Remember, they’re already close to one-third through their term, andYes it is a tough act following 6 years of Labour presiding over progressively worse crime rates for 6 years. Look it up, that is a fact.
still not, it seems, making worthwhile progress on getting rid of
crime like they promised.
<https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/09/16/govt-at-risk-of-missing-violent-crime-student-achievement-targets/>
Remember, they�re already close to one-third through their term, and
still not, it seems, making worthwhile progress on getting rid of
crime like they promised.
<https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/09/16/govt-at-risk-of-missing-violent-crime-student-achievement-targets/>
Remember, they�re already close to one-third through their term, and
still not, it seems, making worthwhile progress on getting rid of
crime like they promised.
<https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/09/16/govt-at-risk-of-missing-violent-crime-student-achievement-targets/>
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 06:48:54 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro ><[email protected]d> wrote:Not a shred of evidence provided to support that. Just cojecture and political dogma.
Remember, they�re already close to one-third through their term, and
still not, it seems, making worthwhile progress on getting rid of
crime like they promised.
<https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/09/16/govt-at-risk-of-missing-violent-crime-student-achievement-targets/>
They were crowing about a reduction in some crimes in Auckland CBD,
but apparently that is because they took police from South Auckland,
which has had an increase in crimes - the net result being worse
results than before the last election. Their problem is that they are >fighting more police going to Australia - they appear not to realise
that having some police needing food bank assistance doesn't stack up
against better salaries and working conditions in Australia . . . they
don't understand market competition - only political donations and
pay-backs . . .
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 06:48:54 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro ><[email protected]d> wrote:
Remember, they�re already close to one-third through their term, and
still not, it seems, making worthwhile progress on getting rid of
crime like they promised.
<https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/09/16/govt-at-risk-of-missing-violent-crime-student-achievement-targets/>
Crime is arguably the easiest problem to fix.
The best way to reduce crime is to punish the criminals very severely.
Prison sentences could even be shorter as long as they are so
unpleasant that nobody would ever dare risk a repeat of the
experience.
Bill.
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 06:48:54 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[email protected]d> wrote:
Remember, theyre already close to one-third through their term, and
still not, it seems, making worthwhile progress on getting rid of
crime like they promised.
<https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/09/16/govt-at-risk-of-missing-violent-crime-student-achievement-targets/>
They were crowing about a reduction in some crimes in Auckland CBD,
but apparently that is because they took police from South Auckland,
which has had an increase in crimes - the net result being worse
results than before the last election. Their problem is that they are fighting more police going to Australia - they appear not to realise
that having some police needing food bank assistance doesn't stack up
against better salaries and working conditions in Australia . . . they
don't understand market competition - only political donations and
pay-backs . . .
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
Remember, they’re already close to one-third through their term, and >>still not, it seems, making worthwhile progress on getting rid ofYes it is a tough act following 6 years of Labour presiding over progressively
crime like they promised.
<https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/09/16/govt-at-risk-of-missing-violent-crime-student-achievement-targets/>
worse crime rates for 6 years. Look it up, that is a fact.
On 2024-09-16, Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:From the article referenced above:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 06:48:54 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro >><[email protected]d> wrote:
Remember, they?re already close to one-third through their term, and >>>still not, it seems, making worthwhile progress on getting rid of
crime like they promised.
<https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/09/16/govt-at-risk-of-missing-violent-crime-student-achievement-targets/>
They were crowing about a reduction in some crimes in Auckland CBD,
but apparently that is because they took police from South Auckland,
which has had an increase in crimes - the net result being worse
results than before the last election. Their problem is that they are
fighting more police going to Australia - they appear not to realise
that having some police needing food bank assistance doesn't stack up
against better salaries and working conditions in Australia . . . they
don't understand market competition - only political donations and
pay-backs . . .
You seem incapable of not shooting yourself in the foot, several postings a >day.
Yes it is a tough act following 6 years of Labour presiding over
On 2024-09-16, Tony <[email protected]> wrote:Correct.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
Remember, they’re already close to one-third through their term, and >>>still not, it seems, making worthwhile progress on getting rid ofYes it is a tough act following 6 years of Labour presiding over >>progressively
crime like they promised.
<https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/09/16/govt-at-risk-of-missing-violent-crime-student-achievement-targets/>
worse crime rates for 6 years. Look it up, that is a fact.
Interia plays a part in all of this. If the crime rates are going in the >wrong direction and encouraged by the Labour Government's lowering of the >numbers in prision then a "head of steam" is built up. The rates increase.
It takes time to get on the brakes and slow things down. Only then can one >start to decrease the rates.
The Government may well not reach the target set, but as long as the numbers >slow and then fall all is going as could be expeceted.
On 16 Sep 2024 22:02:05 GMT, Gordon <[email protected]> wrote:You are a as always offensive.
On 2024-09-16, Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:From the article referenced above:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 06:48:54 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro >>><[email protected]d> wrote:
Remember, they?re already close to one-third through their term, and >>>>still not, it seems, making worthwhile progress on getting rid of
crime like they promised.
<https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/09/16/govt-at-risk-of-missing-violent-crime-student-achievement-targets/>
They were crowing about a reduction in some crimes in Auckland CBD,
but apparently that is because they took police from South Auckland,
which has had an increase in crimes - the net result being worse
results than before the last election. Their problem is that they are
fighting more police going to Australia - they appear not to realise
that having some police needing food bank assistance doesn't stack up
against better salaries and working conditions in Australia . . . they
don't understand market competition - only political donations and
pay-backs . . .
You seem incapable of not shooting yourself in the foot, several postings a >>day.
"Its target of having 20,000 fewer people the victim of a violent
crime has instead recorded 30,000 more victims as of June.
The crime figures were based on the New Zealand Crimes and Victims
Survey, which shows people's experience from up to two years ago.
As of June, 214,737 people had experienced violent crime - the target
was 165,000. The baseline was 185,000."
I did not comment on the student achievement targets - are you more
concerned with them than the crime statistics, Gordon?
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 08:00:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:No, despite the fact that they are doing immeasurably better in almost every metric. Suck it up!
Yes it is a tough act following 6 years of Labour presiding over
Is that how NatActIrst is going to spend its entire term? Blaming the >previous Government for not being able to do anything?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 08:00:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:
Yes it is a tough act following 6 years of Labour presiding over
Is that how NatActIrst is going to spend its entire term? Blaming the >>previous Government for not being able to do anything?
... they are doing immeasurably better in almost every metric.
On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 03:17:12 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro ><[email protected]d> wrote:That is a carefully chosen single example. Typical marxist tactic.
On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 01:48:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 08:00:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:
Yes it is a tough act following 6 years of Labour presiding over
Is that how NatActIrst is going to spend its entire term? Blaming the >>>>previous Government for not being able to do anything?
... they are doing immeasurably better in almost every metric.
Presumably �almost� does not include the big one: stopping crime.
That is where this thread started, with: >https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/09/16/govt-at-risk-of-missing-violent-crime-student-achievement-targets/
from which: "Its target of having 20,000 fewer people the victim of a
violent crime has instead recorded 30,000 more victims as of June.
The crime figures were based on the New Zealand Crimes and Victims
Survey, which shows people's experience from up to two years ago.
As of June, 214,737 people had experienced violent crime - the target
was 165,000 from two years ago. The baseline was 185,000."
So target 20,000 fewer victims, actual result 30,000 more victims.
Better than many will have expected for the current government . . .
On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 01:48:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 08:00:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:
Yes it is a tough act following 6 years of Labour presiding over
Is that how NatActIrst is going to spend its entire term? Blaming the >>>previous Government for not being able to do anything?
... they are doing immeasurably better in almost every metric.
Presumably “almost” does not include the big one: stopping crime.
On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 01:48:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:No government, including this one, has ever promised to stop crime. WHJat planet were you born on?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 08:00:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:
Yes it is a tough act following 6 years of Labour presiding over
Is that how NatActIrst is going to spend its entire term? Blaming the >>>previous Government for not being able to do anything?
... they are doing immeasurably better in almost every metric.
Presumably “almost” does not include the big one: stopping crime.
On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 01:48:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 08:00:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:
Yes it is a tough act following 6 years of Labour presiding over
Is that how NatActIrst is going to spend its entire term? Blaming the >>>previous Government for not being able to do anything?
... they are doing immeasurably better in almost every metric.
Presumably �almost� does not include the big one: stopping crime.
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 03:17:12 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro >><[email protected]d> wrote:That is a carefully chosen single example. Typical marxist tactic.
On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 01:48:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 08:00:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:
Yes it is a tough act following 6 years of Labour presiding over
Is that how NatActIrst is going to spend its entire term? Blaming the >>>>>previous Government for not being able to do anything?
... they are doing immeasurably better in almost every metric.
Presumably �almost� does not include the big one: stopping crime.
That is where this thread started, with: >>https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/09/16/govt-at-risk-of-missing-violent-crime-student-achievement-targets/
from which: "Its target of having 20,000 fewer people the victim of a >>violent crime has instead recorded 30,000 more victims as of June.
The crime figures were based on the New Zealand Crimes and Victims
Survey, which shows people's experience from up to two years ago.
As of June, 214,737 people had experienced violent crime - the target
was 165,000 from two years ago. The baseline was 185,000."
So target 20,000 fewer victims, actual result 30,000 more victims.
Better than many will have expected for the current government . . .
On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 05:02:55 -0000 (UTC), TonyPlease do us all a favour and get some help.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 03:17:12 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro >>><[email protected]d> wrote:That is a carefully chosen single example. Typical marxist tactic.
On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 01:48:56 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 08:00:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony wrote:
Yes it is a tough act following 6 years of Labour presiding over
Is that how NatActIrst is going to spend its entire term? Blaming the >>>>>>previous Government for not being able to do anything?
... they are doing immeasurably better in almost every metric.
Presumably �almost� does not include the big one: stopping crime.
That is where this thread started, with: >>>https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/09/16/govt-at-risk-of-missing-violent-crime-student-achievement-targets/
from which: "Its target of having 20,000 fewer people the victim of a >>>violent crime has instead recorded 30,000 more victims as of June.
The crime figures were based on the New Zealand Crimes and Victims >>>Survey, which shows people's experience from up to two years ago.
As of June, 214,737 people had experienced violent crime - the target
was 165,000 from two years ago. The baseline was 185,000."
So target 20,000 fewer victims, actual result 30,000 more victims.
Better than many will have expected for the current government . . .
Since the article was carefully selected by you, does that make you a >Marxist?
As the article points out this is a target that the government were
seen to be at risk of missing. Why did you carefully pick that one
out, Tony?
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