• charset bug in slrn, or bad config?

    From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to Bob on Wed Jan 10 15:35:51 2024
    Hi all,

    I'm hoping for some help in resolving a sporadic issue with
    charset rendering in slrn.

    I'm using slrn 1.0.3 on a BSD shell at panix.com (via PuTTY on a
    Windows laptop), and the relevant bits of my .slrnrc file are
    here...

    % charset display iso-8859-1
    charset display utf-8

    % set fallback_charset "utf-8"
    set fallback_charset "iso-8859-1"

    % set editor_command "nano -b -r 66"
    set editor_command "pico -z -t -r66 -Q \"> \" %s"
    charset editor "utf-8"


    What is most noticeably causing problems is a quote character (")
    that leads the subject header from some posters. When I view it
    in the article window, all is fine. When I open the thread, the
    character rendering changes in the article list (but the article
    view is fine), and when I start a reply, the character rendering
    is also wonky.

    Any ideas for me? Details follow to illustrate the issue.

    Ted



    When I open the group I see this...

    slrn 1.0.3 ** Press '?' for help, 'q' to quit. ** Server: news.panix.com
    1! - 7777 14:[Bob ] 2 “One choice that may have saved them”
    - 1:[Rob D. ] 3 Forthcoming book.


    When I select the first thread, I see this...

    D 14:[Bob ] <80><9C>One choice that may have saved them”
    2! - 7777 22:[theise ] └─Re: “One choice that mahave saved them”
    3 - 1:[Rob D. ] 3 Forthcoming book.

    [4/5 unread] Group: alt.recovery.aa --
    1/3 (All)
    Path: reader1.panix.com!panix!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-septe
    From: Bob <[email protected]d>
    Newsgroups: alt.recovery.aa
    Subject: “One choice that may have saved them”
    Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:16:18 -0000 (UTC)
    Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
    Lines: 14
    Message-ID: <un9rj1$9ntp$[email protected]>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    Injection-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:16:18 -0000 (UTC)
    Injection-Info: dont-email.me;
    posting-host="f0973158ae889fef4b03117110203040";
    User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad)
    Cancel-Lock: sha1:7KYzfQsiq+C546SojExx7ENBj7w= sha1:OzZWTubwE2DlcspCwDPG8D69Qw4=
    Xref: panix alt.recovery.aa:1001546


    When I start a follow-up article, I see this…

    Newsgroups: alt.recovery.aa
    From: Ted Heise <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: ??One choice that may have saved them”
    References: <un9rj1$9ntp$[email protected]>
    Organization: My own, such as it is
    Followup-To:

    On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:16:18 -0000 (UTC),
    Bob <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Path: reader1.panix.com!panix!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-s$
    From: Bob <[email protected]d>
    Newsgroups: alt.recovery.aa
    Subject: “One choice that may have saved them”
    Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:16:18 -0000 (UTC)
    Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
    Lines: 14
    Message-ID: <un9rj1$9ntp$[email protected]>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    Injection-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:16:18 -0000 (UTC)
    Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f0973158ae889fef4b0311711020304$
    User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad)
    Cancel-Lock: sha1:7KYzfQsiq+C546SojExx7ENBj7w=sha1:OzZWTubwE2DlcspCwDPG8D69$
    Xref: panix alt.recovery.aa:1001546


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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+MiPCfkpDwn4y78J+MuvCfj@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 11 14:58:20 2024
    On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 15:35:51 -0000 (UTC), LO AND BEHOLD; Ted Heise <[email protected]> determined that the following was of not great
    importance to Ted Heise <[email protected]> and subsequently decided to
    NOT freely share it with us in
    <[email protected]>:

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    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I'm hoping for some help in resolving a sporadic issue with charset
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= rendering in slrn. =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I'm using slrn 1.0.3 on a BSD shell at panix.com (via PuTTY on a Windows
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= laptop), and the relevant bits of my .slrnrc file are here...
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= % charset display iso-8859-1 charset display utf-8
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= % set fallback_charset "utf-8" set fallback_charset "iso-8859-1"
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= % set editor_command "nano -b -r 66" set editor_command "pico -z -t -r66
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    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= What is most noticeably causing problems is a quote character (") that
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    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= article window, all is fine. When I open the thread, the character
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    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= and when I start a reply, the character rendering is also wonky.
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    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Any ideas for me? Details follow to illustrate the issue.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Ted
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    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
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    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= slrn 1.0.3 ** Press '?' for help, 'q' to quit. ** Server: news.panix.com
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 1! - 7777 14:[Bob ] 2 “One choice that may have saved
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= them” -> - 1:[Rob D. ] 3 Forthcoming book.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
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    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= -> D 14:[Bob ] <80><9C>One choice that may have saved
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    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= [4/5 unread] Group: alt.recovery.aa -- 1/3
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= (All) Path:
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    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Subject: “One choice that may have saved them” Date: Fri, 5 Jan
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 2024 21:16:18 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
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    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Injection-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:16:18 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info:
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    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Newsgroups: alt.recovery.aa From: Ted Heise <[email protected]> Subject:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Re: ??One choice that may have saved them” References:
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    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Subject: “One choice that may have saved them” Date: Fri, 5 Jan
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    Must be a bug.

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Sat Jan 13 17:00:51 2024
    On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 15:35:51 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <[email protected]> wrote:

    Hi all,

    I'm hoping for some help in resolving a sporadic issue with
    charset rendering in slrn.

    I'm using slrn 1.0.3 on a BSD shell at panix.com (via PuTTY on a
    Windows laptop), and the relevant bits of my .slrnrc file are
    here...

    % charset display iso-8859-1
    charset display utf-8

    % set fallback_charset "utf-8"
    set fallback_charset "iso-8859-1"

    % set editor_command "nano -b -r 66"
    set editor_command "pico -z -t -r66 -Q \"> \" %s"
    charset editor "utf-8"


    What is most noticeably causing problems is a quote character (")
    that leads the subject header from some posters. When I view it
    in the article window, all is fine. When I open the thread, the
    character rendering changes in the article list (but the article
    view is fine), and when I start a reply, the character rendering
    is also wonky.

    I think this has been resolved. An admin at my ISP noted that the
    installed slrn was in fact 1.0.3a, it just didn't idenytify itself
    with the trailing "a."

    More to the point, he also noticed that it was an old 32-bit
    build. He made a new build at 64 bits and using newer libraries
    (especially slang). The character rendering seems to be good now.

    --
    Ted Heise <[email protected]> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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