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    From Lars Anders@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 25 08:00:32 2022
    New to 40tude Dialog.
    I am the only user of the pc.
    I do not care about hiding the password.
    When I type server login password into Dialog the password is asterisked.
    That is OK but then I need to keep a separate file for the real text.
    That is OK again.
    But is there an easy way to turn OFF the Dialog password asterisks?

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  • From Bernd Rose@21:1/5 to Lars Anders on Tue Jan 25 18:04:05 2022
    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 08:00:32 +0100, Lars Anders wrote:

    is there an easy way to turn OFF the Dialog password asterisks?

    Not permanently. But there are programs which let you take a peek
    at the current entry. One (NirSoft BulletsPassView) is mentioned
    in the German FAQ for 40tude Dialog:

    https://www.barghahn-online.de/4td_faq/sicherheit.php#passwort
    Automatic translation: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://www.barghahn-online.de/4td_faq/sicherheit.php#passwort

    BulletsPassView:
    http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/bullets_password_view.html

    HTH.
    Bernd

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  • From Lars Anders@21:1/5 to Bernd Rose on Tue Jan 25 21:32:17 2022
    On 25 Jan 2022, Bernd Rose <[email protected]> wrote :

    BulletsPassView:
    http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/bullets_password_view.html

    I keeped trying after I hitted every buttons popups in the Windows Virus Defender to download http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/bulletspassview.zip

    It worked!
    Thanks, Bernd.
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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Lars Anders on Tue Jan 25 15:30:09 2022
    Lars Anders wrote:

    New to 40tude Dialog.
    I am the only user of the pc.
    I do not care about hiding the password.
    When I type server login password into Dialog the password is asterisked. That is OK but then I need to keep a separate file for the real text.
    That is OK again.
    But is there an easy way to turn OFF the Dialog password asterisks?

    Save the password in the account you define in Dialog. Don't leave it
    blank (I wasn't even aware it could be left blank to keep getting
    re-prompted as you indicate). Then you never have to enter login
    credentials when connecting to an NNTP server. You'll only have to add
    the password to the account definition just the once when you create the account definition in Dialog.

    That does not preclude keeping a protected (encrypted) password list
    somewhere. Whether passwords are shown or not, you may need to reenter
    them later, like for a new instance of Dialog for a new computer setup.
    If you need to change the account's password (on the server), like you
    got hacked, you may need the old password to change to a new password. Regardless of shown or not in apps or dialogs, you'll still need to keep
    a record of passwords.

    God forbid you're using the same password at every site. That is a
    formula for getting hacked. If one site you visit gets hacked, your
    common password can be used to hack across many sites trying to find
    your accounts over there. Every site should get a *unique* password.
    Don't share passwords across sites.

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  • From Sergio Lopez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 27 00:43:12 2022
    El martes, 25 de enero de 2022 a la(s) 1:00:47 a. m. UTC-6, Lars Anders escribió:
    New to 40tude Dialog.
    I am the only user of the pc.
    I do not care about hiding the password.
    When I type server login password into Dialog the password is asterisked. That is OK but then I need to keep a separate file for the real text.
    That is OK again.
    But is there an easy way to turn OFF the Dialog password asterisks?

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  • From Lars Anders@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Fri Jan 28 05:24:16 2022
    On 25 Jan 2022, VanguardLH <[email protected]> wrote :

    Save the password in the account you define in Dialog. Don't leave it
    blank (I wasn't even aware it could be left blank to keep getting
    re-prompted as you indicate).

    I do not want to save the password elsewhere than in Dialog newsreader.
    The nntp server password is not important to hide from nobody see it.

    That does not preclude keeping a protected (encrypted) password list somewhere.

    I could save the password for the NNTP server in a regular file.
    It is not so important to hide.
    No one looks at your shoulder.

    But it's easier now.
    I can drive Nirsoft BulletSpassview when I want seeing the password.

    Whether passwords are shown or not, you may need to reenter
    them later, like for a new instance of Dialog for a new computer setup.

    This is where the not knowing password problem will be the worst.
    It is better if dialog is just display the password with an instant look.

    If you need to change the account's password (on the server), like you
    got hacked, you may need the old password to change to a new password. Regardless of shown or not in apps or dialogs, you'll still need to keep
    a record of passwords.

    I no longer need to save a password in plain text in extra new file.
    This is because I can now view the password using Nirsoft BulletSpassview.

    God forbid you're using the same password at every site. That is a
    formula for getting hacked. If one site you visit gets hacked, your
    common password can be used to hack across many sites trying to find
    your accounts over there. Every site should get a *unique* password.
    Don't share passwords across sites.

    Do not worry it.
    Most administrators of Usenet servers assign you a password.
    You may not choose which password they assign you.

    It is not important what password it use.

    Thank you VanguardLH!

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Lars Anders on Fri Jan 28 03:17:26 2022
    Lars Anders wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote :

    Save the password in the account you define in Dialog. Don't leave
    it blank (I wasn't even aware it could be left blank to keep getting
    re-prompted as you indicate).

    I do not want to save the password elsewhere than in Dialog
    newsreader.

    That's where I said to save the password. Getting prompted to reenter
    the password means it wasn't saved in the Dialog account definition.
    How often are you entering a password to use a Usenet provider?

    Whether passwords are shown or not, you may need to reenter
    them later, like for a new instance of Dialog for a new computer setup.

    This is where the not knowing password problem will be the worst.
    It is better if dialog is just display the password with an instant look.

    If you're doing a new install of Dialog (on the same or different
    computer), just where is the old instance going to be available for you
    to peek at the server config to see the old password?

    If you need to change the account's password (on the server), like you
    got hacked, you may need the old password to change to a new password.
    Regardless of shown or not in apps or dialogs, you'll still need to keep
    a record of passwords.

    I no longer need to save a password in plain text in extra new file.
    This is because I can now view the password using Nirsoft BulletSpassview.

    Not if you're not at the computer with it powered on, booted up, load
    Dialog, and run the Nirsoft tool. If you're elsewhere and using a web
    client to access your Usenet account to change the password, you don't
    have your computer, Dialog, and Nirsoft to see the old password that you
    need to change.

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