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  • The Leaders debate: volume 1

    From Crash@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 22:06:42 2023
    Both leaders delivered some telling blows: neither delivered telling
    punch.

    A reasonably civil affair: both sides got their message across. Both
    Hipkins and Luxon scored from time to time. There was no major debate
    on co-governance as enshrined in the water reforms though.

    Nothing here to sway decided voters. Undecided's will probably await
    future debates.


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    Crash McBash

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  • From JohnO@21:1/5 to Crash on Tue Sep 19 13:53:22 2023
    On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 22:06:37 UTC+12, Crash wrote:
    Both leaders delivered some telling blows: neither delivered telling
    punch.

    A reasonably civil affair: both sides got their message across. Both
    Hipkins and Luxon scored from time to time. There was no major debate
    on co-governance as enshrined in the water reforms though.

    Nothing here to sway decided voters. Undecided's will probably await
    future debates.


    --
    Crash McBash

    I think that was Chippy's last chance. It was an opportunity for a seasoned politician to put a newbie in his place, but Chippy was passive, got no Labour policy messages out and just tried to criticise National policy - a negative style consistent with
    their campaign to date.

    This alone made the debate a win to National. Labour are dead and buried.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Crash on Tue Sep 19 21:10:56 2023
    Crash <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Both leaders delivered some telling blows: neither delivered telling
    punch.

    A reasonably civil affair: both sides got their message across. Both
    Hipkins and Luxon scored from time to time. There was no major debate
    on co-governance as enshrined in the water reforms though.

    Nothing here to sway decided voters. Undecided's will probably await
    future debates.

    The whole affair was pretty bland I thought apart from the first 5 minutes which was best forgotten.
    Altogether a waste of time.

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  • From Willy Nilly@21:1/5 to Crash on Tue Sep 19 20:21:35 2023
    On Tue, 19 Sep 2023, Crash <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Nothing here to sway decided voters. Undecided's will probably await
    future debates.

    I should expect the undecideds to be choosing between ACT and NZF.

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  • From James Christophers@21:1/5 to Tony on Tue Sep 19 16:13:53 2023
    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:10:58 AM UTC+12, Tony wrote:
    Crash <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Both leaders delivered some telling blows: neither delivered telling >punch.

    A reasonably civil affair: both sides got their message across. Both >Hipkins and Luxon scored from time to time. There was no major debate
    on co-governance as enshrined in the water reforms though.

    Nothing here to sway decided voters. Undecided's will probably await >future debates.

    The whole affair was pretty bland I thought apart from the first 5 minutes which was best forgotten.
    Altogether a waste of time.

    Inevitable. In TVNZ's unsurprisingly low-rent offering, the viewer was confronted by two notoriously anodyne candidates, both of them patently bereft of any inspiration, style or imagination; plus an anchor so unmannerly and inexperienced as to
    persistently interrupt them while they were speaking.

    A formless, self-defeating bugger's muddle that stymied even the faintest hope of there being a "winner" as such. But there was undoubtedly a loser:

    The viewer.

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