• Junk messages

    From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 12:57:31 2023
    Some clown has jumped over 1500 junk spam whatever messages into comp.sys.arcorn.misc - I'm sure there's probably others with a similar
    issue.

    Can anyone recommend a good way for me to delete all these? Obviously
    cutting and posting the messageid into the cancel command is not an
    option.

    Thanks,


    --
    End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
    telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From D@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Mon Nov 6 20:36:14 2023
    On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 12:57:31 -0600, Nigel Reed <[email protected]> wrote:
    Some clown has jumped over 1500 junk spam whatever messages into >comp.sys.arcorn.misc - I'm sure there's probably others with a similar
    issue.
    Can anyone recommend a good way for me to delete all these? Obviously
    cutting and posting the messageid into the cancel command is not an
    option.

    e.g. . .
    Path: ...!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!.POSTED.chiark.greenend.org.uk!not-for-mail
    From: Theo <[email protected]>
    Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.misc
    Subject: Re: Junk submissions
    Date: 18 Oct 2023 13:00:14 +0100 (BST)
    Organization: University of Cambridge, England
    Message-ID: <+tF*[email protected]>
    References: <[email protected]>
    Injection-Info: chiark.greenend.org.uk; posting-host="chiark.greenend.org.uk:212.13.197.229";
    logging-data="17946"; mail-complaints-to="[email protected]"
    User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (Linux/5.10.0-22-amd64 (x86_64))
    Originator: [email protected] ([212.13.197.229])
    Xref: news...net comp.sys.acorn.misc:2571

    Adrian Crafer <acrafer@spam/orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
    From the 12th onwards I seem to have received a large number of junk/scam
    emails to this group. Is there a moderator of any type who could block
    these?

    It's coming from Google Groups and is affecting large numbers of newsgroups. >Google don't care, in fact they don't even know what newsgroups are. This >group is not moderated and so there is no way to filter it at source. Your >news provider could decide to do so, that is up to them (ie probably they >won't).
    I have a filter set for
    Message-ID: *googlegroups.com*
    which zaps all of it, although it does zap the legit posters from Google >Groups too. I unblock specific From: addresses which helps get a few of
    them back, but that's a manual job (and I only find out about them when >somebody quotes them enough to include their email address, otherwise they >are completely hidden)
    Theo

    just checked "comp.sys.acorn.misc", and there are over one thousand
    six hundred (1637) googlespams since 12 October 2023 . . . not much
    compared to the 100s of 1000s googlespams plaguing other newsgroups;
    google admins should do the right thing and shut their servers down

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Olivier Miakinen@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 20:29:00 2023
    Le 06/11/2023 19:57, Nigel Reed a �crit :
    Some clown has jumped over 1500 junk spam whatever messages into comp.sys.arcorn.misc - I'm sure there's probably others with a similar
    issue.

    Can anyone recommend a good way for me to delete all these? Obviously
    cutting and posting the messageid into the cancel command is not an
    option.

    Hello Nigel,

    Do you accept Cancel articles sent by miakibot ? The path ends with : paganini.bofh.team!miakibot!byfrom!mmfcancel!cyberspam!not-for-mail

    Normally I only cancel spams on the french speaking hierarchy fr.*,
    but if I can have access for reading on a server where these spams are
    still present on comp.sys.arcorn.misc, and if Ivo Gandolfo accepts that
    I cancel these 1500 messages via paganini server, then I should be able
    to do it with an appropriate regexp.

    Alternatively, if you (or Ivo) don't want me to cancel them directly,
    I can just apply the regexp in order to produce the list of all MIDs.

    Best Regards,
    --
    Olivier Miakinen

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Etian@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Mon Nov 6 12:07:37 2023
    On 11/6/23 10:57, Nigel Reed wrote:
    Some clown has jumped over 1500 junk spam whatever messages into comp.sys.arcorn.misc - I'm sure there's probably others with a similar
    issue.

    Can anyone recommend a good way for me to delete all these? Obviously
    cutting and posting the messageid into the cancel command is not an
    option.

    Thanks,


    On 11/6/23 10:57, Nigel Reed wrote:
    Some clown has jumped over 1500 junk spam whatever messages into comp.sys.arcorn.misc - I'm sure there's probably others with a similar issue.

    Can anyone recommend a good way for me to delete all these? Obviously cutting and posting the messageid into the cancel command is not an
    option.

    Thanks,

    To clean up a trashed newsgroup, I use a newsreader that will make an
    nzb of selected messages (e.g. pan or forte), then run this PERL script.
    It's crude, and somebody can probably improve it, perhaps for inclusion
    in the INN package.

    #!/usr/bin/perl
    use strict;
    use warnings;

    ## this script will purge all message_id's found in the specified file
    #follow with expireover -s -f /usr/local/news/tmp/group.txt

    my ($nzbfile) = @ARGV or die "No file specified";

    unless (index($nzbfile,'.nzb')>1) {die "file must have .nzb extension";} open(NZB,$nzbfile) or die "file not found";
    while (<NZB>) {
    if (m/\>(.+)\</) {
    my $command = "/usr/local/news/bin/ctlinnd cancel " . '"<' . $1 . '>"';

    system ($command);
    };
    }
    exit;

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 21:01:13 2023
    Am 06.11.2023 um 12:57:31 Uhr schrieb Nigel Reed:

    Can anyone recommend a good way for me to delete all these? Obviously
    cutting and posting the messageid into the cancel command is not an
    option.

    Filter for Injection-Info header and let it delete all that includes
    google.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Olivier Miakinen@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 21:46:54 2023
    Le 06/11/2023 20:29, I wrote :

    Do you accept Cancel articles sent by miakibot ? The path ends with : paganini.bofh.team!miakibot!byfrom!mmfcancel!cyberspam!not-for-mail

    Oops ! There is a variable part (e.g. "byfrom" may be "bysubject" or "bymid").

    The fixed part is "paganini.bofh.team!miakibot" and "cyberspam!not-for-mail"


    --
    Olivier Miakinen

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to Etian on Mon Nov 6 15:52:51 2023
    On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 12:07:37 -0800
    Etian <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 11/6/23 10:57, Nigel Reed wrote:
    Some clown has jumped over 1500 junk spam whatever messages into comp.sys.arcorn.misc - I'm sure there's probably others with a
    similar issue.

    Can anyone recommend a good way for me to delete all these?
    Obviously cutting and posting the messageid into the cancel command
    is not an option.

    Thanks,


    On 11/6/23 10:57, Nigel Reed wrote:
    Some clown has jumped over 1500 junk spam whatever messages into comp.sys.arcorn.misc - I'm sure there's probably others with a
    similar issue.

    Can anyone recommend a good way for me to delete all these?
    Obviously cutting and posting the messageid into the cancel
    command is not an option.

    Thanks,

    To clean up a trashed newsgroup, I use a newsreader that will make an
    nzb of selected messages (e.g. pan or forte), then run this PERL
    script. It's crude, and somebody can probably improve it, perhaps for inclusion in the INN package.

    #!/usr/bin/perl
    use strict;
    use warnings;

    ## this script will purge all message_id's found in the specified file #follow with expireover -s -f /usr/local/news/tmp/group.txt

    my ($nzbfile) = @ARGV or die "No file specified";

    unless (index($nzbfile,'.nzb')>1) {die "file must have .nzb
    extension";} open(NZB,$nzbfile) or die "file not found";
    while (<NZB>) {
    if (m/\>(.+)\</) {
    my $command = "/usr/local/news/bin/ctlinnd cancel " .
    '"<' . $1 . '>"';

    system ($command);
    };
    }
    exit;

    Thanks, I looked a bit more into this after I posted and saw that I
    didn't have cem configured in my newsfeeds so I added a bunch of ssh
    keys and configured nocem.ctl and let it rip! It's currently doing a
    clean up.

    --
    End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
    telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From llp@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 22:50:18 2023
    Nigel Reed <[email protected]> composa la prose suivante:

    Some clown has jumped over 1500 junk spam whatever messages into >comp.sys.arcorn.misc - I'm sure there's probably others with a similar
    issue.

    Can anyone recommend a good way for me to delete all these? Obviously
    cutting and posting the messageid into the cancel command is not an
    option.

    Use Nocem from Eternal-September and news.usenet.ovh
    I see no spam in comp.sys.arcorn.misc on my server.

    You can read this article: <[email protected]>
    Or the directlink:

    - Eternal-september nocem: http://usenet.ovh/?article=nocem
    - news.usenet.ovh nocem: http://usenet.ovh/?article=nocem

    Sincerely


    --
    Liste de serveurs offrant un accès gratuit à la hiérarchie FR.* http://usenet.ovh/?article=faq_serveur_gratuit

    Recherche d'article Usenet
    http://usenet.ovh/?article=ual

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Olivier Miakinen@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 23:48:50 2023
    Hello Adam,

    Le 06/11/2023 23:29, Adam H. Kerman a �crit :

    Do you accept Cancel articles sent by miakibot ? The path ends with : >>paganini.bofh.team!miakibot!byfrom!mmfcancel!cyberspam!not-for-mail

    May I ask why you issue cancels in lieu of NoCeMs?

    Yes, you may ask and I will respond. :-)

    There are three reasons :
    1) At least the server that I use for reading (usenet-fr.net) and a server
    which is of very large use by the french-speaking community (free.fr) are
    old and they don't know how to handle NoCeMs.
    2) Another server providing the same hierarchy (pasdenom.info) issues NoCeMs
    for the servers which handle them.
    3) By laziness about learning how to issue NoCeMs. :-)

    Best Regards,
    --
    Olivier Miakinen

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Olivier Miakinen on Mon Nov 6 22:29:37 2023
    Olivier Miakinen <[email protected]> wrote:

    Do you accept Cancel articles sent by miakibot ? The path ends with : >paganini.bofh.team!miakibot!byfrom!mmfcancel!cyberspam!not-for-mail

    May I ask why you issue cancels in lieu of NoCeMs?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Olivier Miakinen@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 23:41:09 2023
    Le 06/11/2023 22:52, Nigel Reed a �crit :

    [...] I looked a bit more into this after I posted and saw that I
    didn't have cem configured in my newsfeeds so I added a bunch of ssh
    keys and configured nocem.ctl and let it rip! It's currently doing a
    clean up.

    Fine.

    --
    Olivier Miakinen

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ivo Gandolfo@21:1/5 to Olivier Miakinen on Tue Nov 7 10:12:05 2023
    On 06/11/2023 20:29, Olivier Miakinen wrote:

    Alternatively, if you (or Ivo) don't want me to cancel them directly,
    I can just apply the regexp in order to produce the list of all MIDs.

    Best Regards,

    For me it's be fine, and if you learn to do NoCEM it's better way ;)


    Sincerely

    --
    Ivo Gandolfo

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Olivier Miakinen@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 7 12:50:12 2023
    Le 07/11/2023 10:12, Ivo Gandolfo a �crit :

    Alternatively, if you (or Ivo) don't want me to cancel them directly,
    I can just apply the regexp in order to produce the list of all MIDs.

    For me it's be fine,

    Thanks. However Nigel has solved his (her?) problem, so it is not necessary after all.

    and if you learn to do NoCEM it's better way ;)

    You are right, I am currently working on it.

    Regards,
    --
    Olivier Miakinen

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)