• Re: How do we get people like this...

    From Phil Hendry's Chop shop@21:1/5 to Tony on Fri Apr 12 16:55:02 2024
    XPost: nz.politics

    On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:18:34 -0000 (UTC)
    Tony <[email protected]> wrote:

    ...telling us what to do? https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate
    change with the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their relationship with Klaus Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly
    the WHO are not tasked with this sort of work. Maybe Trump was right
    to tell them to go away, after all nobody gets it wrong every time.

    +1

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 12 22:18:34 2024
    XPost: nz.politics

    ...telling us what to do? https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate change with the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their relationship with Klaus Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly the WHO are not tasked with this sort of work. Maybe Trump was right to tell them to go away, after all nobody gets it wrong every time.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Tony on Sat Apr 13 00:29:47 2024
    On 2024-04-12, Tony <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...telling us what to do? https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate change with the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their relationship with Klaus
    Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly the WHO are not tasked with this sort of work. Maybe Trump was right to tell them to go away, after all nobody gets it wrong every time.

    https://www.who.int/news/item/20-03-2024-call-for-urgent-agreement-on-international-deal-to-prepare-for-and-prevent-future-pandemics


    What is really important is to not the that the WHO, and WEF are not elected represenstives. They are in the process of doing a power grab as well as a money grab.

    The so called pandemic treaty is up for ratification if this goes ahead it will make the WHO the global Government, certainly in health issues, in such things as lockdowns, mandates for all health matters and the length of the lockdowns.

    They are doing it with the facade of what the WHO was set up todo. However
    it does appear to some people that they are working under the WHO cover to
    do a great power grab as well as get even richer.

    Lets end with this,

    "You cannot comply your way out of a tyranny... Start rebelling. They are
    out to get you if you do not resist."

    German MEP, Christine Anderson: The so-called "pandemic" was a beta test—orchestrated by globalists—to determine how easy it would be to seize totalitarian control, under the pretext of a global "emergency".

    "The goal, ultimately, is to transform our free and democratic societies
    into totalitarian societies. Their goal is to strip each and every one of
    us of our fundamental rights, of freedom, democracy, the rule of law. They
    want to get rid of all of this."

    "In the entire history of mankind, there has never been a political elite concerned about the well-being of regular people, and it isn't any different now."


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtnGntLmPRE

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Apr 13 17:03:12 2024
    On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:18:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    ...telling us what to do? >https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate change with >the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their relationship with Klaus
    Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly the WHO are not tasked with this >sort of work. Maybe Trump was right to tell them to go away, after all nobody >gets it wrong every time.

    Whoever "Wide Awake Media" are, they do not seem to have any common
    sense in saying "Does anybody remember electing this buffoon to
    dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are permissible? Nope, me
    neither." - even small brained idiots should be able to understand
    that the UN has no such authority, nor is that what was being
    proposed.

    Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not
    prepared to name themselves . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Apr 13 06:41:36 2024
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:18:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    ...telling us what to do? >>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate change with >>the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their relationship with >>Klaus
    Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly the WHO are not tasked with this >>sort of work. Maybe Trump was right to tell them to go away, after all nobody >>gets it wrong every time.

    Whoever "Wide Awake Media" are, they do not seem to have any common
    sense in saying "Does anybody remember electing this buffoon to
    dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are permissible? Nope, me >neither." - even small brained idiots should be able to understand
    that the UN has no such authority, nor is that what was being
    proposed.

    Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not
    prepared to name themselves . . .
    Your bullshit is another persons truth - your lack of openmindedness will one day cause you irreparable harm.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Apr 13 19:30:20 2024
    On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 06:41:36 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:18:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    ...telling us what to do? >>>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate change with >>>the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their relationship with >>>Klaus
    Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly the WHO are not tasked with this
    sort of work. Maybe Trump was right to tell them to go away, after all nobody
    gets it wrong every time.

    Whoever "Wide Awake Media" are, they do not seem to have any common
    sense in saying "Does anybody remember electing this buffoon to
    dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are permissible? Nope, me >>neither." - even small brained idiots should be able to understand
    that the UN has no such authority, nor is that what was being
    proposed.

    Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not
    prepared to name themselves . . .
    Your bullshit is another persons truth - your lack of openmindedness will one >day cause you irreparable harm.

    So who is trying to dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are
    permissible, Tony?

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Apr 13 08:37:14 2024
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 06:41:36 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:18:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    ...telling us what to do? >>>>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate change >>>>with
    the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their relationship with >>>>Klaus
    Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly the WHO are not tasked with >>>>this
    sort of work. Maybe Trump was right to tell them to go away, after all >>>>nobody
    gets it wrong every time.

    Whoever "Wide Awake Media" are, they do not seem to have any common
    sense in saying "Does anybody remember electing this buffoon to
    dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are permissible? Nope, me >>>neither." - even small brained idiots should be able to understand
    that the UN has no such authority, nor is that what was being
    proposed.

    Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not
    prepared to name themselves . . .
    Your bullshit is another persons truth - your lack of openmindedness will one >>day cause you irreparable harm.

    So who is trying to dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are >permissible, Tony?
    Since you clearly could not open the link, or could not follow what it tells you perhaps you could get someone to assist. A 5 year old child is my suggestion - they will probably use short simple words.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Apr 13 20:41:55 2024
    On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 08:37:14 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 06:41:36 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:18:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><[email protected]> wrote:

    ...telling us what to do? >>>>>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate change >>>>>with
    the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their relationship with >>>>>Klaus
    Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly the WHO are not tasked with >>>>>this
    sort of work. Maybe Trump was right to tell them to go away, after all >>>>>nobody
    gets it wrong every time.

    Whoever "Wide Awake Media" are, they do not seem to have any common >>>>sense in saying "Does anybody remember electing this buffoon to
    dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are permissible? Nope, me >>>>neither." - even small brained idiots should be able to understand
    that the UN has no such authority, nor is that what was being
    proposed.

    Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not >>>>prepared to name themselves . . .
    Your bullshit is another persons truth - your lack of openmindedness will one
    day cause you irreparable harm.

    So who is trying to dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are >>permissible, Tony?
    Since you clearly could not open the link, or could not follow what it tells >you perhaps you could get someone to assist. A 5 year old child is my >suggestion - they will probably use short simple words.
    Such assistance would clearly be desirable for you, Tony. The speaker
    gave a point of view as to a course of action, but never tried to
    dictate anything.

    He said: "Our food systems are harming the health of people and
    planet. Food systems contribute to over 30% of greenhouse gas
    emissions, and account for almost one third of the global burden of
    disease."

    "Transforming food systems is therefore essential, by shifting towards healthier, diversified and more plant based diets."

    What order or dictate is included in that expression of opinion, Tony?

    You appear to be obsessed with a "Shtrong Leader" telling you what to
    do; clearly Luxon is never going to be that person. Taking your guide
    from "Wide-Awake Media" seems to be where you have gone wrong -
    perhaps you were taking their wrong assertions as your guide - if so
    you are easily led, and still wrong. I have no idea who hides behind
    that label, but it shows the same inane lack of logic that seems
    attractive to "useful idiots" that also follow other dis-information
    sites.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Apr 13 20:05:56 2024
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 08:37:14 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 06:41:36 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:18:34 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><[email protected]> wrote:

    ...telling us what to do? >>>>>>https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1778399070869921960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778399070869921960%7Ctwgr%5E9d2a63510c5d479b7f0cde93739d81174a138024%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaikanaewatch.org%2F
    The WHO got it wrong during covid and are now addressing climate change >>>>>>with
    the same level of scientific authority - ie none! Their relationship with >>>>>>Klaus
    Schwab and the WEF is suspicious and frankly the WHO are not tasked with >>>>>>this
    sort of work. Maybe Trump was right to tell them to go away, after all >>>>>>nobody
    gets it wrong every time.

    Whoever "Wide Awake Media" are, they do not seem to have any common >>>>>sense in saying "Does anybody remember electing this buffoon to >>>>>dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are permissible? Nope, me >>>>>neither." - even small brained idiots should be able to understand >>>>>that the UN has no such authority, nor is that what was being >>>>>proposed.

    Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not >>>>>prepared to name themselves . . .
    Your bullshit is another persons truth - your lack of openmindedness will >>>>one
    day cause you irreparable harm.

    So who is trying to dictate what kind of agriculture and diets are >>>permissible, Tony?
    Since you clearly could not open the link, or could not follow what it tells >>you perhaps you could get someone to assist. A 5 year old child is my >>suggestion - they will probably use short simple words.
    Such assistance would clearly be desirable for you, Tony. The speaker
    gave a point of view as to a course of action, but never tried to
    dictate anything.

    He said: "Our food systems are harming the health of people and
    planet. Food systems contribute to over 30% of greenhouse gas
    emissions, and account for almost one third of the global burden of
    disease."

    "Transforming food systems is therefore essential, by shifting towards >healthier, diversified and more plant based diets."

    What order or dictate is included in that expression of opinion, Tony?
    Your inability to comprehend English is exposed once more. Just read it with an olpen mind for the first time and you might, just might, understand. Go on, trty a first in your life.

    You appear to be obsessed with a "Shtrong Leader" telling you what to
    do; clearly Luxon is never going to be that person. Taking your guide
    from "Wide-Awake Media" seems to be where you have gone wrong -
    perhaps you were taking their wrong assertions as your guide - if so
    you are easily led, and still wrong. I have no idea who hides behind
    that label, but it shows the same inane lack of logic that seems
    attractive to "useful idiots" that also follow other dis-information
    sites.
    Bleat away little pixie, bleat away - but you are wrong. Period.

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  • From BR@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 14 19:20:04 2024
    On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 17:03:12 +1200, Rich80105 <[email protected]>
    wrote:


    Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not
    prepared to name themselves . . .

    You don't name yourself either Rich80105 so you are in no position to
    criticise the anonymity of other people.

    Bill.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Apr 14 22:10:36 2024
    On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 19:20:04 +1200, BR <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 17:03:12 +1200, Rich80105 <[email protected]>
    wrote:


    Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not
    prepared to name themselves . . .

    You don't name yourself either Rich80105 so you are in no position to >criticise the anonymity of other people.

    Bill.

    fair comment Bill - and of course we have no idea if your real name is
    Bill, or if it is which Bill you are.

    There are however a number of relatively new websites or social media
    sites where those posting are careful not to identify themselves - see
    for example

    https://www.facebook.com/GroundswellNZ/

    and that Facebook page does seem to have moved on from many of the
    original Groundswell protests - it does seem to be consistent however
    with the views of some in ACT, National and the NZ Taxpayers Union . .
    .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Apr 14 20:16:42 2024
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 19:20:04 +1200, BR <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 17:03:12 +1200, Rich80105 <[email protected]> >>wrote:


    Interesting that those putting forward all this bullshit are not
    prepared to name themselves . . .

    You don't name yourself either Rich80105 so you are in no position to >>criticise the anonymity of other people.

    Bill.

    fair comment Bill - and of course we have no idea if your real name is
    Bill, or if it is which Bill you are.
    You started it, not Bill!

    There are however a number of relatively new websites or social media
    sites where those posting are careful not to identify themselves - see
    for example

    https://www.facebook.com/GroundswellNZ/

    and that Facebook page does seem to have moved on from many of the
    original Groundswell protests - it does seem to be consistent however
    with the views of some in ACT, National and the NZ Taxpayers Union . . Nonsense.

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