• State Housing - NAct1st attacks more New Zealanders

    From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 22 20:37:39 2024
    http://werewolf.co.nz/2024/05/8372/

    This article points out how poor that report from Bill English was - I
    suspect he did make some reasonable suggestions, but he was probably
    not allowed to be seen to show up the lack of ability of the Minister
    of Finance. The debt held by Kainga Ora could have been extinguished
    by the government by the stroke of a pen - criticising a property
    owner for having debt is implying that the government's favoured
    investors are so stupid that they really needed favoured investment
    tax breaks to be profitable. So Bill English dutifully wrote a report
    that said what the taxpayer Union wanted them to say - and set the
    scene for passing over responsibility for growing state house
    provision to community and private sector organisations that will
    require funding to build the new houses that Chris Bishop has promised
    . . .

    In reality they will not be prepared to take on large debts, and the
    fragmented approach will see housing continue to be a problem when
    trying to attract doctors, nurses, police officers and teachers to New
    Zealand, and the big private landlords will laugh all the way to the
    bank as rents increase in response to the demand . . ., and coupled
    with the cutting of the first home grants, it will be harder than ever
    for the next generation to buy a house . . .

    This is government by the wealthy for the wealthy.

    Remember the mantra of "equal opportunity" used by previous National
    led governments? Under this NZTP / NZ Initiative driven government
    they are hell bent on small government and paying off political donors
    . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed May 22 20:01:45 2024
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    http://werewolf.co.nz/2024/05/8372/

    This article points out how poor that report from Bill English was - I >suspect he did make some reasonable suggestions, but he was probably
    not allowed to be seen to show up the lack of ability of the Minister
    of Finance. The debt held by Kainga Ora could have been extinguished
    by the government by the stroke of a pen - criticising a property
    owner for having debt is implying that the government's favoured
    investors are so stupid that they really needed favoured investment
    tax breaks to be profitable. So Bill English dutifully wrote a report
    that said what the taxpayer Union wanted them to say - and set the
    scene for passing over responsibility for growing state house
    provision to community and private sector organisations that will
    require funding to build the new houses that Chris Bishop has promised
    . . .

    In reality they will not be prepared to take on large debts, and the >fragmented approach will see housing continue to be a problem when
    trying to attract doctors, nurses, police officers and teachers to New >Zealand, and the big private landlords will laugh all the way to the
    bank as rents increase in response to the demand . . ., and coupled
    with the cutting of the first home grants, it will be harder than ever
    for the next generation to buy a house . . .

    This is government by the wealthy for the wealthy.

    Remember the mantra of "equal opportunity" used by previous National
    led governments? Under this NZTP / NZ Initiative driven government
    they are hell bent on small government and paying off political donors
    . . .
    All the above is garbage. You are desperate.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 23 08:38:23 2024
    On Wed, 22 May 2024 20:37:39 +1200, Rich80105 <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    http://werewolf.co.nz/2024/05/8372/

    This article points out how poor that report from Bill English was - I >suspect he did make some reasonable suggestions, but he was probably
    not allowed to be seen to show up the lack of ability of the Minister
    of Finance. The debt held by Kainga Ora could have been extinguished
    by the government by the stroke of a pen - criticising a property
    owner for having debt is implying that the government's favoured
    investors are so stupid that they really needed favoured investment
    tax breaks to be profitable. So Bill English dutifully wrote a report
    that said what the taxpayer Union wanted them to say - and set the
    scene for passing over responsibility for growing state house
    provision to community and private sector organisations that will
    require funding to build the new houses that Chris Bishop has promised
    . . .

    In reality they will not be prepared to take on large debts, and the >fragmented approach will see housing continue to be a problem when
    trying to attract doctors, nurses, police officers and teachers to New >Zealand, and the big private landlords will laugh all the way to the
    bank as rents increase in response to the demand . . ., and coupled
    with the cutting of the first home grants, it will be harder than ever
    for the next generation to buy a house . . .

    Rich this is fair comment and it remains to be seen whether the
    predictions made both by Gordon Campbell in the article are borne out.
    However the need to reform Housing NZ (also known as Kainga Ora) is
    clear, given performance in recent times with tenant and financial
    management issues. The status quo was completely untenable.

    This is government by the wealthy for the wealthy.

    Remember the mantra of "equal opportunity" used by previous National
    led governments? Under this NZTP / NZ Initiative driven government
    they are hell bent on small government and paying off political donors
    . . .

    Rich you start a thread on an issue of the day, with valid comments,
    but you simply cannot post without ending in worthless political
    rhetoric that reminds us yet again that your motivation in posting
    solely political.


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    Crash McBash

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 23 10:23:20 2024
    On Thu, 23 May 2024 08:38:23 +1200, Crash <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 22 May 2024 20:37:39 +1200, Rich80105 <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    http://werewolf.co.nz/2024/05/8372/

    This article points out how poor that report from Bill English was - I >>suspect he did make some reasonable suggestions, but he was probably
    not allowed to be seen to show up the lack of ability of the Minister
    of Finance. The debt held by Kainga Ora could have been extinguished
    by the government by the stroke of a pen - criticising a property
    owner for having debt is implying that the government's favoured
    investors are so stupid that they really needed favoured investment
    tax breaks to be profitable. So Bill English dutifully wrote a report
    that said what the taxpayer Union wanted them to say - and set the
    scene for passing over responsibility for growing state house
    provision to community and private sector organisations that will
    require funding to build the new houses that Chris Bishop has promised
    . . .

    In reality they will not be prepared to take on large debts, and the >>fragmented approach will see housing continue to be a problem when
    trying to attract doctors, nurses, police officers and teachers to New >>Zealand, and the big private landlords will laugh all the way to the
    bank as rents increase in response to the demand . . ., and coupled
    with the cutting of the first home grants, it will be harder than ever
    for the next generation to buy a house . . .

    Rich this is fair comment and it remains to be seen whether the
    predictions made both by Gordon Campbell in the article are borne out. >However the need to reform Housing NZ (also known as Kainga Ora) is
    clear, given performance in recent times with tenant and financial
    management issues. The status quo was completely untenable.

    This is government by the wealthy for the wealthy.

    Remember the mantra of "equal opportunity" used by previous National
    led governments? Under this NZTP / NZ Initiative driven government
    they are hell bent on small government and paying off political donors
    . . .

    Rich you start a thread on an issue of the day, with valid comments,
    but you simply cannot post without ending in worthless political
    rhetoric that reminds us yet again that your motivation in posting
    solely political.

    Gordon Campbell's article was titled:
    "Gordon Campbell on the privatising of state housing provision, by
    stealth"

    "Equal Opportunity" will not happen where the only housing options are
    from private landlords. Dysfunctional families have been problematic
    under all governments for many years, but rehabilitation des not
    happen easily, and breaking families up can create worse problems. The Government has not been honest about the problems they are not fixing,
    and their experience of the Key / English governments will make
    community organisations very wary of getting more involved in
    provision of social housing - they will also not be prepared to carry
    debt that they cannot be very confident they will be able to repay,
    and it will take longer this time to agree contracts with the
    government. Currently the government have stopped many ongoing
    contracts while they re-group; there are a few private developers
    starting new projects, but I know we are losing some skilled
    tradespeople to Australia.

    I was contrasting the election policies articulated by Jim Bolger in
    promising "equal opportunity" - which was comprehensively destroyed by
    the financial policies of his finance Minister, Ruth Richardson. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Richardson - it is no surprise that
    Ruth Richardson has for a long time been a supporter of ACT and a
    Board member of the "NZ Taxpayers Union" - linked by the Atlas Network
    to the Mont Pelerin Society which Richardson has belonged to for even
    longer.
    (see https://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/215796/1/Full-text-book-Plehwe-et-al-Nine-lives-of-neoliberalism.pdf
    from page 253 to 290 )

    The political decisions being made by the government are clearly
    closer to those of ACT than the National-led governments of Key and
    English - quite a few staffers of Ministers have past links to the NZ
    Taxpayer Union or the NZ Initiative, and David Saunders has a
    significantly greater role than when ACT was previously in government.
    All three of the Government parties are giving priority to policies
    that assisted funding, and ACT is prominent in being able to get
    policies through that would have caused the more financially aware
    John Key and Bill English to have resisted more strongly.

    Crash, you may not want to hear it, but to a greater extent than any
    other government than I can remember, the policies we are seeing come
    through from this government are being driven by political ideology,
    with the impetus being the link to the meetings of the three
    ''leaders" that resulted in the coalition agreement which is being
    taken as absolute policy commitments rather than issues where
    discussion among the parties can reach consensus. I know of National
    Party supporters that are concerned that the party is being told what
    policies are rather than having any say in even how they are
    implemented.

    I do not know how many Atlas Network people are staffers with
    Government Ministers, but Christopher Luxon has Joe Ascroft as his
    economic adviser - he was previously an economic adviser at the NZ
    Taxpayers Union.

    Like it or not, politics is what leads to political decisions, and
    those decisions do affect all of us. The changes going through at
    present are as significant as those during the times of Roger Douglas
    and Ruth Richardson - the decisions now do not appear to be initiated
    by the current Minister of Finance, but they are important for the
    future of our country, but are not being well explained to the
    population that will be affected by them.

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