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  • Re: Gatewaying some Usenet newsgroups with ActivityPub

    From Bozo User@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Aug 1 16:36:15 2023
    On 2023-07-09, rek2 hispagatos <[email protected]d> wrote:
    This will be great, I am the admin of a mastodon server hispagatos.space
    and I use nntp/usenet on a daily basics, I think lemmy(also part of the fediverse ) that is focus on groups like reddit, will be easier to
    gateway <=> both ways.

    search for "lemmy fediverse"

    On 2023-07-08, Julien ÉLIE <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Hi all,

    Following an idea recently proposed by Gérald Niel (a contributor in
    fr.*) and the comparison to the Fediverse made by Rayner Lucas and
    Tristan Miller in a recent video, couldn't we work out a way to gateway
    Usenet newsgroups with the Fediverse, using the ActivityPub protocol?

    https://activitypub.rocks/

    The Actor could be a newsgroup. Usenet articles posted to gatewayed
    newsgroups could be turned into a Note in ActivityPub, and received
    responses turned into an article into the newsgroup.

    Maybe we would need the presence of a dedicated header field to consider
    an individual as an Actor, as its username needs being unique and may
    not be derived from only Injection-Info data (as a server name can
    change and a user can migrate to another server). The messages would
    then need being signed to prevent forgeries.
    It is more complex to do, so an Actor could only be a newsgroup to begin
    with.


    Just for opening the discussion about a possible usefulness of such a
    gateway. Seems like it will grow in importance these next years!




    I'd like the opposite. A Mastodon client<->NNTP spool, like NNTPIT.
    As I try to use Usenet on a weekly basis, it would be the best offline setup ever.

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  • From Russ Allbery@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Aug 2 19:41:49 2023
    rek2 hispagatos <[email protected]d> writes:

    I would like the reverse. Mastodon->NNTP, so I could see the threaded
    conversations in NNTP, and maybe with images being uuencoded.

    Also, all the content would be stored in my HD as slrnpull would work
    as always.

    There was something like that for Reddit with NNTPit.

    I will really be interested in this, one way, two ways or the best
    solution will be to choose in the config how we want posts to flow.

    I think the best fediverse service to run with usenet is LEMMY is
    threaded, group, and posts.

    Since folks are talking about gatewaying Netnews into another medium, just wanted to make sure that everyone has seen this. Back when I was doing a
    lot of active gatewaying, I tried to capture some of the critical
    principles, although it got edited down a lot compared to all the things
    that could be said about gatewaying.

    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5537#section-3.10

    --
    Russ Allbery ([email protected]) <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

    Please post questions rather than mailing me directly.
    <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/questions.html> explains why.

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  • From rek2 hispagatos@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 02:25:08 2023

    I'd like the opposite. A Mastodon client<->NNTP spool, like NNTPIT.
    As I try to use Usenet on a weekly basis, it would be the best offline setup ever.

    The ideal will be to have both ways and the bot admin to choose.

    --
    - {gemini,https}://{,rek2.}hispagatos.org - mastodon: @[email protected]
    - [https|gemini]://2600.Madrid - https://hispagatos.space/@rek2
    - https://keyoxide.org/A31C7CE19D9C58084EA42BA26C0B0D11E9303EC5

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