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  • Re: Does 40tude Dialog run decently on any =?UTF-8?B?TGluaXg/?=

    From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to Bernd Rose on Fri Nov 3 17:10:10 2023
    Bernd Rose wrote:

    On Fri, 3rd Nov 2023 06:43:23 -0700, Retro Guy wrote:

    I just checked my install (2.0.15.1 b38

    The whole branch of 2.0.15.x is "Beta 38". The latter being just another numbering scheme. No non-beta version of Dialog exists. But Dialog "beta" versions were always more stable than quiet a few "release" versions of
    other programs.

    I recommend replacing your Dialog.exe subversion .1 with the one from .41, because the latter addressed some (minor) bugs:

    Direct download from the FAQ site: https://www.barghahn-online.de/4td_faq/download/dialog_41.zip

    I've upgraded, thanks!

    snip

    The only issue I have with 40tude is that it always says I can't post when >> creating a message (says it's a read-only newsgroup), but it posts it
    anyway.

    Read-only should only be set to a group, when the server relays this in
    its group list. Select the/one group, that triggers above message and
    click the "Settings" menu while keeping <Strg><Shift> pressed down. This should show the new (debug) menu entry "Selected group/article info...".

    Check the "Postingallowed" status setting of the group. If it is TRUE,
    than the error is triggered elsewhere. If it is FALSE, OTOH, you could
    test, whether updating the group list ("Online" menu) for the server in question helps...

    It shows as FALSE. Updated the group list but no change. I'll take a deeper look to find the issue, but at least I can post :)

    Thanks for your help!

    --
    Retro Guy

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  • From Bernd Rose@21:1/5 to Retro Guy on Fri Nov 3 21:08:38 2023
    On Fri, 3rd Nov 2023 17:10:10 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    [Group(s) with status "Postingallowed"=FALSE]
    Updated the group list but no change.

    As a next step I'd set up a second connection to the same server,
    using identical settings, login credentials and the like. - Just a
    different (40tude Dialog internal) name, to keep both connections
    apart.

    See, whether the new connection leads to the same read-only status
    of groups. If so, maybe contact the Usenet provider about it.

    Bernd

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to Bernd Rose on Fri Nov 3 21:11:41 2023
    Bernd Rose wrote:

    On Fri, 3rd Nov 2023 17:10:10 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    [Group(s) with status "Postingallowed"=FALSE]
    Updated the group list but no change.

    As a next step I'd set up a second connection to the same server,
    using identical settings, login credentials and the like. - Just a
    different (40tude Dialog internal) name, to keep both connections
    apart.

    Interesting, that works. As a wine user, I just assumed it was an
    issue running the newsreader under wine as I get used to plenty of
    those types of issues with other Windows programs on Linux.

    See, whether the new connection leads to the same read-only status
    of groups. If so, maybe contact the Usenet provider about it.

    Lol, I am the Usenet provider :) I'll dig into it a bit and see what
    might be the problem. I also wrote the nnrp server, so I assume the
    problem is there. (Watching traffic logs, etc.)

    --
    Retro Guy

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  • From Bernd Rose@21:1/5 to Retro Guy on Sat Nov 4 07:41:55 2023
    On Fri, 3rd Nov 2023 21:11:41 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    [Parallel new connection with identical settings]
    Interesting, that works.

    If you just wanted 40tude Dialog to work and were not interested in
    debugging the causes of your problem (see below), you now could move
    all articles you want to keep in all subscribed groups from the
    group-folders of the old connection to the same ones of the new
    connections. (It is important, that no filters or restricted views
    are active on the source folders. - To avoid missing articles.)
    After this being successful, the old connection could be deleted.

    As it is:
    See, whether the new connection leads to the same read-only status
    of groups. If so, maybe contact the Usenet provider about it.

    Lol, I am the Usenet provider :) I'll dig into it a bit and see what
    might be the problem. I also wrote the nnrp server, so I assume the
    problem is there. (Watching traffic logs, etc.)

    I don't think, you'll get much information this way. The problem, IMHO,
    was caused during the first retrieval of the server group list (done
    by 40tude Dialog). Out of whatever reason (maybe even a transmission
    error), 40tude Dialog got the flag "Postingallowed"=FALSE set in its
    database for the group(s) in question. I had expected the flag to get
    changed when updating the group list. (If the server lists the group
    /now/ as writeable.) But as you wrote yesterday, that wasn't the case.
    This seems to be an "unwanted feature" (= bug) by 40tude Dialog, which
    (because of the abandoned development) will never be rectified...

    The world doesn't end because of this, though. Setting up the parallel connection and moving archived articles over should work. Another way
    to solve this, would be to edit groups.idg with a hex-editor. But that
    is not recommended, if one wasn't /really/ familiar with the database
    file structure of 40tude Dialog. ;-)

    Bernd

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