry ><https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/511054/nz-first-minister-shane-jones-says-he-doesn-t-know-or-care-about-tobacco-industry-transparency-rules>.
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 07:20:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 03:20:01 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><[email protected]> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 07:05:58 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:You are a defamer, taken lessons from Rich have you? You just love to show >>>>>off
The difference is, Jones knows how to treat the media with respect. >>>>>>Hmm, I didn’t know he had ties to the tobacco industry >>>>>><https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/511054/nz-first-minister-shane-jones-says-he-doesn-t-know-or-care-about-tobacco-industry-transparency-rules>.
your leftie bias and hatred of anything honest.
No - I don't support Jones or any party but unlike you I prefer truth. >>>>What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
Which does not of course answer the question - Where is the defamationNot at all. it is just the way you suck up to him. A fellow traveller.That's lame, even for you Tony.Are you his sister?
The article makes it clear that he has contacts with the tobacco >>>>industry - and that article contains a link to this one which >>>>reinforces the relationship with a particular tobacco lobbyist >>>>https://www.thepost.co.nz/politics/350158370/tobacco-lobbyist-guest-ministers-swearing-ceremony
Shane Jones has acknowledged the engagement, but does not care that
New Zealand is a signatory to a convention from the World Health >>>>Organisation dating back to November 2008 - the link in the article >>>>goes to here: >>>>https://fctc.who.int/publications/m/item/guidelines-for-implementation-of-article-5.3
So where is the defamation that you refer to, Tony?
So you cannot identify any defamation by Lawrence in this thread. As IHe has defamed people several times since he started spewing Marxistt nonsense >here. If you have not noticed that then it is probably because you did not want
What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony? Where is
the defamation you refer to?
to. But, hey, that is you is it not?
There seems to be a lot that you don't know, but I am sure that theDid Shane Jones give the ''independent advice" that giving a tax cutI don't know, did he?
of over $200 million to a tobacco company was a good idea?
Atre you that stupid? Oops, yes you are. Your sarcastic crap is legendary. Aaah - avoidance of the question - telling, don't you agree, Tony?
Did that loss of tax revenue cause the stopping of the Dunedin
hospital build?
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 20:58:53 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou just need to review his many posts that show his bias against anybody and anything not l;eft wing supportive. Just like you.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 07:20:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 03:20:01 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 07:05:58 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:You are a defamer, taken lessons from Rich have you? You just love to >>>>>>show
The difference is, Jones knows how to treat the media with respect. >>>>>>>Hmm, I didn’t know he had ties to the tobacco industry >>>>>>><https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/511054/nz-first-minister-shane-jones-says-he-doesn-t-know-or-care-about-tobacco-industry-transparency-rules>.
off
your leftie bias and hatred of anything honest.
No - I don't support Jones or any party but unlike you I prefer truth. >>>>>What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
See aboveWhich does not of course answer the question - Where is the defamationNot at all. it is just the way you suck up to him. A fellow traveller.That's lame, even for you Tony.Are you his sister?
The article makes it clear that he has contacts with the tobacco >>>>>industry - and that article contains a link to this one which >>>>>reinforces the relationship with a particular tobacco lobbyist >>>>>https://www.thepost.co.nz/politics/350158370/tobacco-lobbyist-guest-ministers-swearing-ceremony
Shane Jones has acknowledged the engagement, but does not care that >>>>>New Zealand is a signatory to a convention from the World Health >>>>>Organisation dating back to November 2008 - the link in the article >>>>>goes to here: >>>>>https://fctc.who.int/publications/m/item/guidelines-for-implementation-of-article-5.3
So where is the defamation that you refer to, Tony?
that you refer to, Tony?
I have never defamed anybody here. You are being childish.So you cannot identify any defamation by Lawrence in this thread. As I >thought, you are just trying to avoid the obvious - you are wrongHe has defamed people several times since he started spewing Marxistt >>nonsense
What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony? Where is
the defamation you refer to?
here. If you have not noticed that then it is probably because you did not >>want
to. But, hey, that is you is it not?
again, Tony, and in persisting with your lie are wrongly defaming
another poster. .
Why did you ask the stupid question then?There seems to be a lot that you don't know, but I am sure that theDid Shane Jones give the ''independent advice" that giving a tax cutI don't know, did he?
of over $200 million to a tobacco company was a good idea?
question will be asked through official legal avenues - the Official >Information Act has not yet been repealed . . . much though people
like yourself appear to believe it should be . .
Just another stupid question of yours, entirely irrel;evant and deliberately off topic.Atre you that stupid? Oops, yes you are. Your sarcastic crap is legendary. >Aaah - avoidance of the question - telling, don't you agree, Tony?
Did that loss of tax revenue cause the stopping of the Dunedin
hospital build?
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
You just need to review his many posts that show his bias against
What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
anybody and anything not l;eft wing supportive.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 23:18:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:Just because you do that does not mean you are correct in this instance. In fact you are quite wrong.
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
You just need to review his many posts that show his bias against
What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
anybody and anything not l;eft wing supportive.
Which is not really a factual and cogent answer, is it? Just an attempt to >deflect.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 23:18:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:Just because you do that does not mean you are correct in this instance. In >fact you are quite wrong.
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
You just need to review his many posts that show his bias against
What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
anybody and anything not l;eft wing supportive.
Which is not really a factual and cogent answer, is it? Just an attempt to >>deflect.
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:Keep on topic, Tony. We are not talking about other threads - what in
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 20:58:53 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou just need to review his many posts that show his bias against anybody and >anything not l;eft wing supportive. Just like you.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 07:20:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 03:20:01 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 07:05:58 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:You are a defamer, taken lessons from Rich have you? You just love to >>>>>>>show
The difference is, Jones knows how to treat the media with respect. >>>>>>>>Hmm, I didn’t know he had ties to the tobacco industry >>>>>>>><https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/511054/nz-first-minister-shane-jones-says-he-doesn-t-know-or-care-about-tobacco-industry-transparency-rules>.
off
your leftie bias and hatred of anything honest.
No - I don't support Jones or any party but unlike you I prefer truth. >>>>>>What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
Indeed - stick to the topic and this thread, Tony - where is theSee above
that you refer to, Tony?Not at all. it is just the way you suck up to him. A fellow traveller. >>Which does not of course answer the question - Where is the defamationThat's lame, even for you Tony.Are you his sister?
The article makes it clear that he has contacts with the tobacco >>>>>>industry - and that article contains a link to this one which >>>>>>reinforces the relationship with a particular tobacco lobbyist >>>>>>https://www.thepost.co.nz/politics/350158370/tobacco-lobbyist-guest-ministers-swearing-ceremony
Shane Jones has acknowledged the engagement, but does not care that >>>>>>New Zealand is a signatory to a convention from the World Health >>>>>>Organisation dating back to November 2008 - the link in the article >>>>>>goes to here: >>>>>>https://fctc.who.int/publications/m/item/guidelines-for-implementation-of-article-5.3
So where is the defamation that you refer to, Tony?
He has defamed people several times since he started spewing Marxistt >>>nonsense
What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony? Where is >>>>the defamation you refer to?
here. If you have not noticed that then it is probably because you did not >>>want
to. But, hey, that is you is it not?
So you cannot identify any defamation by Lawrence in this thread. As I >>thought, you are just trying to avoid the obvious - you are wrongI have never defamed anybody here. You are being childish.
again, Tony, and in persisting with your lie are wrongly defaming
another poster. .
Not at all off topic - money not wasted can be used elsewhere. We doWhy did you ask the stupid question then?
There seems to be a lot that you don't know, but I am sure that the >>question will be asked through official legal avenues - the Official >>Information Act has not yet been repealed . . . much though peopleDid Shane Jones give the ''independent advice" that giving a tax cutI don't know, did he?
of over $200 million to a tobacco company was a good idea?
like yourself appear to believe it should be . .
Just another stupid question of yours, entirely irrel;evant and deliberately >off topic.
Atre you that stupid? Oops, yes you are. Your sarcastic crap is legendary. >>Aaah - avoidance of the question - telling, don't you agree, Tony?
Did that loss of tax revenue cause the stopping of the Dunedin
hospital build?
On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 02:10:42 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are the liar. AT no stage did I say it was in this thgread.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 23:18:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:Just because you do that does not mean you are correct in this instance. In >>fact you are quite wrong.
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
You just need to review his many posts that show his bias against
What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
anybody and anything not l;eft wing supportive.
Which is not really a factual and cogent answer, is it? Just an attempt to >>>deflect.
In which case you must be able to give an example of something that
Lawrence has said that is not the truth, Tony - you claim that he has
but are not prepared to even support your own statement!. I am not
aware of any statements by Lawrence that are not the truth, but you
claim that he has made such a statement in this thread - it is up to
you to either justify your statement or apologise for being a liar . .
.See above - neither, sucker.
Which is it to be, Tony?
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 23:18:42 -0000 (UTC), TonyIt is on topic. I never limited the conversation but you want to - loser!
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:Keep on topic, Tony. We are not talking about other threads - what in
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 20:58:53 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou just need to review his many posts that show his bias against anybody and >>anything not l;eft wing supportive. Just like you.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 07:20:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 03:20:01 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 07:05:58 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:You are a defamer, taken lessons from Rich have you? You just love to >>>>>>>>show
The difference is, Jones knows how to treat the media with respect. >>>>>>>>>Hmm, I didn’t know he had ties to the tobacco industry >>>>>>>>><https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/511054/nz-first-minister-shane-jones-says-he-doesn-t-know-or-care-about-tobacco-industry-transparency-rules>.
off
your leftie bias and hatred of anything honest.
No - I don't support Jones or any party but unlike you I prefer truth. >>>>>>>What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
this thread has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
Above is all you need.Indeed - stick to the topic and this thread, Tony - where is theSee above
Not at all. it is just the way you suck up to him. A fellow traveller. >>>Which does not of course answer the question - Where is the defamation >>>that you refer to, Tony?That's lame, even for you Tony.Are you his sister?
The article makes it clear that he has contacts with the tobacco >>>>>>>industry - and that article contains a link to this one which >>>>>>>reinforces the relationship with a particular tobacco lobbyist >>>>>>>https://www.thepost.co.nz/politics/350158370/tobacco-lobbyist-guest-ministers-swearing-ceremony
Shane Jones has acknowledged the engagement, but does not care that >>>>>>>New Zealand is a signatory to a convention from the World Health >>>>>>>Organisation dating back to November 2008 - the link in the article >>>>>>>goes to here: >>>>>>>https://fctc.who.int/publications/m/item/guidelines-for-implementation-of-article-5.3
So where is the defamation that you refer to, Tony?
defamation that you refer to, Tony?
Nope.
He has defamed people several times since he started spewing Marxistt >>>>nonsense
What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony? Where is >>>>>the defamation you refer to?
here. If you have not noticed that then it is probably because you did not >>>>want
to. But, hey, that is you is it not?
So you cannot identify any defamation by Lawrence in this thread. As I >>>thought, you are just trying to avoid the obvious - you are wrongI have never defamed anybody here. You are being childish.
again, Tony, and in persisting with your lie are wrongly defaming
another poster. .
A claim that you cannot even explain let alone justify is clearly
defamation from you, Tony.
Political shite. Leave it weher it belongs in your grubby little brain.Not at all off topic - money not wasted can be used elsewhere. We doWhy did you ask the stupid question then?
There seems to be a lot that you don't know, but I am sure that the >>>question will be asked through official legal avenues - the Official >>>Information Act has not yet been repealed . . . much though peopleDid Shane Jones give the ''independent advice" that giving a tax cut >>>>>of over $200 million to a tobacco company was a good idea?I don't know, did he?
like yourself appear to believe it should be . .
Just another stupid question of yours, entirely irrel;evant and deliberately >>off topic.
Atre you that stupid? Oops, yes you are. Your sarcastic crap is legendary. >>>Aaah - avoidance of the question - telling, don't you agree, Tony?
Did that loss of tax revenue cause the stopping of the Dunedin >>>>>hospital build?
not know if Shane Jones colluded with Costello on the huge reduction
in tax for the tobacco company, but certainly he has ties to Philip
Morris - just as do a number of National Party MPs. If the coalition
were not spending so much giving tax cuts and other benefits to
political donors , they could possibly have afforded to help National
out with a real election promise - to complete the new Dunedin
Hospital!
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 02:10:42 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are the liar. AT no stage did I say it was in this thgread.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 23:18:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:Just because you do that does not mean you are correct in this instance. In >>>fact you are quite wrong.
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
You just need to review his many posts that show his bias against
What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
anybody and anything not l;eft wing supportive.
Which is not really a factual and cogent answer, is it? Just an attempt to >>>>deflect.
In which case you must be able to give an example of something that >>Lawrence has said that is not the truth, Tony - you claim that he has
but are not prepared to even support your own statement!. I am not
aware of any statements by Lawrence that are not the truth, but you
claim that he has made such a statement in this thread - it is up to
you to either justify your statement or apologise for being a liar . .
Suck it up and apologise, moronic littel boy.
You are a defamer, taken lessons from Rich have you? You just love to show >>>>off
your leftie bias and hatred of anything honest.
No - I don't support Jones or any party but unlike you I prefer truth. >>>What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?"
.See above - neither, sucker.
Which is it to be, Tony?
On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 06:44:45 -0000 (UTC), TonyI did not.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 02:10:42 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are the liar. AT no stage did I say it was in this thgread.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 23:18:42 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:Just because you do that does not mean you are correct in this instance. In >>>>fact you are quite wrong.
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
You just need to review his many posts that show his bias against
What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?
anybody and anything not l;eft wing supportive.
Which is not really a factual and cogent answer, is it? Just an attempt to >>>>>deflect.
In which case you must be able to give an example of something that >>>Lawrence has said that is not the truth, Tony - you claim that he has
but are not prepared to even support your own statement!. I am not
aware of any statements by Lawrence that are not the truth, but you
claim that he has made such a statement in this thread - it is up to
you to either justify your statement or apologise for being a liar . .
Suck it up and apologise, moronic littel boy.
Look back to this extract from further back in the thread:
">>>>>Hmm, I didn’t know he had ties to the tobacco industry >>>>>><https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/511054/nz-first-minister-shane-jones-says-he-doesn-t-know-or-care-about-tobacco-industry-transparency-rules>.
You are a defamer, taken lessons from Rich have you? You just love to show >>>>>off
your leftie bias and hatred of anything honest.
No - I don't support Jones or any party but unlike you I prefer truth. >>>>What has been said by Lawrence that is not the truth, Tony?"
You reacted to a post by Tony
with a claim that he is a defamer, andAbuse gone
that you "don't support Jones or any party", and then that you "prefer >truth."
In the context of the thread, you were responding directly to a
statement by Lawrence - you are the poster that insists that others
stick to the topic of the thread - but as you are demonstrating again
you love making up rules for others that you do not follow yourself.
Now you are getting increasingly embarrassed because you cannot
identify anything to support your egregious attach on Lawrence, just
as you have repeatedly done in other threads in relation to other
posters
Of course Shane Jones has ties to the tobacco industryNot proven.
- he likesAbuse gone, Rich is beyond help - a socipoathic fixated Marxist. He is also a racist and a coward.
anyone that donates money and like many of his fellow travelers tries
his est to return value for those donations. It is however worth
noting when he actually gets something correct - it doesn't happen
often, but sometimes he actually appears to have some laudable
objectives.
.See above - neither, sucker.
Which is it to be, Tony?
It was well done; as was his deliberate linking of the governments views
with those of Helen Clark: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/foreign-minister-winston-peters-and-former-pm-helen-clark-united-on-failings-of-un-security-council/DVJKYEXHSNAAHMW4BQ56CT7J2Y/
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 09:29:37 +1200, Rich80105 wrote:
It was well done; as was his deliberate linking of the governments views
with those of Helen Clark:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/foreign-minister-winston-peters-and-former-pm-helen-clark-united-on-failings-of-un-security-council/DVJKYEXHSNAAHMW4BQ56CT7J2Y/
Not so sure about that. Here he is talking about the abuse of veto
power by the permanent members, where he explicitly mentions Russia
but leaves out the biggest offender, the USA: ><https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/winston-peters-skewers-russia-in-un-speech-blames-both-hamas-israel-for-misery/H7O2XSVHDZCTJGZGIXXDQKENPY/>.
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 04:50:02 +1200, BR wrote:
The media does not deserve any respect.
They are liars, deceivers and manipulators.
Where did you hear that?
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 20:30:16 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 04:50:02 +1200, BR wrote:
The media does not deserve any respect.
They are liars, deceivers and manipulators.
Where did you hear that?
Hear it? I've seen it.
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 05:12:50 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 06:28:48 +1200, BR wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 20:30:16 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[email protected]d> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 04:50:02 +1200, BR wrote:
The media does not deserve any respect.
They are liars, deceivers and manipulators.
Where did you hear that?
Hear it? I've seen it.
Where did you “see” that?
I have spent time working in newsrooms.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 18:12:21 +1300, BR wrote:Bill can speak for himself but really, do you really, "really" think your response has any logic to it? There are many reasons why someone who works in a newsroom has absolutely nothing to do with copy. Geez you are very thick!
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 05:12:50 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[email protected]d> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 06:28:48 +1200, BR wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 20:30:16 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[email protected]d> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 04:50:02 +1200, BR wrote:
The media does not deserve any respect.
They are liars, deceivers and manipulators.
Where did you hear that?
Hear it? I've seen it.
Where did you “see” that?
I have spent time working in newsrooms.
So you admit to being one of those you call “liars, deceivers and >manipulators”?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:He was not claiming to have anything to do with copy - just that he
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 18:12:21 +1300, BR wrote:Bill can speak for himself but really, do you really, "really" think your >response has any logic to it? There are many reasons why someone who works in a
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 05:12:50 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[email protected]d> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 06:28:48 +1200, BR wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 20:30:16 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[email protected]d> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 04:50:02 +1200, BR wrote:
The media does not deserve any respect.
They are liars, deceivers and manipulators.
Where did you hear that?
Hear it? I've seen it.
Where did you “see�? that?
I have spent time working in newsrooms.
So you admit to being one of those you call “liars, deceivers and >>manipulators�??
newsroom has absolutely nothing to do with copy. Geez you are very thick!'
On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 00:15:37 -0000 (UTC), TonyAbuse gone
<[email protected]> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:had seen liars, deceivers and manipulators while working in newsrooms.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 18:12:21 +1300, BR wrote:Bill can speak for himself but really, do you really, "really" think your >>response has any logic to it? There are many reasons why someone who works in >>a
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 05:12:50 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[email protected]d> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 06:28:48 +1200, BR wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 20:30:16 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[email protected]d> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 04:50:02 +1200, BR wrote:
The media does not deserve any respect.
They are liars, deceivers and manipulators.
Where did you hear that?
Hear it? I've seen it.
Where did you “see�? that?
I have spent time working in newsrooms.
So you admit to being one of those you call “liars, deceivers and >>>manipulators�??
newsroom has absolutely nothing to do with copy. Geez you are very thick!' >He was not claiming to have anything to do with copy - just that he
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:Again you post without thinking. That is not what you said - are you deliberately being stupid to annoy others?
On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 00:15:37 -0000 (UTC), TonyAbuse gone
<[email protected]> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:had seen liars, deceivers and manipulators while working in newsrooms.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 18:12:21 +1300, BR wrote:Bill can speak for himself but really, do you really, "really" think your >>>response has any logic to it? There are many reasons why someone who works in
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 05:12:50 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[email protected]d> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 06:28:48 +1200, BR wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 20:30:16 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[email protected]d> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 04:50:02 +1200, BR wrote:
The media does not deserve any respect.
They are liars, deceivers and manipulators.
Where did you hear that?
Hear it? I've seen it.
Where did you “see�? that?
I have spent time working in newsrooms.
So you admit to being one of those you call “liars, deceivers and >>>>manipulators�??
a
newsroom has absolutely nothing to do with copy. Geez you are very thick!' >>He was not claiming to have anything to do with copy - just that he
Well done. Exactly what I said. You may thank me for that little bit of >education.
On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 05:34:24 -0000 (UTC), TonyIt is precisely what I wrote.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:Again you post without thinking. That is not what you said - are you >deliberately being stupid to annoy others?
On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 00:15:37 -0000 (UTC), TonyWell done. Exactly what I said. You may thank me for that little bit of >>education.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:had seen liars, deceivers and manipulators while working in newsrooms. >>Abuse gone
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 18:12:21 +1300, BR wrote:Bill can speak for himself but really, do you really, "really" think your >>>>response has any logic to it? There are many reasons why someone who works >>>>in
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 05:12:50 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[email protected]d> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 06:28:48 +1200, BR wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 20:30:16 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[email protected]d> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 04:50:02 +1200, BR wrote:
The media does not deserve any respect.
They are liars, deceivers and manipulators.
Where did you hear that?
Hear it? I've seen it.
Where did you “see�? that?
I have spent time working in newsrooms.
So you admit to being one of those you call “liars, deceivers and >>>>>manipulators�??
a
newsroom has absolutely nothing to do with copy. Geez you are very thick!' >>>He was not claiming to have anything to do with copy - just that he
On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 18:12:21 +1300, BR wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 05:12:50 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[email protected]d> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 06:28:48 +1200, BR wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 20:30:16 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[email protected]d> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 04:50:02 +1200, BR wrote:
The media does not deserve any respect.
They are liars, deceivers and manipulators.
Where did you hear that?
Hear it? I've seen it.
Where did you �see� that?
I have spent time working in newsrooms.
So you admit to being one of those you call �liars, deceivers and >manipulators�?
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