On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 2:39:10 PM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:

Its parliamentary co-leader is not a fan of democracy: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/07/not-in-a-democracy-m-ori-party-co-leader-rawiri-waititi-outlines-his-vision-for-a-tiriti-centric-aotearoa-where-the-majority-doesn-t-rule-over-m-ori.html

And it's party leader John Tamahere, you know the one who victim-shamed the roast-busters victims, the self declared homophobe, anti-semite, the one who complained that Labour was run by "front bums". What a charming party leader. Oh, and he appears to

have misused charity funds for political purposes and has been cruel to animals.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/01/john-tamihere-s-most-controversial-moments.html

Ad then there's this: https://theplatform.kiwi/podcasts/episode/heated-text-exchange-with-maori-party-president-john-tamihere

Yet the Labour Party would entertain the idea of going into coalition with these shits?

The way their polling is going Tamahere and Waititi should disappear from the political scene about Oct 16...

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Its parliamentary co-leader is not a fan of democracy: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/07/not-in-a-democracy-m-ori-party-co-leader-rawiri-waititi-outlines-his-vision-for-a-tiriti-centric-aotearoa-where-the-majority-doesn-t-rule-over-m-ori.html

And it's party leader John Tamahere, you know the one who victim-shamed the roast-busters victims, the self declared homophobe, anti-semite, the one who complained that Labour was run by "front bums". What a charming party leader. Oh, and he appears to
have misused charity funds for political purposes and has been cruel to animals.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/01/john-tamihere-s-most-controversial-moments.html

Ad then there's this: https://theplatform.kiwi/podcasts/episode/heated-text-exchange-with-maori-party-president-john-tamihere

Yet the Labour Party would entertain the idea of going into coalition with these shits?

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On 2023-10-03, JohnO <[email protected]> wrote:

Its parliamentary co-leader is not a fan of democracy: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/07/not-in-a-democracy-m-ori-party-co-leader-rawiri-waititi-outlines-his-vision-for-a-tiriti-centric-aotearoa-where-the-majority-doesn-t-rule-over-m-ori.html

And it's party leader John Tamahere, you know the one who victim-shamed the roast-busters victims, the self declared homophobe, anti-semite, the one who complained that Labour was run by "front bums". What a charming party leader. Oh, and he appears to

have misused charity funds for political purposes and has been cruel to animals.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/01/john-tamihere-s-most-controversial-moments.html

Ad then there's this: https://theplatform.kiwi/podcasts/episode/heated-text-exchange-with-maori-party-president-john-tamihere

Yet the Labour Party would entertain the idea of going into coalition with these shits?

There is a saying about making a deal with the devil.

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JohnO <[email protected]> wrote:

Its parliamentary co-leader is not a fan of democracy: >https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/07/not-in-a-democracy-m-ori-party-co-leader-rawiri-waititi-outlines-his-vision-for-a-tiriti-centric-aotearoa-where-the-majority-doesn-t-rule-over-m-ori.html

And it's party leader John Tamahere, you know the one who victim-shamed the roast-busters victims, the self declared homophobe, anti-semite, the one who complained that Labour was run by "front bums". What a charming party leader. Oh, and he appears to

have misused charity funds for political purposes and has been cruel to animals.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/01/john-tamihere-s-most-controversial-moments.html

Ad then there's this: >https://theplatform.kiwi/podcasts/episode/heated-text-exchange-with-maori-party-president-john-tamihere

Yet the Labour Party would entertain the idea of going into coalition with these shits?

Here's hoping that this pack of racist don't get into parliament this
time.

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On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 14:07:00 +1300, Mutley <[email protected]>
wrote:

JohnO <[email protected]> wrote:

Its parliamentary co-leader is not a fan of democracy: >>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/07/not-in-a-democracy-m-ori-party-co-leader-rawiri-waititi-outlines-his-vision-for-a-tiriti-centric-aotearoa-where-the-majority-doesn-t-rule-over-m-ori.html

And it's party leader John Tamahere, you know the one who victim-shamed the roast-busters victims, the self declared homophobe, anti-semite, the one who complained that Labour was run by "front bums". What a charming party leader. Oh, and he appears to

have misused charity funds for political purposes and has been cruel to animals.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/01/john-tamihere-s-most-controversial-moments.html

Ad then there's this: >>https://theplatform.kiwi/podcasts/episode/heated-text-exchange-with-maori-party-president-john-tamihere

Yet the Labour Party would entertain the idea of going into coalition with these shits?

Here's hoping that this pack of racist don't get into parliament this
time.

They will - because they can win a Maori electorate. Waititi won
Waiariki with 12389 votes of 27699 cast. Ngarewa-Packer got in from
their list because of the 1.2% party vote for TPM


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Crash McBash

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On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 14:07:00 +1300, Mutley <[email protected]>
wrote:

JohnO <[email protected]> wrote:

Its parliamentary co-leader is not a fan of democracy: >>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/07/not-in-a-democracy-m-ori-party-co-leader-rawiri-waititi-outlines-his-vision-for-a-tiriti-centric-aotearoa-where-the-majority-doesn-t-rule-over-m-ori.html

And it's party leader John Tamahere, you know the one who victim-shamed the roast-busters victims, the self declared homophobe, anti-semite, the one who complained that Labour was run by "front bums". What a charming party leader. Oh, and he appears to

have misused charity funds for political purposes and has been cruel to animals.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/01/john-tamihere-s-most-controversial-moments.html

Ad then there's this: >>https://theplatform.kiwi/podcasts/episode/heated-text-exchange-with-maori-party-president-john-tamihere

Yet the Labour Party would entertain the idea of going into coalition with these shits?

Here's hoping that this pack of racist don't get into parliament this
time.

I agree Mutley - I can't see the current National Party producing a
productive Treaty Negotiations Minister of the calibre of Doug Graham,
Michael Cullen, Chris Finlayson or Andrew Little; and ACT would prefer
to just stop all settlements.

Two articles that may have some relevance: https://thestandard.org.nz/should-you-be-more-worried-about-co-governance-or-the-top-1/

and one comment from the discussion worth repeating: "I am pro
co-governance practically speaking, because according to people I
know, co-governance or similar arrangements have always resulted in
decisions being pushed in the direction of long-term thinking. I would
like opponents of co-governance to tell me where else that perspective
will come from if the concept is binned.

Some people just don�t think that ethnicity should be the basis of any allocation of power or resources. This is a perfectly ethical position
to take and I would defend the rights of anyone who takes this
position. Characterising all opponents of co-governance as fascist
rednecks is silly, disrespectful, and contributes to political
polarisation for no real benefit.


Another article that may have some relevance: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/03/donald-trump-supporters-judges-prosecutors

The political position of National (and perhaps even more so ACT) does
appear to be fairly firmly based on Trumpism, featuring lies and
hyperbole about opponents, overwhelming negativism about everything
done by government, and a clear acceptance, and celebration of,
incompetence from supporters . . .

The blatant racism from Luxon in particular will be very disappointing
to many long term National Party members; but as always National are
prepared to lose a lot of principles so long as they can get elected .
. .

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On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 4:01:38 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:

On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 14:07:00 +1300, Mutley <[email protected]>
wrote:

JohnO <[email protected]> wrote:

Its parliamentary co-leader is not a fan of democracy: >>https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/07/not-in-a-democracy-m-ori-party-co-leader-rawiri-waititi-outlines-his-vision-for-a-tiriti-centric-aotearoa-where-the-majority-doesn-t-rule-over-m-ori.html

And it's party leader John Tamahere, you know the one who victim-shamed the roast-busters victims, the self declared homophobe, anti-semite, the one who complained that Labour was run by "front bums". What a charming party leader. Oh, and he appears

to have misused charity funds for political purposes and has been cruel to animals.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/01/john-tamihere-s-most-controversial-moments.html

Ad then there's this: >>https://theplatform.kiwi/podcasts/episode/heated-text-exchange-with-maori-party-president-john-tamihere

Yet the Labour Party would entertain the idea of going into coalition with these shits?

Here's hoping that this pack of racist don't get into parliament this >time.

I agree Mutley - I can't see the current National Party producing a productive Treaty Negotiations Minister of the calibre of Doug Graham, Michael Cullen, Chris Finlayson or Andrew Little; and ACT would prefer
to just stop all settlements.

Two articles that may have some relevance: https://thestandard.org.nz/should-you-be-more-worried-about-co-governance-or-the-top-1/

and one comment from the discussion worth repeating: "I am pro
co-governance practically speaking, because according to people I
know, co-governance or similar arrangements have always resulted in decisions being pushed in the direction of long-term thinking. I would
like opponents of co-governance to tell me where else that perspective
will come from if the concept is binned.

Some people just don’t think that ethnicity should be the basis of any allocation of power or resources. This is a perfectly ethical position
to take and I would defend the rights of anyone who takes this
position. Characterising all opponents of co-governance as fascist
rednecks is silly, disrespectful, and contributes to political
polarisation for no real benefit.

Another article that may have some relevance: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/03/donald-trump-supporters-judges-prosecutors

The political position of National (and perhaps even more so ACT) does appear to be fairly firmly based on Trumpism, featuring lies and
hyperbole about opponents, overwhelming negativism about everything
done by government, and a clear acceptance, and celebration of,
incompetence from supporters . . .

You've just described your very own Labour party to a T! Well sone Rich. You've just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt your a typical left feral bastard!

The blatant racism from Luxon in particular will be very disappointing
to many long term National Party members; but as always National are prepared to lose a lot of principles so long as they can get elected .
. .

Blatant racism from National? Don't be a stupider fucking imbecile than usual Rich! The racisim is all yours and Labours!

Rich you need to read this before you make an even bigger fool of yourself than usual! The author has some real credentials unlike the imaginary ones of you and Shaw :)
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/political-roundup-ten-reasons-labours-support-has-halved/3I3F36OCRFFB3PPCIKZL2TH6VI/

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------------------------> ZELANDT

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AND IT THEN SPREAD LIKE WILD-FIRE.

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OF THAT PAAKEHAA INTRODUCED MONGOOSE DISEASE,
THE:

---------------------------> ZELANDT.

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PIECE OF SHIT NAME.

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