On Fri, 23rd Apr 2021 16:57:51 +0200, bill wrote:

It turns out both problems were already solved for me by Dialog!
-1- Dialog was smart in removing all the padding spaces before sending
-2- Therefore it doesn't matter how many (as long as it exceeds wrap count)

You can expand the usage case on this thought: You wrote, you need to go
to the start of a line to have the salutation expanding on separate lines. That's not necessarily the case. You can also add a whole bunch of spaces /prior/ "Regards,". If, afterwards, you type the autoreplace shortcut at
the end of a non-empty line, this will insert "Regards," at the start of
the /next/ line. If, OTOH, the autoreplace shortcut is inserted at the beginning of a line, this will insert an additional empty line above the
line containing "Regards,".

You can't insert two line wraps in a row, though. It would be possible,
to separate two blocks of spaces (each longer than line wrap) with a
virtually invisible character using the Unicode charset. But that would
cause every single message you post to be encoded with UTF-7 or UTF-8.
(Which is really not advisable.) There are a few characters inside the
7-bit US-ASCII charset, that might seem acceptable at the beginning of
empty lines separating a greeting from the text body, though.

The characters +-=*.,~#% come in mind.

Another perfect solution! (I'm gonna type "CCC" (lowercase) now...)

I'm still wondering, why "rb" doesn't work for you. It seems like the
perfect fit and works without problems on my system with English and
German dictionaries enabled. Did you add "rb" to a custom dictionary
sometime in past?

Bernd

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On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 19:16:01 +0200, Bernd Rose wrote:

You can also add a whole bunch of spaces
/prior/ "Regards,". If, afterwards, you type the autoreplace shortcut at
the end of a non-empty line, this will insert "Regards," at the start of
the /next/ line.

That also worked (see salutation below done using that method!).
That's perfect!

I'm still wondering, why "rb" doesn't work for you. It seems like the
perfect fit and works without problems on my system with English and
German dictionaries enabled. Did you add "rb" to a custom dictionary
sometime in past?

I checked and didn't see "rb " but it's ok that it didn't work.
Everything else I tried from you did work so that's great progress.

I'm going to type the salutation command at the end of this line.
Regards,
bill
--
Police are searching for a robber who's stealing blunt pencils.
Quite frankly, they cant see the point

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On Sat, 24th Apr 2021 00:37:11 +0200, bill wrote:

On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 19:16:01 +0200, Bernd Rose wrote:

You can also add a whole bunch of spaces
/prior/ "Regards,". If, afterwards, you type the autoreplace shortcut at
the end of a non-empty line, this will insert "Regards," at the start of
the /next/ line.

That also worked (see salutation below done using that method!).
That's perfect!

[...]

I'm going to type the salutation command at the end of this line.
Regards, bill...................................................................................................................................

I replaced spaces with dots for clarification: Seems my suggested method
has its limits when done multi-line. ;-)

The spaces will not be cited, though. (I manually needed to copy them back
into the message.) It's a question of weighting pros and cons, then.

Bernd

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On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 09:12:32 +0200, Bernd Rose wrote:

Regards,
bill...................................................................................................................................

I replaced spaces with dots for clarification: Seems my suggested method
has its limits when done multi-line. ;-)

The spaces will not be cited, though. (I manually needed to copy them back into the message.) It's a question of weighting pros and cons, then.

Well then...... Dialog isn't actually "perfect" (but only nearly so!). :-/

I love the flexibility of Dialog and the ability to do these nice things!

I now have what I needed which is an easy way to end the message nicely.
I'll type the CCC, lowercase, exactly after the bang (no spaces before).

THANK YOU!
Regards,
bill
--
Why can't pencils move?
Because they are stationery

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Op Mon, 19 Apr 2021 03:18:44 +0200 schreef bill:

But how do you set a sig in Dialog that doesn't add the dash dash space?

I guess your question has been answered to your satisfaction (I tried
to follow the thread but got lost in Dialog specific technicalities),
but nevertheless I still feel the uncontrollable need to add my 2
cents. Which means I would do it by applying a simple keyboard macro.

Record these key-strokes: <CTRL>-F -> Fill in "-- " (to search for) ->
<Enter> -> <Del> <Del> (to remove the .sig delimiter and its line) ->
<Alt-C -> "S" (to send now) or "e" (to send later), and that's it,
basically.

In the Good Old Days I even used keyboard macros to move text from the newsreader editor to a Real Editor for some Serious Editing and vice
versa, but nowadays I can't be bothered with tricks like these
anymore.

Btw, I used (and still use) a 21 year old tiny program called Keyboard
Express for recurring tasks like these.

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Pancho

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On Mon, 26th Apr 2021 01:10:29 +0200, Pancho Sanza wrote:

Op Mon, 19 Apr 2021 03:18:44 +0200 schreef bill:

But how do you set a sig in Dialog that doesn't add the dash dash space?

I guess your question has been answered to your satisfaction (I tried
to follow the thread but got lost in Dialog specific technicalities),
but nevertheless I still feel the uncontrollable need to add my 2
cents. Which means I would do it by applying a simple keyboard macro.

Record these key-strokes: <CTRL>-F -> Fill in "-- " (to search for) -> <Enter> -> <Del> <Del> (to remove the .sig delimiter and its line) ->
<Alt-C -> "S" (to send now) or "e" (to send later), and that's it,
basically.

40tude Dialog has no keyboard shortcut assigned to <Find...> inside the
Compose Editor window. First step for this approach would be, to assign <Ctrl><F> (or whatever shortcut seems appropriate) to the find function.
Maybe, you did this in your 40tude Dialog instance a while ago?

Setting has to be done with Options -> Configure buttons/Shortcuts...
from the menu of a Compose Window, /not/ from main 40tude Dialog window.

Apart from this: 40tude Dialog Compose Editor <Find...> does not support
RegEx searches. -- Therefore, this macro may create undesirable results.
(Is herefore even a valid English word?) ;-)

Bernd

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