• If not the nasty party, the party of nasties

    From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 14 09:12:42 2024
    Well, well,well:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350244539/senior-labour-mp-ordered-take-down-gross-social-media-posts

    This from an MP who was a cabinet Minister in the last Labour
    Government


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    Crash McBash

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Crash on Sun Apr 14 02:57:55 2024
    On 2024-04-13, Crash <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Well, well,well:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350244539/senior-labour-mp-ordered-take-down-gross-social-media-posts

    This from an MP who was a cabinet Minister in the last Labour
    Government


    This has to be a case of where the boss/leader acted quickly and in a manner fitting the occasion.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to Gordon on Sun Apr 14 20:22:20 2024
    On 14 Apr 2024 02:57:55 GMT, Gordon <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2024-04-13, Crash <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Well, well,well:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350244539/senior-labour-mp-ordered-take-down-gross-social-media-posts

    This from an MP who was a cabinet Minister in the last Labour
    Government


    This has to be a case of where the boss/leader acted quickly and in a manner >fitting the occasion.

    That's not the point. There is a senior member of the current Labour
    caucus who thought his social media post was appropriate, and his
    Leader thought that this was no more than a mistake fixed by deleting
    it.

    I would have thought that Hipkins might have thought this action
    merits removal from the Labour Caucus. Perhaps Labour in opposition
    think that this is simply the way the opposition is expected to behave
    now. Perhaps Hipkins is demonstrating that he does not have what it
    takes to get Labour back in government.

    Perhaps Labour needs another electoral cycle to change perceptions
    left over from the 2017-2023 governments.


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    Crash McBash

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 14 22:15:30 2024
    On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 20:22:20 +1200, Crash <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On 14 Apr 2024 02:57:55 GMT, Gordon <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2024-04-13, Crash <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Well, well,well:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350244539/senior-labour-mp-ordered-take-down-gross-social-media-posts

    This from an MP who was a cabinet Minister in the last Labour
    Government


    This has to be a case of where the boss/leader acted quickly and in a manner >>fitting the occasion.

    That's not the point. There is a senior member of the current Labour
    caucus who thought his social media post was appropriate, and his
    Leader thought that this was no more than a mistake fixed by deleting
    it.

    I would have thought that Hipkins might have thought this action
    merits removal from the Labour Caucus. Perhaps Labour in opposition
    think that this is simply the way the opposition is expected to behave
    now. Perhaps Hipkins is demonstrating that he does not have what it
    takes to get Labour back in government.

    Perhaps Labour needs another electoral cycle to change perceptions
    left over from the 2017-2023 governments.

    Absolutely, Crash - if they haven't learned from the political
    wizardry of Dirty tricks and now the NZ Taxpayer Union mad all its
    offshoot propaganda sites, and able to coordinate devastating
    political attacks through social media, you have to ask whether they
    are worth having in government ever - gross social media should always
    be unable to get attributed to those lovely people in Power; how can
    you govern a country if you cannot destroy those you do not agree
    with. Being civilised or nice is for losers - Right!, Crash?

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Crash on Sun Apr 14 20:18:31 2024
    Crash <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 14 Apr 2024 02:57:55 GMT, Gordon <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2024-04-13, Crash <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Well, well,well:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350244539/senior-labour-mp-ordered-take-down-gross-social-media-posts

    This from an MP who was a cabinet Minister in the last Labour
    Government


    This has to be a case of where the boss/leader acted quickly and in a manner >>fitting the occasion.

    That's not the point. There is a senior member of the current Labour
    caucus who thought his social media post was appropriate, and his
    Leader thought that this was no more than a mistake fixed by deleting
    it.
    Yes indeed. That is the issue, but then Labour do not easily hold their people to account, history tells us so.

    I would have thought that Hipkins might have thought this action
    merits removal from the Labour Caucus. Perhaps Labour in opposition
    think that this is simply the way the opposition is expected to behave
    now. Perhaps Hipkins is demonstrating that he does not have what it
    takes to get Labour back in government.

    Perhaps Labour needs another electoral cycle to change perceptions
    left over from the 2017-2023 governments.


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    Crash McBash

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 15 08:34:32 2024
    On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 22:15:30 +1200, Rich80105 <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 20:22:20 +1200, Crash <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On 14 Apr 2024 02:57:55 GMT, Gordon <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2024-04-13, Crash <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Well, well,well:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350244539/senior-labour-mp-ordered-take-down-gross-social-media-posts

    This from an MP who was a cabinet Minister in the last Labour
    Government


    This has to be a case of where the boss/leader acted quickly and in a manner >>>fitting the occasion.

    That's not the point. There is a senior member of the current Labour >>caucus who thought his social media post was appropriate, and his
    Leader thought that this was no more than a mistake fixed by deleting
    it.

    I would have thought that Hipkins might have thought this action
    merits removal from the Labour Caucus. Perhaps Labour in opposition
    think that this is simply the way the opposition is expected to behave
    now. Perhaps Hipkins is demonstrating that he does not have what it
    takes to get Labour back in government.

    Perhaps Labour needs another electoral cycle to change perceptions
    left over from the 2017-2023 governments.

    Absolutely, Crash - if they haven't learned from the political
    wizardry of Dirty tricks and now the NZ Taxpayer Union mad all its
    offshoot propaganda sites, and able to coordinate devastating
    political attacks through social media, you have to ask whether they
    are worth having in government ever - gross social media should always
    be unable to get attributed to those lovely people in Power; how can
    you govern a country if you cannot destroy those you do not agree
    with. Being civilised or nice is for losers - Right!, Crash?

    All political rhetoric as usual Rich. This thread is about the
    behaviour of a senior Labour MP and the clearly-tarnished reputation
    of Labour MPs. Your response mentioned nothing relevant to this.


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    Crash McBash

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Apr 14 20:20:08 2024
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 20:22:20 +1200, Crash <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On 14 Apr 2024 02:57:55 GMT, Gordon <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2024-04-13, Crash <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Well, well,well:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350244539/senior-labour-mp-ordered-take-down-gross-social-media-posts

    This from an MP who was a cabinet Minister in the last Labour
    Government


    This has to be a case of where the boss/leader acted quickly and in a manner >>>fitting the occasion.

    That's not the point. There is a senior member of the current Labour >>caucus who thought his social media post was appropriate, and his
    Leader thought that this was no more than a mistake fixed by deleting
    it.

    I would have thought that Hipkins might have thought this action
    merits removal from the Labour Caucus. Perhaps Labour in opposition
    think that this is simply the way the opposition is expected to behave
    now. Perhaps Hipkins is demonstrating that he does not have what it
    takes to get Labour back in government.

    Perhaps Labour needs another electoral cycle to change perceptions
    left over from the 2017-2023 governments.

    Absolutely, Crash - if they haven't learned from the political
    wizardry of Dirty tricks and now the NZ Taxpayer Union mad all its
    offshoot propaganda sites, and able to coordinate devastating
    political attacks through social media, you have to ask whether they
    are worth having in government ever - gross social media should always
    be unable to get attributed to those lovely people in Power; how can
    you govern a country if you cannot destroy those you do not agree
    with. Being civilised or nice is for losers - Right!, Crash?
    What a perfect example of how not to use sarcasm. Childish, petulant and completely off topic.

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