National are still fighting against doing what is in the bestShame on you for your lies and support of the last government that actively destroyed lives.
interests of New Zealanders - see
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/520023/politicians-the-last-people-we-want-picking-drugs-for-us-cancer-expert-says
"Health Minister Shane Reti's hard line around funding 13 new cancer >treatments is a "lose-lose" for patients, oncologist Chris Jackson
says.
On the campaign trail, National promised to fund the drugs that had
been highlighted in a Cancer Control Agency Report about the medicine
gap in Aotearoa; Professor Jackson was one of the authors.
But despite Reti submitting a funding bid the treatments were not
included in the Budget prompting a public outcry.
At a select committee hearing on Tuesday Dr Reti doubled down on
National's promise, saying it would fund the specified drugs.
Professor Jackson said the drugs were put on the list three years ago
and treatments had moved on.
A new list would be "meaningfully different", he said, and would
prevent a significant number of people, such as those with blood
cancer, missing out.
If the government persisted, better drugs would miss out and drug
companies would be able to charge "top dollar" for the named drugs.
National had bought itself a political problem by promising named
drugs to cancer sufferers.
The best option would be to give Pharmac set funding for cancer
treatments.
"A better way out of this would be for National to say we promise
everyone who had a drug on the list they will get the same or better
which would give the experts a chance to come up with a newer list."
It would also mean the drug companies would have to compete against
other which was better for taxpayers and those with cancer would gain
access to much more modern treatments.
While the minister was maintaining that the experts had chosen the
list, Professor Jackson said the experts were now calling for the list
to be redone.
"Hear what we're saying now which is redo the list."
National's current list contained no drugs to treat breast, prostate
and blood cancers and only one for colon cancer and it was not the
best one available now.
For bowel cancer there was now a drug and immune therapy available
which cured 40 to 60 percent of those with metastatic disease while
for melanoma there was a treatment which was working for half of
patients with secondary brain cancers.
"So if we go ahead with this dogged policy we're going to be in a
lose-lose situation because the best drugs won't get across the line
and we'll be paying top dollar."
He was adamant that the government was undermining Pharmac by naming
drugs that would be purchased.
Pharmac should be in charge of making the decisions, he said.
"By picking winners we're putting politicians in the position whereby
it's open season. It becomes standard that politicians get lobbied for >individual drugs and that's a terrible position to be because
politicians are the last people we want picking drugs for us."
More staff including nurses and doctors and other resources would also
be required because once the drugs were bought it would be the largest
number ever dropped into the health sector at the same time.
Professor Jackson said he had contacted both Prime Minister
Christopher Luxon and Reti but had not had any response so far. "
_________________________
National - putting politics ahead of New Zealanders health. Shame on
them.
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
National are still fighting against doing what is in the best
interests of New Zealanders - see
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/520023/politicians-the-last-people-we-want-picking-drugs-for-us-cancer-expert-says
"Health Minister Shane Reti's hard line around funding 13 new cancer >treatments is a "lose-lose" for patients, oncologist Chris Jackson
says.
On the campaign trail, National promised to fund the drugs that had
been highlighted in a Cancer Control Agency Report about the medicine
gap in Aotearoa; Professor Jackson was one of the authors.
But despite Reti submitting a funding bid the treatments were not
included in the Budget prompting a public outcry.
At a select committee hearing on Tuesday Dr Reti doubled down on
National's promise, saying it would fund the specified drugs.
Professor Jackson said the drugs were put on the list three years ago
and treatments had moved on.
A new list would be "meaningfully different", he said, and would
prevent a significant number of people, such as those with blood
cancer, missing out.
If the government persisted, better drugs would miss out and drug
companies would be able to charge "top dollar" for the named drugs.
National had bought itself a political problem by promising named
drugs to cancer sufferers.
The best option would be to give Pharmac set funding for cancer
treatments.
"A better way out of this would be for National to say we promise
everyone who had a drug on the list they will get the same or better
which would give the experts a chance to come up with a newer list."
It would also mean the drug companies would have to compete against
other which was better for taxpayers and those with cancer would gain >access to much more modern treatments.
While the minister was maintaining that the experts had chosen the
list, Professor Jackson said the experts were now calling for the list
to be redone.
"Hear what we're saying now which is redo the list."
National's current list contained no drugs to treat breast, prostate
and blood cancers and only one for colon cancer and it was not the
best one available now.
For bowel cancer there was now a drug and immune therapy available
which cured 40 to 60 percent of those with metastatic disease while
for melanoma there was a treatment which was working for half of
patients with secondary brain cancers.
"So if we go ahead with this dogged policy we're going to be in a
lose-lose situation because the best drugs won't get across the line
and we'll be paying top dollar."
He was adamant that the government was undermining Pharmac by naming
drugs that would be purchased.
Pharmac should be in charge of making the decisions, he said.
"By picking winners we're putting politicians in the position whereby
it's open season. It becomes standard that politicians get lobbied for >individual drugs and that's a terrible position to be because
politicians are the last people we want picking drugs for us."
More staff including nurses and doctors and other resources would also
be required because once the drugs were bought it would be the largest >number ever dropped into the health sector at the same time.
Professor Jackson said he had contacted both Prime Minister
Christopher Luxon and Reti but had not had any response so far. "
_________________________Shame on you for your lies and support of the last government that actively destroyed lives.
National - putting politics ahead of New Zealanders health. Shame on
them.
There is so much money and that is all - sad but true, however you only believe
that when Labour are in command.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
National are still fighting against doing what is in the bestShame on you for your lies and support of the last government that actively >> destroyed lives.
interests of New Zealanders - see
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/520023/politicians-the-last-people-we-want-picking-drugs-for-us-cancer-expert-says
"Health Minister Shane Reti's hard line around funding 13 new cancer
treatments is a "lose-lose" for patients, oncologist Chris Jackson
says.
On the campaign trail, National promised to fund the drugs that had
been highlighted in a Cancer Control Agency Report about the medicine
gap in Aotearoa; Professor Jackson was one of the authors.
But despite Reti submitting a funding bid the treatments were not
included in the Budget prompting a public outcry.
At a select committee hearing on Tuesday Dr Reti doubled down on
National's promise, saying it would fund the specified drugs.
Professor Jackson said the drugs were put on the list three years ago
and treatments had moved on.
A new list would be "meaningfully different", he said, and would
prevent a significant number of people, such as those with blood
cancer, missing out.
If the government persisted, better drugs would miss out and drug
companies would be able to charge "top dollar" for the named drugs.
National had bought itself a political problem by promising named
drugs to cancer sufferers.
The best option would be to give Pharmac set funding for cancer
treatments.
"A better way out of this would be for National to say we promise
everyone who had a drug on the list they will get the same or better
which would give the experts a chance to come up with a newer list."
It would also mean the drug companies would have to compete against
other which was better for taxpayers and those with cancer would gain
access to much more modern treatments.
While the minister was maintaining that the experts had chosen the
list, Professor Jackson said the experts were now calling for the list
to be redone.
"Hear what we're saying now which is redo the list."
National's current list contained no drugs to treat breast, prostate
and blood cancers and only one for colon cancer and it was not the
best one available now.
For bowel cancer there was now a drug and immune therapy available
which cured 40 to 60 percent of those with metastatic disease while
for melanoma there was a treatment which was working for half of
patients with secondary brain cancers.
"So if we go ahead with this dogged policy we're going to be in a
lose-lose situation because the best drugs won't get across the line
and we'll be paying top dollar."
He was adamant that the government was undermining Pharmac by naming
drugs that would be purchased.
Pharmac should be in charge of making the decisions, he said.
"By picking winners we're putting politicians in the position whereby
it's open season. It becomes standard that politicians get lobbied for
individual drugs and that's a terrible position to be because
politicians are the last people we want picking drugs for us."
More staff including nurses and doctors and other resources would also
be required because once the drugs were bought it would be the largest
number ever dropped into the health sector at the same time.
Professor Jackson said he had contacted both Prime Minister
Christopher Luxon and Reti but had not had any response so far. "
_________________________
National - putting politics ahead of New Zealanders health. Shame on
them.
There is so much money and that is all - sad but true, however you only believe
that when Labour are in command.
I'm not sure how Labour is relevant here? This isn't about Labour -
they're not in charge anymore. And if you're going to claim lies it
would be helpful to other readers if you pointed out what specifically
you believe to be a lie. I don't see any obvious lies in the quoted
text.
National has promised that which they should not have promised, and then >failed to deliver destroying the hopes of people whose lives depend on
that promise being fulfilled.
National made a mistake and it's as simple as that.
As for funding: perhaps National should have prioritised the money they
*do* have better. Instead of breaking their promise to cancer patients,
they could have broken their promise to property investors. They did
have choices here.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]I was referring to the litany of lies that Rich has spewed here for about 2 decades, and Labour failed to deliver far more than this government has.
says...
Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
National are still fighting against doing what is in the bestShame on you for your lies and support of the last government that actively >> destroyed lives.
interests of New Zealanders - see
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/520023/politicians-the-last-people-we-want-picking-drugs-for-us-cancer-expert-says
"Health Minister Shane Reti's hard line around funding 13 new cancer
treatments is a "lose-lose" for patients, oncologist Chris Jackson
says.
On the campaign trail, National promised to fund the drugs that had
been highlighted in a Cancer Control Agency Report about the medicine
gap in Aotearoa; Professor Jackson was one of the authors.
But despite Reti submitting a funding bid the treatments were not
included in the Budget prompting a public outcry.
At a select committee hearing on Tuesday Dr Reti doubled down on
National's promise, saying it would fund the specified drugs.
Professor Jackson said the drugs were put on the list three years ago
and treatments had moved on.
A new list would be "meaningfully different", he said, and would
prevent a significant number of people, such as those with blood
cancer, missing out.
If the government persisted, better drugs would miss out and drug
companies would be able to charge "top dollar" for the named drugs.
National had bought itself a political problem by promising named
drugs to cancer sufferers.
The best option would be to give Pharmac set funding for cancer
treatments.
"A better way out of this would be for National to say we promise
everyone who had a drug on the list they will get the same or better
which would give the experts a chance to come up with a newer list."
It would also mean the drug companies would have to compete against
other which was better for taxpayers and those with cancer would gain
access to much more modern treatments.
While the minister was maintaining that the experts had chosen the
list, Professor Jackson said the experts were now calling for the list
to be redone.
"Hear what we're saying now which is redo the list."
National's current list contained no drugs to treat breast, prostate
and blood cancers and only one for colon cancer and it was not the
best one available now.
For bowel cancer there was now a drug and immune therapy available
which cured 40 to 60 percent of those with metastatic disease while
for melanoma there was a treatment which was working for half of
patients with secondary brain cancers.
"So if we go ahead with this dogged policy we're going to be in a
lose-lose situation because the best drugs won't get across the line
and we'll be paying top dollar."
He was adamant that the government was undermining Pharmac by naming
drugs that would be purchased.
Pharmac should be in charge of making the decisions, he said.
"By picking winners we're putting politicians in the position whereby
it's open season. It becomes standard that politicians get lobbied for
individual drugs and that's a terrible position to be because
politicians are the last people we want picking drugs for us."
More staff including nurses and doctors and other resources would also
be required because once the drugs were bought it would be the largest
number ever dropped into the health sector at the same time.
Professor Jackson said he had contacted both Prime Minister
Christopher Luxon and Reti but had not had any response so far. "
_________________________
National - putting politics ahead of New Zealanders health. Shame on
them.
There is so much money and that is all - sad but true, however you only >>believe
that when Labour are in command.
I'm not sure how Labour is relevant here? This isn't about Labour -
they're not in charge anymore. And if you're going to claim lies it
would be helpful to other readers if you pointed out what specifically
you believe to be a lie. I don't see any obvious lies in the quoted
text.
National has promised that which they should not have promised, and then >failed to deliver destroying the hopes of people whose lives depend on
that promise being fulfilled.
National made a mistake and it's as simple as that.
As for funding: perhaps National should have prioritised the money they
*do* have better. Instead of breaking their promise to cancer patients,
they could have broken their promise to property investors. They did
have choices here.
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 715 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 158:42:36 |
| Calls: | 12,094 |
| Calls today: | 2 |
| Files: | 15,000 |
| Messages: | 6,517,757 |