• Australia - how many of our best people will they take?

    From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 7 22:38:42 2024
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350235186/life-infinitely-better-former-kiwi-cop-who-moved-aussie

    Ponder:
    * Apparently the pay offer now being discussed with Police in New
    Zealand is lower than was offered under Labour

    * As Hayden Donnel has said: "Amazing Australia can provide such
    better quality of life when it has unaffordable and economically
    destructive policies like Fair Pay Agreements, capital gains taxes, an
    income tax-free threshold, 45% tax on income over $190k, and a higher
    minimum wage"

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  • From Mutley@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Apr 8 15:37:00 2024
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350235186/life-infinitely-better-former-kiwi-cop-who-moved-aussie

    Ponder:
    * Apparently the pay offer now being discussed with Police in New
    Zealand is lower than was offered under Labour

    Why didn't the police take the payrise under Labor??

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Mutley on Mon Apr 8 05:14:23 2024
    Mutley <[email protected]> wrote:
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350235186/life-infinitely-better-former-kiwi-cop-who-moved-aussie

    Ponder:
    * Apparently the pay offer now being discussed with Police in New
    Zealand is lower than was offered under Labour

    Why didn't the police take the payrise under Labor??
    What an excellent question.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 8 21:53:22 2024
    On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 15:37:00 +1200, Mutley <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350235186/life-infinitely-better-former-kiwi-cop-who-moved-aussie

    Ponder:
    * Apparently the pay offer now being discussed with Police in New
    Zealand is lower than was offered under Labour

    Why didn't the police take the payrise under Labor??

    Because it wasn't enough - and National were offering less than Labour
    - I don't know if that has changed in the last day or so . . .

    Meanwhile we have already lost at lest one experienced cop to
    Australia.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Apr 8 19:36:13 2024
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 15:37:00 +1200, Mutley <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350235186/life-infinitely-better-former-kiwi-cop-who-moved-aussie

    Ponder:
    * Apparently the pay offer now being discussed with Police in New >>>Zealand is lower than was offered under Labour

    Why didn't the police take the payrise under Labor??

    Because it wasn't enough

    - and National were offering less than Labour
    Not at the time under discusiion, National were not in power and could offer nothing. Sheesh!

    - I don't know if that has changed in the last day or so . . .

    Meanwhile we have already lost at lest one experienced cop to
    Australia.
    And I know two that arrived from the UK last month. Swings and roundabouts.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Apr 9 08:16:27 2024
    On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 19:36:13 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 15:37:00 +1200, Mutley <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350235186/life-infinitely-better-former-kiwi-cop-who-moved-aussie

    Ponder:
    * Apparently the pay offer now being discussed with Police in New >>>>Zealand is lower than was offered under Labour

    Why didn't the police take the payrise under Labor??

    Because it wasn't enough

    - and National were offering less than Labour
    Not at the time under discusiion, National were not in power and could offer >nothing. Sheesh!

    So have they settled yet while offering less than Labour had?

    - I don't know if that has changed in the last day or so . . .

    Meanwhile we have already lost at lest one experienced cop to
    Australia.
    And I know two that arrived from the UK last month. Swings and roundabouts. Indeed, but we are still short . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Apr 9 00:04:04 2024
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 19:36:13 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 15:37:00 +1200, Mutley <[email protected]> >>>wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350235186/life-infinitely-better-former-kiwi-cop-who-moved-aussie

    Ponder:
    * Apparently the pay offer now being discussed with Police in New >>>>>Zealand is lower than was offered under Labour

    Why didn't the police take the payrise under Labor??

    Because it wasn't enough

    - and National were offering less than Labour
    Not at the time under discusiion, National were not in power and could offer >>nothing. Sheesh!

    So have they settled yet while offering less than Labour had?
    Settled what?

    - I don't know if that has changed in the last day or so . . .

    Meanwhile we have already lost at lest one experienced cop to
    Australia.
    And I know two that arrived from the UK last month. Swings and roundabouts. >Indeed, but we are still short . . .
    Always have been and always will be - nothing has changed.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Apr 9 15:52:07 2024
    On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 00:04:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 19:36:13 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 15:37:00 +1200, Mutley <[email protected]> >>>>wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350235186/life-infinitely-better-former-kiwi-cop-who-moved-aussie

    Ponder:
    * Apparently the pay offer now being discussed with Police in New >>>>>>Zealand is lower than was offered under Labour

    Why didn't the police take the payrise under Labor??

    Because it wasn't enough

    - and National were offering less than Labour
    Not at the time under discusiion, National were not in power and could offer >>>nothing. Sheesh!

    So have they settled yet while offering less than Labour had?
    Settled what?
    Police pay negotiations . . .


    - I don't know if that has changed in the last day or so . . .

    Meanwhile we have already lost at lest one experienced cop to >>>>Australia.
    And I know two that arrived from the UK last month. Swings and roundabouts. >>Indeed, but we are still short . . .
    Always have been and always will be - nothing has changed.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Apr 9 06:38:23 2024
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 00:04:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 19:36:13 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 15:37:00 +1200, Mutley <[email protected]> >>>>>wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350235186/life-infinitely-better-former-kiwi-cop-who-moved-aussie

    Ponder:
    * Apparently the pay offer now being discussed with Police in New >>>>>>>Zealand is lower than was offered under Labour

    Why didn't the police take the payrise under Labor??

    Because it wasn't enough

    - and National were offering less than Labour
    Not at the time under discusiion, National were not in power and could >>>>offer
    nothing. Sheesh!

    So have they settled yet while offering less than Labour had?
    Settled what?
    Police pay negotiations . . .
    So you changed the subject once more.
    I said National were not in power so could not offer anything. So how could they settle anything back then if they were not the government? Are you talking time travel or some sort of mind warp?


    - I don't know if that has changed in the last day or so . . .

    Meanwhile we have already lost at lest one experienced cop to >>>>>Australia.
    And I know two that arrived from the UK last month. Swings and roundabouts. >>>Indeed, but we are still short . . .
    Always have been and always will be - nothing has changed.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Apr 9 06:50:44 2024
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 06:38:23 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 00:04:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 19:36:13 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 15:37:00 +1200, Mutley <[email protected]> >>>>>>>wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350235186/life-infinitely-better-former-kiwi-cop-who-moved-aussie

    Ponder:
    * Apparently the pay offer now being discussed with Police in New >>>>>>>>>Zealand is lower than was offered under Labour

    Why didn't the police take the payrise under Labor??

    Because it wasn't enough

    - and National were offering less than Labour
    Not at the time under discusiion, National were not in power and could >>>>>>offer
    nothing. Sheesh!

    So have they settled yet while offering less than Labour had?
    Settled what?
    Police pay negotiations . . .
    So you changed the subject once more.
    I said National were not in power so could not offer anything. So how could >>they settle anything back then if they were not the government? Are you >>talking
    time travel or some sort of mind warp?
    The subject was about NZ police moving to Australia, and whether that
    related to the Coalition offering less in pay negotiations than Labour
    had been offering.
    The question was asked whether they had settled - which you did not >understand.
    Wrong.
    I said National were not in power so could not offer anything. So how could they settle anything back then if they were not the government? Are you talking time travel or some sort of mind warp?
    Do pay attention.

    Sarcastic abuse gone.



    - I don't know if that has changed in the last day or so . . .

    Meanwhile we have already lost at lest one experienced cop to >>>>>>>Australia.
    And I know two that arrived from the UK last month. Swings and >>>>>>roundabouts.
    Indeed, but we are still short . . .
    Always have been and always will be - nothing has changed.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Apr 9 18:41:41 2024
    On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 06:38:23 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 00:04:04 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 19:36:13 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 15:37:00 +1200, Mutley <[email protected]> >>>>>>wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350235186/life-infinitely-better-former-kiwi-cop-who-moved-aussie

    Ponder:
    * Apparently the pay offer now being discussed with Police in New >>>>>>>>Zealand is lower than was offered under Labour

    Why didn't the police take the payrise under Labor??

    Because it wasn't enough

    - and National were offering less than Labour
    Not at the time under discusiion, National were not in power and could >>>>>offer
    nothing. Sheesh!

    So have they settled yet while offering less than Labour had?
    Settled what?
    Police pay negotiations . . .
    So you changed the subject once more.
    I said National were not in power so could not offer anything. So how could >they settle anything back then if they were not the government? Are you talking
    time travel or some sort of mind warp?
    The subject was about NZ police moving to Australia, and whether that
    related to the Coalition offering less in pay negotiations than Labour
    had been offering.
    The question was asked whether they had settled - which you did not
    understand.

    You seem to be finding it harder than usual keeping to the subject,
    Tony; Do look after yourself - it is getting harder to get seen by a
    medical professional - whether a GP or in hospital - like the police
    moving to Australia, the new government has reduced confidence for
    many New Zealanders - unless you have lot of rental houses of course!



    - I don't know if that has changed in the last day or so . . .

    Meanwhile we have already lost at lest one experienced cop to >>>>>>Australia.
    And I know two that arrived from the UK last month. Swings and roundabouts.
    Indeed, but we are still short . . .
    Always have been and always will be - nothing has changed.

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