https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2024/07/09/study-electric-vehicle-batteries-are-source-of-hazardous-forever-chemical-pollution/
With the net zero narrative we have the demand to remove CO2 from the >atmosphere, which is essential for life on earth as we know it, but it seems >that nasty chemicals which do not go away are okay to build up in the >environment. These "forever chemicals" are from EV battery manufacture.
This is a great disaster waiting to happen.
With the net zero narrative we have the demand to remove CO2 from the >atmosphere, which is essential for life on earth as we know it, but it seems >that nasty chemicals which do not go away are okay to build up in the >environment. These "forever chemicals" are from EV battery manufacture.Yes, and nobody can say they haven't been warned. Even in this modest forum there have been warnings for years about what seems to be a headlong rush into a yet to be fully understood technology.
This is a great disaster waiting to happen.
On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 06:34:45 -0000 (UTC), TonyNo, you blindly followed your leaders. As usual.
<[email protected]> wrote:
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On 28 Jul 2024 03:05:01 GMT, Gordon <[email protected]> wrote:No, you have joined in with the pathetic rabble that attack messengers >>instead
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2024/07/09/study-electric-vehicle-batteries-are-source-of-hazardous-forever-chemical-pollution/
With the net zero narrative we have the demand to remove CO2 from the >>>>atmosphere, which is essential for life on earth as we know it, but it seems
that nasty chemicals which do not go away are okay to build up in the >>>>environment. These "forever chemicals" are from EV battery manufacture. >>>>
This is a great disaster waiting to happen.
It certainly sounds bad, Gordon, and I am surprised we have not heard
of this before, but then I read this: >>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_News
Now many people would see that as sufficient evidence that it is a
fake story, but it is worth looking further - see also:
of addressing the data or topic. No change of course, but that is what you >>are
doing, ignoring the content.
On the contrary - the Brietbart site is indeed one that is often
accused of peddling misinformation, but I did what many, including you
Tony, often refuse to do - I checked with other websites to find that
is in fact not a normal far-right trumpian fabrication - and indeed to
also find that New Zealand is onto at least parts of this problem - as
shown below.
Off topic.Not irrelevant at all - the original article relates d to electricIrrelevent.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-49753-5 >>>https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/jul/14/forever-chemicals-lithium-ion-batteries-environment
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/07/240708222418.htm
and a search on polyfluoroalkyl substances gives:
from which: "From December 31, 2026, cosmetic products containing PFAS >>>are banned from being imported or manufactured in New Zealand."https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/01/31/nz-to-ban-forever-chemicals-in-cosmetics-from-end-of-2026/#:~:text=The%20Environmental%20Protection%20Authority%20(EPA,protect%20consumers%20and%20the%20environment.
and >>>https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/04/30/napier-drinking-water-tests-clear-of-forever-chemicals/
and >>>https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/08/13/kiwi-scientists-find-way-to-destroy-forever-chemicals-in-soil/
So I guess all we now need to know is whether the current government
will extend that Environment Protection Authority ban to harmful >>>substances that you have pointed out may exist in electric vehicle >>>batteries . . . New Zealand seems to be at least up with if not
ahead of the rest of the world - do you have concerns that the current >>>government will not follow through in relation to electric batteries
for Tesla EV's, Gordon?
batteries; the problem is wider than that, but New Zealand is aware of
the problem - but there may still be a concern is our government
ignores the science. Just give it a bit of thought, Tony, and you will
see that even if you cannot accept that i am "Right", the concerns
raised in the original post may be very real, and yes even relevant.
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On 28 Jul 2024 03:05:01 GMT, Gordon <[email protected]> wrote:No, you have joined in with the pathetic rabble that attack messengers instead >of addressing the data or topic. No change of course, but that is what you are >doing, ignoring the content.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2024/07/09/study-electric-vehicle-batteries-are-source-of-hazardous-forever-chemical-pollution/
With the net zero narrative we have the demand to remove CO2 from the >>>atmosphere, which is essential for life on earth as we know it, but it seems >>>that nasty chemicals which do not go away are okay to build up in the >>>environment. These "forever chemicals" are from EV battery manufacture.
This is a great disaster waiting to happen.
It certainly sounds bad, Gordon, and I am surprised we have not heard
of this before, but then I read this: >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_News
Now many people would see that as sufficient evidence that it is a
fake story, but it is worth looking further - see also:
Not irrelevant at all - the original article relates d to electricIrrelevent.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-49753-5 >>https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/jul/14/forever-chemicals-lithium-ion-batteries-environment
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/07/240708222418.htm
and a search on polyfluoroalkyl substances gives:
from which: "From December 31, 2026, cosmetic products containing PFAShttps://www.1news.co.nz/2024/01/31/nz-to-ban-forever-chemicals-in-cosmetics-from-end-of-2026/#:~:text=The%20Environmental%20Protection%20Authority%20(EPA,protect%20consumers%20and%20the%20environment.
are banned from being imported or manufactured in New Zealand."
and >>https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/04/30/napier-drinking-water-tests-clear-of-forever-chemicals/
and >>https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/08/13/kiwi-scientists-find-way-to-destroy-forever-chemicals-in-soil/
So I guess all we now need to know is whether the current government
will extend that Environment Protection Authority ban to harmful
substances that you have pointed out may exist in electric vehicle >>batteries . . . New Zealand seems to be at least up with if not
ahead of the rest of the world - do you have concerns that the current >>government will not follow through in relation to electric batteries
for Tesla EV's, Gordon?
On 28 Jul 2024 03:05:01 GMT, Gordon <[email protected]> wrote:No, you have joined in with the pathetic rabble that attack messengers instead of addressing the data or topic. No change of course, but that is what you are doing, ignoring the content.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2024/07/09/study-electric-vehicle-batteries-are-source-of-hazardous-forever-chemical-pollution/
With the net zero narrative we have the demand to remove CO2 from the >>atmosphere, which is essential for life on earth as we know it, but it seems >>that nasty chemicals which do not go away are okay to build up in the >>environment. These "forever chemicals" are from EV battery manufacture.
This is a great disaster waiting to happen.
It certainly sounds bad, Gordon, and I am surprised we have not heard
of this before, but then I read this: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_News
Now many people would see that as sufficient evidence that it is a
fake story, but it is worth looking further - see also:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-49753-5 >https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/jul/14/forever-chemicals-lithium-ion-batteries-environmentIrrelevent.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/07/240708222418.htm
and a search on polyfluoroalkyl substances gives:
https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/01/31/nz-to-ban-forever-chemicals-in-cosmetics-from-end-of-2026/#:~:text=The%20Environmental%20Protection%20Authority%20(EPA,protect%20consumers%20and%20the%20environment.
from which: "From December 31, 2026, cosmetic products containing PFAS
are banned from being imported or manufactured in New Zealand."
and >https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/04/30/napier-drinking-water-tests-clear-of-forever-chemicals/
and >https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/08/13/kiwi-scientists-find-way-to-destroy-forever-chemicals-in-soil/
So I guess all we now need to know is whether the current government
will extend that Environment Protection Authority ban to harmful
substances that you have pointed out may exist in electric vehicle
batteries . . . New Zealand seems to be at least up with if not
ahead of the rest of the world - do you have concerns that the current >government will not follow through in relation to electric batteries
for Tesla EV's, Gordon?
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