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    From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 4 12:25:24 2023
    https://archive.ph/23WEA

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 3 17:43:30 2023
    On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 12:24:50 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://archive.ph/23WEA

    Whereas a vote for Labour will only result in further division of the races, higher tax and a further failure of democracy!
    There ya go Rich. The other side of the story and a gaurantee of what to expect from a left wing coalition of chaos!

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  • From John Bowes@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 3 17:56:53 2023
    On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 12:24:50 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://archive.ph/23WEA

    Here's some better and honest reading for you Rich:) https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/political-roundup-ten-reasons-labours-support-has-halved/3I3F36OCRFFB3PPCIKZL2TH6VI/

    Of greater interest for you Rich is this from another academic. Someone with a real degree!

    https://democracyproject.nz/2023/10/03/elizabeth-rata-two-treaties-of-waitangi-the-articles-treaty-and-the-principles-treaty/

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Crash on Wed Oct 4 01:11:26 2023
    Crash <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 12:25:24 +1300, Rich80105 <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    https://archive.ph/23WEA

    I get a 'cant reach this page' error in MS Edge.


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    Crash McBash
    It fails in Chrome also. I stopped trying after that.

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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 4 14:03:46 2023
    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 12:25:24 +1300, Rich80105 <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    https://archive.ph/23WEA

    I get a 'cant reach this page' error in MS Edge.


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  • From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 4 15:49:32 2023
    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 15:32:36 +1300, Rich80105 <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 14:03:46 +1300, Crash <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 12:25:24 +1300, Rich80105 <[email protected]> >>wrote:

    https://archive.ph/23WEA

    I get a 'cant reach this page' error in MS Edge.

    I use Google Chrome and it worked for me. It is an Archive page from: >https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/election-2023-nationals-tax-cuts-could-push-interest-rates-up-goldman-sachs-analysts-warn/VB6QT4LQCFFA5HJDPVWQKCQSUA/

    which is behind the paywall - it is possible the Herald does not want
    too many people to read it . . .

    I am a Herald subscriber so got to read it. Nothing new here. Tax
    cuts are supposed to stimulate consumption which is bad for inflation.
    However National will argue that lowering taxation revenue by indexing
    income tax bands is simply restoring to taxpayers their previous
    spending power that was taken away by taxation inflation. Labours
    provisions for GST-exemptions do the same in principal but to a lesser
    extent.

    For the record, I personally oppose reduction of taxation revenue
    until such time as we have made a dent in the huge increase in recent
    years of government debt - because this is the only way to reduce
    exposure to rising debt servicing costs.

    Considering that Labour have presided over substantial interest rate
    rises in the last 3 years, I am surprised you would want to bring this
    up. After all, Labour is not campaigning at all on what has happened
    over the last 3 (or 6) years.


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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Oct 4 02:54:52 2023
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 14:03:46 +1300, Crash <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 12:25:24 +1300, Rich80105 <[email protected]> >>wrote:

    https://archive.ph/23WEA

    I get a 'cant reach this page' error in MS Edge.

    I use Google Chrome and it worked for me.
    Wow that is magic, it does not work in Google Chrome, you must have a very special version of Chrome that has been blessed by the tooth fairy or whoever else you believe in. It also does not work in MS Edge or MS IE or Firefox or Safari.
    It is an Archive page from:
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/election-2023-nationals-tax-cuts-could-push-interest-rates-up-goldman-sachs-analysts-warn/VB6QT4LQCFFA5HJDPVWQKCQSUA/

    which is behind the paywall - it is possible the Herald does not want
    too many people to read it . . .
    Of course they don't, why would a journal want anybody to read what they publish - what a silly idea that would be.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 4 15:32:36 2023
    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 14:03:46 +1300, Crash <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 12:25:24 +1300, Rich80105 <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    https://archive.ph/23WEA

    I get a 'cant reach this page' error in MS Edge.

    I use Google Chrome and it worked for me. It is an Archive page from: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/election-2023-nationals-tax-cuts-could-push-interest-rates-up-goldman-sachs-analysts-warn/VB6QT4LQCFFA5HJDPVWQKCQSUA/

    which is behind the paywall - it is possible the Herald does not want
    too many people to read it . . .

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Oct 4 03:32:58 2023
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 02:54:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 14:03:46 +1300, Crash <[email protected]d> >>>wrote:

    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 12:25:24 +1300, Rich80105 <[email protected]> >>>>wrote:

    https://archive.ph/23WEA

    I get a 'cant reach this page' error in MS Edge.

    I use Google Chrome and it worked for me.
    Wow that is magic, it does not work in Google Chrome, you must have a very >>special version of Chrome that has been blessed by the tooth fairy or whoever >>else you believe in. It also does not work in MS Edge or MS IE or Firefox or >>Safari.

    I use Version 117.0.5938.150 (Official Build) (64-bit). Perhaps yours
    is out of date, but it may be just an IDtenT error . . ..
    No that is you to a "T". As mentioned it does not work with 5 different browsers. You are making shit up again.


    It is an Archive page from: >>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/election-2023-nationals-tax-cuts-could-push-interest-rates-up-goldman-sachs-analysts-warn/VB6QT4LQCFFA5HJDPVWQKCQSUA/

    which is behind the paywall - it is possible the Herald does not want
    too many people to read it . . .
    Of course they don't, why would a journal want anybody to read what they >>publish - what a silly idea that would be.

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  • From JohnO@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 3 20:31:36 2023
    On Wednesday, 4 October 2023 at 15:31:58 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 14:03:46 +1300, Crash <[email protected]d>
    wrote:
    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 12:25:24 +1300, Rich80105 <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    https://archive.ph/23WEA

    I get a 'cant reach this page' error in MS Edge.
    I use Google Chrome and it worked for me. It is an Archive page from: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/election-2023-nationals-tax-cuts-could-push-interest-rates-up-goldman-sachs-analysts-warn/VB6QT4LQCFFA5HJDPVWQKCQSUA/

    which is behind the paywall - it is possible the Herald does not want
    too many people to read it . . .
    You think the Herald puts something on its website that they "don't want too many people to read" ... do you have any idea how stupid you sound?

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Oct 4 16:16:14 2023
    On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 02:54:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 14:03:46 +1300, Crash <[email protected]d> >>wrote:

    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 12:25:24 +1300, Rich80105 <[email protected]> >>>wrote:

    https://archive.ph/23WEA

    I get a 'cant reach this page' error in MS Edge.

    I use Google Chrome and it worked for me.
    Wow that is magic, it does not work in Google Chrome, you must have a very >special version of Chrome that has been blessed by the tooth fairy or whoever >else you believe in. It also does not work in MS Edge or MS IE or Firefox or >Safari.

    I use Version 117.0.5938.150 (Official Build) (64-bit). Perhaps yours
    is out of date, but it may be just an IDtenT error . . ..


    It is an Archive page from: >>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/election-2023-nationals-tax-cuts-could-push-interest-rates-up-goldman-sachs-analysts-warn/VB6QT4LQCFFA5HJDPVWQKCQSUA/

    which is behind the paywall - it is possible the Herald does not want
    too many people to read it . . .
    Of course they don't, why would a journal want anybody to read what they >publish - what a silly idea that would be.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Oct 4 18:52:58 2023
    On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 03:32:58 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 02:54:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 14:03:46 +1300, Crash <[email protected]d> >>>>wrote:

    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 12:25:24 +1300, Rich80105 <[email protected]> >>>>>wrote:

    https://archive.ph/23WEA

    I get a 'cant reach this page' error in MS Edge.

    I use Google Chrome and it worked for me.
    Wow that is magic, it does not work in Google Chrome, you must have a very >>>special version of Chrome that has been blessed by the tooth fairy or whoever
    else you believe in. It also does not work in MS Edge or MS IE or Firefox or >>>Safari.

    I use Version 117.0.5938.150 (Official Build) (64-bit). Perhaps yours
    is out of date, but it may be just an IDtenT error . . ..
    No that is you to a "T". As mentioned it does not work with 5 different >browsers. You are making shit up again.

    Yep - you are having an ID10T problem, Tony . . .

    To summarise for you :
    Goldman Sachs:
    - warns Nat�s tax cuts risk exacerbating inflation, putting upward
    pressure on interest rates
    - questions if Nat would be able to make proposed spending cuts
    - doesn't think removing employment from the RBNZ's mandate would make
    a difference.

    I expect your browser will prevent you from seeing this: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/10/mayor-wayne-brown-says-campaign-promises-from-national-will-leave-auckland-worse-off.html

    So National are going to stop collecting the Regional Fuel tax but
    still meet the costs of the projects it was being used for - Brown
    supports removing the regional tax but only if it is replaced with
    other funding, without which there would be "a large pothole in the
    transport budget". This would see rates rise by 7 percent or force the cancellation of $2.4b worth of transport projects.

    Then there are the people that don't matter to National: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/election-2023-how-much-nzs-350000-beneficiaries-will-miss-out-on-under-nationals-changes/37M33ZQSBBC6ZJHQNDFU5SY2TA/

    Do let us know if your browser refuses to look at that one too, Tony!



    It is an Archive page from: >>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/election-2023-nationals-tax-cuts-could-push-interest-rates-up-goldman-sachs-analysts-warn/VB6QT4LQCFFA5HJDPVWQKCQSUA/

    which is behind the paywall - it is possible the Herald does not want >>>>too many people to read it . . .
    Of course they don't, why would a journal want anybody to read what they >>>publish - what a silly idea that would be.

    And here is another test for your 5 different browsers, Tony:

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/rob-campbell-the-opinion-piece-that-i-have-been-dreading-to-pen-maori-health-and-the-serious-consequences-we-face/SNWXGKKQEFH4LLDWY2DS7JSNXQ/

    The following video is only an extract of an interview - does anyone
    have a url for the full interview? https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1708752874216493546

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Tony on Wed Oct 4 07:01:33 2023
    On 2023-10-04, Tony <[email protected]> wrote:
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 02:54:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 14:03:46 +1300, Crash <[email protected]d> >>>>wrote:

    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 12:25:24 +1300, Rich80105 <[email protected]> >>>>>wrote:

    https://archive.ph/23WEA

    I get a 'cant reach this page' error in MS Edge.

    I use Google Chrome and it worked for me.
    Wow that is magic, it does not work in Google Chrome, you must have a very >>>special version of Chrome that has been blessed by the tooth fairy or whoever
    else you believe in. It also does not work in MS Edge or MS IE or Firefox or >>>Safari.

    I use Version 117.0.5938.150 (Official Build) (64-bit). Perhaps yours
    is out of date, but it may be just an IDtenT error . . ..
    No that is you to a "T". As mentioned it does not work with 5 different browsers. You are making shit up again.

    For me it works with Brave, and Firefox.

    Maybe it is the time of day.



    It is an Archive page from: >>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/election-2023-nationals-tax-cuts-could-push-interest-rates-up-goldman-sachs-analysts-warn/VB6QT4LQCFFA5HJDPVWQKCQSUA/

    which is behind the paywall - it is possible the Herald does not want >>>>too many people to read it . . .
    Of course they don't, why would a journal want anybody to read what they >>>publish - what a silly idea that would be.


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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Oct 4 19:14:59 2023
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 03:32:58 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 02:54:52 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 14:03:46 +1300, Crash <[email protected]d> >>>>>wrote:

    On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 12:25:24 +1300, Rich80105 <[email protected]> >>>>>>wrote:

    https://archive.ph/23WEA

    I get a 'cant reach this page' error in MS Edge.

    I use Google Chrome and it worked for me.
    Wow that is magic, it does not work in Google Chrome, you must have a very >>>>special version of Chrome that has been blessed by the tooth fairy or >>>>whoever
    else you believe in. It also does not work in MS Edge or MS IE or Firefox >>>>or
    Safari.

    I use Version 117.0.5938.150 (Official Build) (64-bit). Perhaps yours
    is out of date, but it may be just an IDtenT error . . ..
    No that is you to a "T". As mentioned it does not work with 5 different >>browsers. You are making shit up again.

    Yep - you are having an ID10T problem, Tony . . .
    No your link was defective and you should stick to your crayons rather than playing with grown up's toys.

    irrelevant stuff removed.


    It is an Archive page from: >>>>>https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/election-2023-nationals-tax-cuts-could-push-interest-rates-up-goldman-sachs-analysts-warn/VB6QT4LQCFFA5HJDPVWQKCQSUA/

    which is behind the paywall - it is possible the Herald does not want >>>>>too many people to read it . . .
    Of course they don't, why would a journal want anybody to read what they >>>>publish - what a silly idea that would be.

    And here is another test for your 5 different browsers, Tony:

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/rob-campbell-the-opinion-piece-that-i-have-been-dreading-to-pen-maori-health-and-the-serious-consequences-we-face/SNWXGKKQEFH4LLDWY2DS7JSNXQ/

    The following video is only an extract of an interview - does anyone
    have a url for the full interview? >https://twitter.com/rugbyintel/status/1708752874216493546

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