Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: >>https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/publications/interim_nz_pandemic_plan_v2.pdfThe current plan will have been approved by the current government,
Those that sought and installed the failed mandates last time are simply >digging in. They, however, are ignoring the global groundswell of informed >opinion that says that those mandates were not merely wrong but actually did >harm at an international level.
Head to page 122 and start reading
Quote
"Mandatory measures are authorised by statute
Any action specified in this plan in relation to individuals, businesses
or other entities that includes the possibility of compulsory measures >>being taken must be authorised by statute. The action is otherwise
likely to be unlawful and, in particular, might be contrary to the
New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990.
Mandated measures may include:
• requirements for people to be tested, screened or vaccinated (may include >>arrivals
to New Zealand)
• quarantining or isolating people (ie, supporting those potentially exposed
and those
with the disease in a quarantine or treatment/isolation facility (or at home) >>or
prohibiting them from leaving a particular facility/home)
• restricting the movement of people into or out of an area
• restricting travel (within or out of New Zealand)
• imposing a duty to supply information for risk assessment or contact >>tracing (eg,
future travel plans or past travel history)
• requirements for people to undergo preventive treatment
• requirements for people not to go to work or other public places or to do >>so only
under certain conditions
• commandeering of resources (eg, land, buildings or vehicles).
Unquote
Does this seem like a repeat of 2020?
The second Royal Commission has not yet got started and yet we have all this >>"bias" in place.
It does seem that we are deemed to repeat history. We all know how well the >>pre 2019 plan was thrown away.
Head to page 122 and start readingThose that sought and installed the failed mandates last time are simply digging in. They, however, are ignoring the global groundswell of informed opinion that says that those mandates were not merely wrong but actually did harm at an international level.
Quote
"Mandatory measures are authorised by statute
Any action specified in this plan in relation to individuals, businesses
or other entities that includes the possibility of compulsory measures
being taken must be authorised by statute. The action is otherwise
likely to be unlawful and, in particular, might be contrary to the
New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990.
Mandated measures may include:
• requirements for people to be tested, screened or vaccinated (may include >arrivals
to New Zealand)
• quarantining or isolating people (ie, supporting those potentially exposed >and those
with the disease in a quarantine or treatment/isolation facility (or at home) >or
prohibiting them from leaving a particular facility/home)
• restricting the movement of people into or out of an area
• restricting travel (within or out of New Zealand)
• imposing a duty to supply information for risk assessment or contact >tracing (eg,
future travel plans or past travel history)
• requirements for people to undergo preventive treatment
• requirements for people not to go to work or other public places or to do >so only
under certain conditions
• commandeering of resources (eg, land, buildings or vehicles).
Unquote
Does this seem like a repeat of 2020?
The second Royal Commission has not yet got started and yet we have all this >"bias" in place.
It does seem that we are deemed to repeat history. We all know how well the >pre 2019 plan was thrown away.
https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/publications/interim_nz_pandemic_plan_v2.pdf
Head to page 122 and start reading
Quote
"Mandatory measures are authorised by statute
Any action specified in this plan in relation to individuals, businesses
or other entities that includes the possibility of compulsory measures
being taken must be authorised by statute. The action is otherwise
likely to be unlawful and, in particular, might be contrary to the
New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990.
Mandated measures may include:
� requirements for people to be tested, screened or vaccinated (may include arrivals
to New Zealand)
� quarantining or isolating people (ie, supporting those potentially exposed and those
with the disease in a quarantine or treatment/isolation facility (or at home) or
prohibiting them from leaving a particular facility/home)
� restricting the movement of people into or out of an area
� restricting travel (within or out of New Zealand)
� imposing a duty to supply information for risk assessment or contact tracing (eg,
future travel plans or past travel history)
� requirements for people to undergo preventive treatment
� requirements for people not to go to work or other public places or to do so only
under certain conditions
� commandeering of resources (eg, land, buildings or vehicles).
Unquote
Does this seem like a repeat of 2020?
The second Royal Commission has not yet got started and yet we have all this >"bias" in place.
It does seem that we are deemed to repeat history. We all know how well the >pre 2019 plan was thrown away.
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 00:43:28 -0000 (UTC), TonyNot what I referred to. A different topic.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: >>>https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/publications/interim_nz_pandemic_plan_v2.pdfThe current plan will have been approved by the current government,
Those that sought and installed the failed mandates last time are simply >>digging in. They, however, are ignoring the global groundswell of informed >>opinion that says that those mandates were not merely wrong but actually did >>harm at an international level.
Head to page 122 and start reading
Quote
"Mandatory measures are authorised by statute
Any action specified in this plan in relation to individuals, businesses >>>or other entities that includes the possibility of compulsory measures >>>being taken must be authorised by statute. The action is otherwise
likely to be unlawful and, in particular, might be contrary to the
New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990.
Mandated measures may include:
• requirements for people to be tested, screened or vaccinated (may >>>include
arrivals
to New Zealand)
• quarantining or isolating people (ie, supporting those potentially >>>exposed
and those
with the disease in a quarantine or treatment/isolation facility (or at >>>home)
or
prohibiting them from leaving a particular facility/home)
• restricting the movement of people into or out of an area
• restricting travel (within or out of New Zealand)
• imposing a duty to supply information for risk assessment or contact >>>tracing (eg,
future travel plans or past travel history)
• requirements for people to undergo preventive treatment
• requirements for people not to go to work or other public places or to >>>do
so only
under certain conditions
• commandeering of resources (eg, land, buildings or vehicles).
Unquote
Does this seem like a repeat of 2020?
The second Royal Commission has not yet got started and yet we have all this >>>"bias" in place.
It does seem that we are deemed to repeat history. We all know how well the >>>pre 2019 plan was thrown away.
Tony. What would you want to change?
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 07:38:07 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are silly. That is not the topic, the topic is too subtle for your brute forcc mind.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 00:43:28 -0000 (UTC), TonyNot what I referred to. A different topic.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/publications/interim_nz_pandemic_plan_v2.pdfThe current plan will have been approved by the current government,
Those that sought and installed the failed mandates last time are simply >>>>digging in. They, however, are ignoring the global groundswell of informed >>>>opinion that says that those mandates were not merely wrong but actually >>>>did
Head to page 122 and start reading
Quote
"Mandatory measures are authorised by statute
Any action specified in this plan in relation to individuals, businesses >>>>>or other entities that includes the possibility of compulsory measures >>>>>being taken must be authorised by statute. The action is otherwise >>>>>likely to be unlawful and, in particular, might be contrary to the >>>>>New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990.
Mandated measures may include:
• requirements for people to be tested, screened or vaccinated (may >>>>>include
arrivals
to New Zealand)
• quarantining or isolating people (ie, supporting those potentially >>>>>exposed
and those
with the disease in a quarantine or treatment/isolation facility (or at >>>>>home)
or
prohibiting them from leaving a particular facility/home)
• restricting the movement of people into or out of an area
• restricting travel (within or out of New Zealand)
• imposing a duty to supply information for risk assessment or contact >>>>>tracing (eg,
future travel plans or past travel history)
• requirements for people to undergo preventive treatment
• requirements for people not to go to work or other public places or to >>>>>do
so only
under certain conditions
• commandeering of resources (eg, land, buildings or vehicles).
Unquote
Does this seem like a repeat of 2020?
The second Royal Commission has not yet got started and yet we have all >>>>>this
"bias" in place.
It does seem that we are deemed to repeat history. We all know how well the
pre 2019 plan was thrown away.
harm at an international level.
Tony. What would you want to change?
The Subject is "The Next Pandemic, the plan"
The plan has been published; Gordon gave the link. Do you have any
problems with that plan, Tony?
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 00:43:28 -0000 (UTC), TonyNot what I referred to. A different topic.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/publications/interim_nz_pandemic_plan_v2.pdfThe current plan will have been approved by the current government,
Those that sought and installed the failed mandates last time are simply >>>digging in. They, however, are ignoring the global groundswell of informed >>>opinion that says that those mandates were not merely wrong but actually did >>>harm at an international level.
Head to page 122 and start reading
Quote
"Mandatory measures are authorised by statute
Any action specified in this plan in relation to individuals, businesses >>>>or other entities that includes the possibility of compulsory measures >>>>being taken must be authorised by statute. The action is otherwise >>>>likely to be unlawful and, in particular, might be contrary to the
New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990.
Mandated measures may include:
• requirements for people to be tested, screened or vaccinated (may >>>>include
arrivals
to New Zealand)
• quarantining or isolating people (ie, supporting those potentially >>>>exposed
and those
with the disease in a quarantine or treatment/isolation facility (or at >>>>home)
or
prohibiting them from leaving a particular facility/home)
• restricting the movement of people into or out of an area
• restricting travel (within or out of New Zealand)
• imposing a duty to supply information for risk assessment or contact >>>>tracing (eg,
future travel plans or past travel history)
• requirements for people to undergo preventive treatment
• requirements for people not to go to work or other public places or to >>>>do
so only
under certain conditions
• commandeering of resources (eg, land, buildings or vehicles).
Unquote
Does this seem like a repeat of 2020?
The second Royal Commission has not yet got started and yet we have all this
"bias" in place.
It does seem that we are deemed to repeat history. We all know how well the >>>>pre 2019 plan was thrown away.
Tony. What would you want to change?
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:So now you are trying to avoid the topic in a thread in which you were
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 07:38:07 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are silly. That is not the topic, the topic is too subtle for your brute >forcc mind.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 00:43:28 -0000 (UTC), TonyNot what I referred to. A different topic.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/publications/interim_nz_pandemic_plan_v2.pdfThe current plan will have been approved by the current government, >>>>Tony. What would you want to change?
Those that sought and installed the failed mandates last time are simply >>>>>digging in. They, however, are ignoring the global groundswell of informed >>>>>opinion that says that those mandates were not merely wrong but actually >>>>>did
Head to page 122 and start reading
Quote
"Mandatory measures are authorised by statute
Any action specified in this plan in relation to individuals, businesses >>>>>>or other entities that includes the possibility of compulsory measures >>>>>>being taken must be authorised by statute. The action is otherwise >>>>>>likely to be unlawful and, in particular, might be contrary to the >>>>>>New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990.
Mandated measures may include:
• requirements for people to be tested, screened or vaccinated (may >>>>>>include
arrivals
to New Zealand)
• quarantining or isolating people (ie, supporting those potentially >>>>>>exposed
and those
with the disease in a quarantine or treatment/isolation facility (or at >>>>>>home)
or
prohibiting them from leaving a particular facility/home)
• restricting the movement of people into or out of an area
• restricting travel (within or out of New Zealand)
• imposing a duty to supply information for risk assessment or contact >>>>>>tracing (eg,
future travel plans or past travel history)
• requirements for people to undergo preventive treatment
• requirements for people not to go to work or other public places or to
do
so only
under certain conditions
• commandeering of resources (eg, land, buildings or vehicles).
Unquote
Does this seem like a repeat of 2020?
The second Royal Commission has not yet got started and yet we have all >>>>>>this
"bias" in place.
It does seem that we are deemed to repeat history. We all know how well the
pre 2019 plan was thrown away.
harm at an international level.
The Subject is "The Next Pandemic, the plan"
The plan has been published; Gordon gave the link. Do you have any
problems with that plan, Tony?
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 22:08:53 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are stupid. The title was irony, now please go away and sit in your dunces corner.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:So now you are trying to avoid the topic in a thread in which you were
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 07:38:07 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are silly. That is not the topic, the topic is too subtle for your brute >>forcc mind.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 00:43:28 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><[email protected]> wrote:Not what I referred to. A different topic.
Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/publications/interim_nz_pandemic_plan_v2.pdfThe current plan will have been approved by the current government, >>>>>Tony. What would you want to change?
Those that sought and installed the failed mandates last time are simply >>>>>>digging in. They, however, are ignoring the global groundswell of >>>>>>informed
Head to page 122 and start reading
Quote
"Mandatory measures are authorised by statute
Any action specified in this plan in relation to individuals, businesses >>>>>>>or other entities that includes the possibility of compulsory measures >>>>>>>being taken must be authorised by statute. The action is otherwise >>>>>>>likely to be unlawful and, in particular, might be contrary to the >>>>>>>New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990.
Mandated measures may include:
• requirements for people to be tested, screened or vaccinated (may >>>>>>>include
arrivals
to New Zealand)
• quarantining or isolating people (ie, supporting those potentially >>>>>>>exposed
and those
with the disease in a quarantine or treatment/isolation facility (or at >>>>>>>home)
or
prohibiting them from leaving a particular facility/home)
• restricting the movement of people into or out of an area
• restricting travel (within or out of New Zealand)
• imposing a duty to supply information for risk assessment or contact >>>>>>>tracing (eg,
future travel plans or past travel history)
• requirements for people to undergo preventive treatment
• requirements for people not to go to work or other public places or >>>>>>>to
do
so only
under certain conditions
• commandeering of resources (eg, land, buildings or vehicles). >>>>>>>
Unquote
Does this seem like a repeat of 2020?
The second Royal Commission has not yet got started and yet we have all >>>>>>>this
"bias" in place.
It does seem that we are deemed to repeat history. We all know how well >>>>>>>the
pre 2019 plan was thrown away.
opinion that says that those mandates were not merely wrong but actually >>>>>>did
harm at an international level.
The Subject is "The Next Pandemic, the plan"
The plan has been published; Gordon gave the link. Do you have any >>>problems with that plan, Tony?
not the op - sorry Tony you cannot have it both ways - Gordon made it
clear the subject is the plan issued under this Government. It rightly >acknowledges the good work done at the height of the Covid-19
pandemic, and the need for us to be better prepared and to retain
similar legal provisions in readiness for the possibility of another
viral pandemic.
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 22:08:53 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are stupid. The title was irony, now please go away and sit in your dunces >corner.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:So now you are trying to avoid the topic in a thread in which you were
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 07:38:07 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are silly. That is not the topic, the topic is too subtle for your brute >>>forcc mind.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 00:43:28 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:Not what I referred to. A different topic.
Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/publications/interim_nz_pandemic_plan_v2.pdfThe current plan will have been approved by the current government, >>>>>>Tony. What would you want to change?
Those that sought and installed the failed mandates last time are simply >>>>>>>digging in. They, however, are ignoring the global groundswell of >>>>>>>informed
Head to page 122 and start reading
Quote
"Mandatory measures are authorised by statute
Any action specified in this plan in relation to individuals, businesses
or other entities that includes the possibility of compulsory measures >>>>>>>>being taken must be authorised by statute. The action is otherwise >>>>>>>>likely to be unlawful and, in particular, might be contrary to the >>>>>>>>New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990.
Mandated measures may include:
• requirements for people to be tested, screened or vaccinated (may >>>>>>>>include
arrivals
to New Zealand)
• quarantining or isolating people (ie, supporting those potentially >>>>>>>>exposed
and those
with the disease in a quarantine or treatment/isolation facility (or at >>>>>>>>home)
or
prohibiting them from leaving a particular facility/home)
• restricting the movement of people into or out of an area >>>>>>>>• restricting travel (within or out of New Zealand)
• imposing a duty to supply information for risk assessment or contact
tracing (eg,
future travel plans or past travel history)
• requirements for people to undergo preventive treatment
• requirements for people not to go to work or other public places or >>>>>>>>to
do
so only
under certain conditions
• commandeering of resources (eg, land, buildings or vehicles). >>>>>>>>
Unquote
Does this seem like a repeat of 2020?
The second Royal Commission has not yet got started and yet we have all >>>>>>>>this
"bias" in place.
It does seem that we are deemed to repeat history. We all know how well >>>>>>>>the
pre 2019 plan was thrown away.
opinion that says that those mandates were not merely wrong but actually >>>>>>>did
harm at an international level.
The Subject is "The Next Pandemic, the plan"
The plan has been published; Gordon gave the link. Do you have any >>>>problems with that plan, Tony?
not the op - sorry Tony you cannot have it both ways - Gordon made it
clear the subject is the plan issued under this Government. It rightly >>acknowledges the good work done at the height of the Covid-19
pandemic, and the need for us to be better prepared and to retain
similar legal provisions in readiness for the possibility of another
viral pandemic.
On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 03:58:46 -0000 (UTC), TonyThe entire OP was actually irony - look it up!
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 22:08:53 -0000 (UTC), TonyYou are stupid. The title was irony, now please go away and sit in your >>dunces
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:So now you are trying to avoid the topic in a thread in which you were >>>not the op - sorry Tony you cannot have it both ways - Gordon made it >>>clear the subject is the plan issued under this Government. It rightly >>>acknowledges the good work done at the height of the Covid-19
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 07:38:07 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><[email protected]> wrote:You are silly. That is not the topic, the topic is too subtle for your >>>>brute
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 00:43:28 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:Not what I referred to. A different topic.
Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/publications/interim_nz_pandemic_plan_v2.pdfThe current plan will have been approved by the current government, >>>>>>>Tony. What would you want to change?
Those that sought and installed the failed mandates last time are >>>>>>>>simply
Head to page 122 and start reading
Quote
"Mandatory measures are authorised by statute
Any action specified in this plan in relation to individuals, >>>>>>>>>businesses
or other entities that includes the possibility of compulsory measures >>>>>>>>>being taken must be authorised by statute. The action is otherwise >>>>>>>>>likely to be unlawful and, in particular, might be contrary to the >>>>>>>>>New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990.
Mandated measures may include:
• requirements for people to be tested, screened or vaccinated (may >>>>>>>>>include
arrivals
to New Zealand)
• quarantining or isolating people (ie, supporting those potentially >>>>>>>>>exposed
and those
with the disease in a quarantine or treatment/isolation facility (or >>>>>>>>>at
home)
or
prohibiting them from leaving a particular facility/home)
• restricting the movement of people into or out of an area >>>>>>>>>• restricting travel (within or out of New Zealand)
• imposing a duty to supply information for risk assessment or >>>>>>>>>contact
tracing (eg,
future travel plans or past travel history)
• requirements for people to undergo preventive treatment >>>>>>>>>• requirements for people not to go to work or other public places >>>>>>>>>or
to
do
so only
under certain conditions
• commandeering of resources (eg, land, buildings or vehicles). >>>>>>>>>
Unquote
Does this seem like a repeat of 2020?
The second Royal Commission has not yet got started and yet we have >>>>>>>>>all
this
"bias" in place.
It does seem that we are deemed to repeat history. We all know how >>>>>>>>>well
the
pre 2019 plan was thrown away.
digging in. They, however, are ignoring the global groundswell of >>>>>>>>informed
opinion that says that those mandates were not merely wrong but >>>>>>>>actually
did
harm at an international level.
The Subject is "The Next Pandemic, the plan"
The plan has been published; Gordon gave the link. Do you have any >>>>>problems with that plan, Tony?
forcc mind.
pandemic, and the need for us to be better prepared and to retain
similar legal provisions in readiness for the possibility of another >>>viral pandemic.
corner.
It is a real plan agreed by our Government for The Next Pandemic.
Where is the irony, Tony? Have the government got it right? Or Wrong?
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