If we buy into the CO2 is bad for global warming, the internal combustion >engine is not guilty but rather the fuel.I have believed for some time that Hybrids are not a bad idea in the right environment. Full electric vehicles are another matter, too many unanswered questions for me.
What this development signals is that pure EV sales are going to stall. If
we go hybrid we can virtual signal to the green crowd while actually getting >there without having to wait while the vehicle is charging on long(ish) road >trip.
We also do not need to have quite the upgrade to the power network.
Hybrids are not the silver bullet but in the real world they may just rule >the roads until the pure EV's are developed to remove the sticking points.
Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: >>https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/350305216/toyota-and-subarus-new-engines-could-be-game-changers
I have believed for some time that Hybrids are not a bad idea in the right >environment. Full electric vehicles are another matter, too many unanswered >questions for me.
If we buy into the CO2 is bad for global warming, the internal combustion >>engine is not guilty but rather the fuel.
What this development signals is that pure EV sales are going to stall. If >>we go hybrid we can virtual signal to the green crowd while actually getting >>there without having to wait while the vehicle is charging on long(ish) road >>trip.
We also do not need to have quite the upgrade to the power network.
Hybrids are not the silver bullet but in the real world they may just rule >>the roads until the pure EV's are developed to remove the sticking points.
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 21:29:01 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<[email protected]> wrote:
Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: >>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/350305216/toyota-and-subarus-new-engines-could-be-game-changers
If we buy into the CO2 is bad for global warming, the internal combustion >>>engine is not guilty but rather the fuel.
What this development signals is that pure EV sales are going to stall. If >>>we go hybrid we can virtual signal to the green crowd while actually getting >>>there without having to wait while the vehicle is charging on long(ish) road >>>trip.
We also do not need to have quite the upgrade to the power network.
Hybrids are not the silver bullet but in the real world they may just rule >>>the roads until the pure EV's are developed to remove the sticking points. >>I have believed for some time that Hybrids are not a bad idea in the right >>environment. Full electric vehicles are another matter, too many unanswered >>questions for me.
"Full electric" does have its justification. It is without peer for
short trips, usually around a city (i.e. as a town car). ICE engines
emit most of their emissions when running at ambient (ie cold)
temperatures and they are always running without oil lubrication at
the same time. BEVs run the same from the beginning to end of a trip.
I have a BEV used exclusively as a town car, backed up with an ICE car
for use either as a second car or where the BEV is not appropriate.
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 11:05:10 +1200, Crash <[email protected]d>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 21:29:01 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<[email protected]> wrote:
Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/350305216/toyota-and-subarus-new-engines-could-be-game-changers
If we buy into the CO2 is bad for global warming, the internal combustion >>>>engine is not guilty but rather the fuel.
What this development signals is that pure EV sales are going to stall. If >>>>we go hybrid we can virtual signal to the green crowd while actually getting
there without having to wait while the vehicle is charging on long(ish) road
trip.
We also do not need to have quite the upgrade to the power network.
Hybrids are not the silver bullet but in the real world they may just rule >>>>the roads until the pure EV's are developed to remove the sticking points. >>>I have believed for some time that Hybrids are not a bad idea in the right >>>environment. Full electric vehicles are another matter, too many unanswered >>>questions for me.
"Full electric" does have its justification. It is without peer for
short trips, usually around a city (i.e. as a town car). ICE engines
emit most of their emissions when running at ambient (ie cold)
temperatures and they are always running without oil lubrication at
the same time. BEVs run the same from the beginning to end of a trip.
I have a BEV used exclusively as a town car, backed up with an ICE car
for use either as a second car or where the BEV is not appropriate.
Cost and convenience are the main drivers, but climate change concerns
have a small impact as well. EVs tend to be more expensive to buy, but
some believe they will hold value better than ICE; running costs
include relative costs of petrol and electricity, and government
imposed charges. Unfortunately recent changes to Road User Charges do
not make it easy to compare ICE costs with EV or Hybrid costs. In
particular, the basis for RUCs is seen as now penalising some EVs,
while undercharging heavy freight vehicles. A light EV should pay less
than a heavier EV, and vehicles should also be charged based on the
level of emissions - the government has not got the mix right.
Convenience is influenced by charging requirements, which may depend
on whether electricity is easily provided where the vehicle is parked >overnight. Moves by other countries to encourage EVs will affect us
as manufacturers re-align to serve other markets; we will increase the >popularity of EVs and HEVs, and eventually the government will realise
that subsidising heavy road vehicles is more expensive than using rail
- especially if electric powered rail is extended.
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