Some seem to dislike the container-style houses being built by Kainga
Ora <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/surprise-at-new-chinese-container-style-kainga-ora-apartments-for-sandringham/PP4MOLZ3LJAZHI444QN5IBHKIY/>.
Sure, they look a bit like containers (though much bigger). But that
doesn?t mean they?re ugly. And they seem to be well-appointed.
To coin a phrase, the proof of the housing is in the living.
In article <v33035$7smu$[email protected]>, [email protected]d says...
Some seem to dislike the container-style houses being built by Kainga
Ora
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/surprise-at-new-chinese-container-style-kainga-ora-apartments-for-sandringham/PP4MOLZ3LJAZHI444QN5IBHKIY/>.
Sure, they look a bit like containers (though much bigger). But that
doesn?t mean they?re ugly. And they seem to be well-appointed.
To coin a phrase, the proof of the housing is in the living.
I've often wondered why there hasn't been more prefab housing to meet
demand, especially for the likes of KiwiBuild.
Its not like we've haven't done it before. The Railways Department had
quite a successful house factory in Frankton, Hamilton in the 1920s
building over 1,500 prefab houses that ended up scattered around the
North Island.
On Tue, 28 May 2024 10:31:30 +1200, David Goodwin
<[email protected]> wrote:
In article <v33035$7smu$[email protected]>, [email protected]d says...
Some seem to dislike the container-style houses being built by Kainga
Ora
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/surprise-at-new-chinese-container-style-kainga-ora-apartments-for-sandringham/PP4MOLZ3LJAZHI444QN5IBHKIY/>.
Sure, they look a bit like containers (though much bigger). But that
doesn?t mean they?re ugly. And they seem to be well-appointed.
To coin a phrase, the proof of the housing is in the living.
I've often wondered why there hasn't been more prefab housing to meet >>demand, especially for the likes of KiwiBuild.
Its not like we've haven't done it before. The Railways Department had >>quite a successful house factory in Frankton, Hamilton in the 1920s >>building over 1,500 prefab houses that ended up scattered around the
North Island.
Keith Hay Homes still does this now. Not from containers. Been
around since 1938.
It would be interesting to see why KO chooses to use housing
manufactured in China when the same construction approach can be used
without the cost of international shipping.
On Tue, 28 May 2024 15:16:39 +1200, Crash <[email protected]d>Hopefully, after all Labour didn't achieve it or anythin like it.
wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2024 10:31:30 +1200, David Goodwin
<[email protected]> wrote:
In article <v33035$7smu$[email protected]>, [email protected]d says...
Some seem to dislike the container-style houses being built by Kainga
Ora
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/surprise-at-new-chinese-container-style-kainga-ora-apartments-for-sandringham/PP4MOLZ3LJAZHI444QN5IBHKIY/>.
Sure, they look a bit like containers (though much bigger). But that
doesn?t mean they?re ugly. And they seem to be well-appointed.
To coin a phrase, the proof of the housing is in the living.
I've often wondered why there hasn't been more prefab housing to meet >>>demand, especially for the likes of KiwiBuild.
Its not like we've haven't done it before. The Railways Department had >>>quite a successful house factory in Frankton, Hamilton in the 1920s >>>building over 1,500 prefab houses that ended up scattered around the >>>North Island.
Keith Hay Homes still does this now. Not from containers. Been
around since 1938.
It would be interesting to see why KO chooses to use housing
manufactured in China when the same construction approach can be used >>without the cost of international shipping.
Covered in the article:
"Prefabricated housing business Ecotech imported the units from China"
and
"But Patrick Dougherty, Kainga Ora�s general manager of construction
and innovation, defended the result, saying the Crown entity was
developing its land using offsite manufacturing.
Buying the units from China for the Sandringham site had cost savings,
he indicated."
"�This construction method is not new to Kainga Ora and we work with
both New Zealand-based suppliers and established offshore
manufacturing facilities to deliver homes.
�Developments using off-site manufacturing require local workforces
for site works, consultants, tradespeople and construction
professionals. All OSM modular units are built in accordance with
approved building consent plans and are compliant with all NZ
standards,� he said.
Such methods can reduce material waste and construction time,
providing quality, warm homes at a faster pace than traditional
builds."
"Ecotech says swapping traditional wood framing for an ultra-strong >structural steel chassis means the multi-pod modules can stack up to
seven levels high. Projects can be completed two to three times faster
but at 40 per cent less cost with no compromise on quality.
Maxion Civil is the site contractor on the Sandringham site."
Looking for value for money and quick construction was one way in
which the Labour Government built The last Labour Government built
more state homes than any Government since the 1950s � with one in six
state homes in New Zealand built in the last six years.
National have promised that life is going to get easier for all New >Zealanders - will they build enough additional homes to stop rents
rising faster than inflation?
On Tue, 28 May 2024 15:16:39 +1200, Crash <[email protected]d>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2024 10:31:30 +1200, David Goodwin
<[email protected]> wrote:
In article <v33035$7smu$[email protected]>, [email protected]d says...
Some seem to dislike the container-style houses being built by Kainga
Ora
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/surprise-at-new-chinese-container-style-kainga-ora-apartments-for-sandringham/PP4MOLZ3LJAZHI444QN5IBHKIY/>.
Sure, they look a bit like containers (though much bigger). But that
doesn?t mean they?re ugly. And they seem to be well-appointed.
To coin a phrase, the proof of the housing is in the living.
I've often wondered why there hasn't been more prefab housing to meet >>>demand, especially for the likes of KiwiBuild.
Its not like we've haven't done it before. The Railways Department had >>>quite a successful house factory in Frankton, Hamilton in the 1920s >>>building over 1,500 prefab houses that ended up scattered around the >>>North Island.
Keith Hay Homes still does this now. Not from containers. Been
around since 1938.
It would be interesting to see why KO chooses to use housing
manufactured in China when the same construction approach can be used >>without the cost of international shipping.
Covered in the article:
"Prefabricated housing business Ecotech imported the units from China"
and
"But Patrick Dougherty, Kainga Ora�s general manager of construction
and innovation, defended the result, saying the Crown entity was
developing its land using offsite manufacturing.
Buying the units from China for the Sandringham site had cost savings,
he indicated."
"�This construction method is not new to Kainga Ora and we work with
both New Zealand-based suppliers and established offshore
manufacturing facilities to deliver homes.
�Developments using off-site manufacturing require local workforces
for site works, consultants, tradespeople and construction
professionals. All OSM modular units are built in accordance with
approved building consent plans and are compliant with all NZ
standards,� he said.
Such methods can reduce material waste and construction time,
providing quality, warm homes at a faster pace than traditional
builds."
"Ecotech says swapping traditional wood framing for an ultra-strong >structural steel chassis means the multi-pod modules can stack up to
seven levels high. Projects can be completed two to three times faster
but at 40 per cent less cost with no compromise on quality.
Maxion Civil is the site contractor on the Sandringham site."
Looking for value for money and quick construction was one way in
which the Labour Government built The last Labour Government built
more state homes than any Government since the 1950s � with one in six
state homes in New Zealand built in the last six years.
National have promised that life is going to get easier for all New >Zealanders - will they build enough additional homes to stop rents
rising faster than inflation?
On Tue, 28 May 2024 15:16:39 +1200, Crash <[email protected]d>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2024 10:31:30 +1200, David Goodwin
<[email protected]> wrote:
In article <v33035$7smu$[email protected]>, [email protected]d says...
Some seem to dislike the container-style houses being built by Kainga
Ora
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/surprise-at-new-chinese-container-style-kainga-ora-apartments-for-sandringham/PP4MOLZ3LJAZHI444QN5IBHKIY/>.
Sure, they look a bit like containers (though much bigger). But that
doesn?t mean they?re ugly. And they seem to be well-appointed.
To coin a phrase, the proof of the housing is in the living.
I've often wondered why there hasn't been more prefab housing to meet >>>demand, especially for the likes of KiwiBuild.
Its not like we've haven't done it before. The Railways Department had >>>quite a successful house factory in Frankton, Hamilton in the 1920s >>>building over 1,500 prefab houses that ended up scattered around the >>>North Island.
Keith Hay Homes still does this now. Not from containers. Been
around since 1938.
It would be interesting to see why KO chooses to use housing
manufactured in China when the same construction approach can be used >>without the cost of international shipping.
Covered in the article:
"Prefabricated housing business Ecotech imported the units from China"
and
"But Patrick Dougherty, Kainga Oras general manager of construction
and innovation, defended the result, saying the Crown entity was
developing its land using offsite manufacturing.
Buying the units from China for the Sandringham site had cost savings,
he indicated."
"This construction method is not new to Kainga Ora and we work with
both New Zealand-based suppliers and established offshore
manufacturing facilities to deliver homes.
Developments using off-site manufacturing require local workforces
for site works, consultants, tradespeople and construction
professionals. All OSM modular units are built in accordance with
approved building consent plans and are compliant with all NZ
standards, he said.
Such methods can reduce material waste and construction time,
providing quality, warm homes at a faster pace than traditional
builds."
"Ecotech says swapping traditional wood framing for an ultra-strong structural steel chassis means the multi-pod modules can stack up to
seven levels high. Projects can be completed two to three times faster
but at 40 per cent less cost with no compromise on quality.
Maxion Civil is the site contractor on the Sandringham site."
Looking for value for money and quick construction was one way in
which the Labour Government built The last Labour Government built
more state homes than any Government since the 1950s with one in six
state homes in New Zealand built in the last six years.
National have promised that life is going to get easier for all New Zealanders - will they build enough additional homes to stop rents
rising faster than inflation?
On 2024-05-28, Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2024 15:16:39 +1200, Crash <[email protected]d>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2024 10:31:30 +1200, David Goodwin >>><[email protected]> wrote:
In article <v33035$7smu$[email protected]>, [email protected]d says...
Some seem to dislike the container-style houses being built by Kainga >>>>> Ora
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/surprise-at-new-chinese-container-style-kainga-ora-apartments-for-sandringham/PP4MOLZ3LJAZHI444QN5IBHKIY/>.
Sure, they look a bit like containers (though much bigger). But that >>>>> doesn?t mean they?re ugly. And they seem to be well-appointed.
To coin a phrase, the proof of the housing is in the living.
I've often wondered why there hasn't been more prefab housing to meet >>>>demand, especially for the likes of KiwiBuild.
Its not like we've haven't done it before. The Railways Department had >>>>quite a successful house factory in Frankton, Hamilton in the 1920s >>>>building over 1,500 prefab houses that ended up scattered around the >>>>North Island.
Keith Hay Homes still does this now. Not from containers. Been
around since 1938.
It would be interesting to see why KO chooses to use housing
manufactured in China when the same construction approach can be used >>>without the cost of international shipping.
International shipping costs very little. Less than many people think.
Covered in the article:
"Prefabricated housing business Ecotech imported the units from China"
and
"But Patrick Dougherty, Kainga Ora?s general manager of construction
and innovation, defended the result, saying the Crown entity was
developing its land using offsite manufacturing.
Buying the units from China for the Sandringham site had cost savings,
he indicated."
"?This construction method is not new to Kainga Ora and we work with
both New Zealand-based suppliers and established offshore
manufacturing facilities to deliver homes.
?Developments using off-site manufacturing require local workforces
for site works, consultants, tradespeople and construction
professionals. All OSM modular units are built in accordance with
approved building consent plans and are compliant with all NZ
standards,? he said.
Such methods can reduce material waste and construction time,
providing quality, warm homes at a faster pace than traditional
builds."
"Ecotech says swapping traditional wood framing for an ultra-strong
structural steel chassis means the multi-pod modules can stack up to
seven levels high. Projects can be completed two to three times faster
but at 40 per cent less cost with no compromise on quality.
Maxion Civil is the site contractor on the Sandringham site."
Looking for value for money and quick construction was one way in
which the Labour Government built The last Labour Government built
more state homes than any Government since the 1950s ? with one in six
state homes in New Zealand built in the last six years.
National have promised that life is going to get easier for all New
Zealanders - will they build enough additional homes to stop rents
rising faster than inflation?
On 28 May 2024 08:18:43 GMT, Gordon <[email protected]> wrote:I don't know the industry well enough, but I understand that we mill
On 2024-05-28, Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:It should logically cost a great deal more to get houses built in
On Tue, 28 May 2024 15:16:39 +1200, Crash <[email protected]d>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2024 10:31:30 +1200, David Goodwin >>>><[email protected]> wrote:
In article <v33035$7smu$[email protected]>, [email protected]d says...
Some seem to dislike the container-style houses being built by Kainga >>>>>> Ora
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/surprise-at-new-chinese-container-style-kainga-ora-apartments-for-sandringham/PP4MOLZ3LJAZHI444QN5IBHKIY/>.
Sure, they look a bit like containers (though much bigger). But that >>>>>> doesn?t mean they?re ugly. And they seem to be well-appointed.
To coin a phrase, the proof of the housing is in the living.
I've often wondered why there hasn't been more prefab housing to meet >>>>>demand, especially for the likes of KiwiBuild.
Its not like we've haven't done it before. The Railways Department had >>>>>quite a successful house factory in Frankton, Hamilton in the 1920s >>>>>building over 1,500 prefab houses that ended up scattered around the >>>>>North Island.
Keith Hay Homes still does this now. Not from containers. Been
around since 1938.
It would be interesting to see why KO chooses to use housing >>>>manufactured in China when the same construction approach can be used >>>>without the cost of international shipping.
International shipping costs very little. Less than many people think.
China to Sandringham than houses built in Mt Roskill to Sandringham.
Covered in the article:
"Prefabricated housing business Ecotech imported the units from China"
and
"But Patrick Dougherty, Kainga Ora?s general manager of construction
and innovation, defended the result, saying the Crown entity was
developing its land using offsite manufacturing.
Buying the units from China for the Sandringham site had cost savings,
he indicated."
"?This construction method is not new to Kainga Ora and we work with
both New Zealand-based suppliers and established offshore
manufacturing facilities to deliver homes.
?Developments using off-site manufacturing require local workforces
for site works, consultants, tradespeople and construction
professionals. All OSM modular units are built in accordance with
approved building consent plans and are compliant with all NZ
standards,? he said.
Such methods can reduce material waste and construction time,
providing quality, warm homes at a faster pace than traditional
builds."
"Ecotech says swapping traditional wood framing for an ultra-strong
structural steel chassis means the multi-pod modules can stack up to
seven levels high. Projects can be completed two to three times faster
but at 40 per cent less cost with no compromise on quality.
Maxion Civil is the site contractor on the Sandringham site."
Looking for value for money and quick construction was one way in
which the Labour Government built The last Labour Government built
more state homes than any Government since the 1950s ? with one in six
state homes in New Zealand built in the last six years.
National have promised that life is going to get easier for all New
Zealanders - will they build enough additional homes to stop rents
rising faster than inflation?
On Tue, 28 May 2024 18:19:02 +1200, Rich80105 <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2024 15:16:39 +1200, Crash <[email protected]d> >>wrote:They did not specifically what the cost savings were in comparison to.
On Tue, 28 May 2024 10:31:30 +1200, David Goodwin >>><[email protected]> wrote:
In article <v33035$7smu$[email protected]>, [email protected]d says...
Some seem to dislike the container-style houses being built by Kainga >>>>> Ora
<https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/surprise-at-new-chinese-container-style-kainga-ora-apartments-for-sandringham/PP4MOLZ3LJAZHI444QN5IBHKIY/>.
Sure, they look a bit like containers (though much bigger). But that >>>>> doesn?t mean they?re ugly. And they seem to be well-appointed.
To coin a phrase, the proof of the housing is in the living.
I've often wondered why there hasn't been more prefab housing to meet >>>>demand, especially for the likes of KiwiBuild.
Its not like we've haven't done it before. The Railways Department had >>>>quite a successful house factory in Frankton, Hamilton in the 1920s >>>>building over 1,500 prefab houses that ended up scattered around the >>>>North Island.
Keith Hay Homes still does this now. Not from containers. Been
around since 1938.
It would be interesting to see why KO chooses to use housing
manufactured in China when the same construction approach can be used >>>without the cost of international shipping.
Covered in the article:
"Prefabricated housing business Ecotech imported the units from China"
and
"But Patrick Dougherty, Kainga Ora�s general manager of construction
and innovation, defended the result, saying the Crown entity was
developing its land using offsite manufacturing.
Buying the units from China for the Sandringham site had cost savings,
he indicated."
They also did not specifically mention that local manufacturers of
offsite manufacturing had been part of this decision.
"�This construction method is not new to Kainga Ora and we work withClearly a reference to Ecotech. Still no reference to NZ-based
both New Zealand-based suppliers and established offshore
manufacturing facilities to deliver homes.
�Developments using off-site manufacturing require local workforces
for site works, consultants, tradespeople and construction
professionals. All OSM modular units are built in accordance with
approved building consent plans and are compliant with all NZ
standards,� he said.
suppliers of homes built offsite.
Such methods can reduce material waste and construction time,
providing quality, warm homes at a faster pace than traditional
builds."
"Ecotech says swapping traditional wood framing for an ultra-strong >>structural steel chassis means the multi-pod modules can stack up to
seven levels high. Projects can be completed two to three times faster
but at 40 per cent less cost with no compromise on quality.
Maxion Civil is the site contractor on the Sandringham site."
Looking for value for money and quick construction was one way in
which the Labour Government built The last Labour Government built
more state homes than any Government since the 1950s � with one in six >>state homes in New Zealand built in the last six years.
National have promised that life is going to get easier for all New >>Zealanders - will they build enough additional homes to stop rents
rising faster than inflation?
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