Is there any info on setting up UUCP on two computers for playing around/ experimentation. I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could
find was back to 2006 and a lot of spam crap. Any links or text files
would be great.

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Hi Seth,

Is there any info on setting up UUCP on two computers for playing around/ experimentation. I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could
find was back to 2006 and a lot of spam crap. Any links or text files
would be great.

I would suggest the "Setting up UUCP feeds" section of the send-uucp documentation:
https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/docs/send-uucp.html

I wrote it last year and of course I'll happily improve it in case some
things are not clear enough. You'll probably be the first to try these instructions.

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Am 05.02.2023 um 09:00:56 Uhr schrieb seth hurst:

I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could
find was back to 2006 and a lot of spam crap.

Feel free to ask there.

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In article <trnr88$142l$[email protected]>,
seth hurst <[email protected]> wrote:

Is there any info on setting up UUCP on two computers for playing around/ >experimentation. I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could
find was back to 2006 and a lot of spam crap. Any links or text files
would be great.

Are you using Taylor or built in?
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In article <trnuid$ltit$[email protected]>,
Julien � LIE <[email protected]d> wrote:

Hi Seth,

Is there any info on setting up UUCP on two computers for playing around/
experimentation. I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could
find was back to 2006 and a lot of spam crap. Any links or text files
would be great.

I would suggest the "Setting up UUCP feeds" section of the send-uucp >documentation:
https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/docs/send-uucp.html

I wrote it last year and of course I'll happily improve it in case some >things are not clear enough. You'll probably be the first to try these >instructions.

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plaisanter. » (Raymond Devos)

UUCP for NEWs or NEws and Mail?
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Hi,
seth hurst a tapoté le 05/02/2023 10:00:

I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could
find was back to 2006 and a lot of spam crap. Any links or text files
would be great.

I don't have 2006 articles but I do not have spam on it : <https://news2web.pasdenom.info/thread.php?group=comp.mail.uucp>

HTH!

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yamo' <[email protected]d> wrote:

seth hurst a tapot� le 05/02/2023 10:00:

I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could
find was back to 2006 and a lot of spam crap. Any links or text files
would be great.

I don't have 2006 articles but I do not have spam on it : <https://news2web.pasdenom.info/thread.php?group=comp.mail.uucp>

Here are old FAQs:

schaefer@shakotay:/data/www/archive.alphanet.ch/autofaq$ find . -iname '*uucp*' ./linux/howto/uucp
./linux/howto/uucp-howto
./linux/howto/mini/sendmail+uucp
./de/comm/uucp
./fr/linux/howto/uucp-howto
./fr/linux/howto/mini/sendmail+uucp
./uucp-internals
./amiga/amigauucp-faq

See them on: https://archive.alphanet.ch/autofaq/

I stopped using UUCP in 2003.

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In article <trqkdo$umr$[email protected]>,
Marc SCHAEFER <[email protected]> wrote:

yamo' <[email protected]d> wrote:

seth hurst a tapot� le 05/02/2023 10:00:

I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could
find was back to 2006 and a lot of spam crap. Any links or text files
would be great.

I don't have 2006 articles but I do not have spam on it :
<https://news2web.pasdenom.info/thread.php?group=comp.mail.uucp>

Here are old FAQs:

schaefer@shakotay:/data/www/archive.alphanet.ch/autofaq$ find . -iname '*uucp*'
./linux/howto/uucp
./linux/howto/uucp-howto
./linux/howto/mini/sendmail+uucp
./de/comm/uucp
./fr/linux/howto/uucp-howto
./fr/linux/howto/mini/sendmail+uucp
./uucp-internals
./amiga/amigauucp-faq

See them on: https://archive.alphanet.ch/autofaq/

I stopped using UUCP in 2003.

UUCP over TCPIP is also an option.

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On 2/5/23 2:00 AM, seth hurst wrote:

Is there any info on setting up UUCP on two computers for playing
around / experimentation.

I'm sure there is. Though I don't know what to point to without looking
for what's currently available.

I checked in comp.mail.uucp but the only things I could find was back
to 2006 and a lot of spam crap. Any links or text files would be great.

I found that the UUCP documents in The Linux Documentation Project and /
or Taylor UUCP (no known relationship) work fairly well.

I think that Taylor UUCP is probably the most friendly UUCP
implementation to work with.

Are you wanting to use serial (modem or null), TCP, STDIO, or something
else?



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Wanting to use tcp/ip maybe telnet or netcat to play around.

On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 09:14:50 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote:

On 2/5/23 2:00 AM, seth hurst wrote:

[quoted text muted]

I'm sure there is. Though I don't know what to point to without looking
for what's currently available.

[quoted text muted]

I found that the UUCP documents in The Linux Documentation Project and /
or Taylor UUCP (no known relationship) work fairly well.

I think that Taylor UUCP is probably the most friendly UUCP
implementation to work with.

Are you wanting to use serial (modem or null), TCP, STDIO, or something
else?

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On 2/6/23 8:25 AM, The Doctor wrote:

UUCP over TCPIP is also an option.

Yep.

I'm using Taylor UUCP via STDIO through SSH connections.

N.B. this is NOT TCP based UUCP using port forwarding. Rather it is
using SSH in lieu of modem.



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seth hurst <[email protected]> wrote:

Wanting to use tcp/ip maybe telnet or netcat to play around.

I did that a loong time ago (around 1995) when I only had a dialup
modem, and inter-cantonal dialing was very expensive. I dialled a Sun
computer locally and then redirected through TCP to get my UUCP feed.

A few years later, I had fixed IP CATV networking and thus could
do UUCP over TCP (and also FTN, Fidonet). Taylor UUCP had native
support for this AFAIK. Then in 2003, I dropped all UUCP support,
having on the Internet side already switched to SMTP/NNTP, and
most of my users having either a dialup or fixnet Internet access,
using IMAP/POP/SMTP, or getting SLIP/PPP from me.

Now, a simpler way to play with UUCP concepts today would simply to
create rnews and rmail batches, copy them with scp, and then run rnews
and rmail on the file remotely.

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On 2/6/23 9:46 PM, seth hurst wrote:

Wanting to use tcp/ip maybe telnet or netcat to play around.

Taylor UUCP has TCP/IP support built in. No need for netcat or the likes.

N.B. Telnet is not guaranteed to be 8-bit clean / safe. Make sure that
what you push through it doesn't have problems.



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On 2/7/23 3:03 AM, Marc SCHAEFER wrote:

Now, a simpler way to play with UUCP concepts today would simply
to create rnews and rmail batches, copy them with scp, and then run
rnews and rmail on the file remotely.

Just rnews / rmail don't provide the remote command / file copy /
forwarding / routing / etc. features that UUCP proper provides.

Taylor UUCP via TCP/IP or SSH is simple enough and provides more features.



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Grant Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:

Just rnews / rmail don't provide the remote command / file copy /
forwarding / routing / etc. features that UUCP proper provides.

Right, I deactivated all of those, of course, when I was running a
public UUCP servers :)

I think I left the option to get files from a specific chroot, though,
but noone used that. People were very fond of BMS a the time, a system
to retrieve files via e-mail, and I also had a FTP and HTTP-to-e-mail
gateway :)

Taylor UUCP via TCP/IP or SSH is simple enough and provides more features.

Yes, I think I used the variant through SSH.

When non-interactivity and file transfer in batches was "� la mode", but
UUCP started dying, I even developped a Batch SMTP (BSMTP) mode, that
was usable either through UUCP or through HTTP. I also offered news
batches via HTTP.

All this predates 2003.

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On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 09:58:10 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote:

On 2/6/23 9:46 PM, seth hurst wrote:

[quoted text muted]

Taylor UUCP has TCP/IP support built in. No need for netcat or the
likes.

N.B. Telnet is not guaranteed to be 8-bit clean / safe. Make sure that
what you push through it doesn't have problems.

How to you set what newsgroups you want to get news fore? Say if you were
a user on a uucp connection?

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seth hurst <[email protected]> wrote:

How to you set what newsgroups you want to get news fore? Say if you were
a user on a uucp connection?

You ask the friendly sysadmin on the other side to add some newsgroups
to your UUCP batch feed in his/her /etc/news/newsfeeds:

# A UUCP feed, where we try to keep the "batching" between 4 KB and 1 KB.
# You can use send-uucp(8) to process these batch files.
#ihnp4\
# :*,!junk,!control,!control.*/!foo\
# :Tf,Wnb,B4096/1024:

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On 2/10/23 3:59 AM, seth hurst wrote:

How to you set what newsgroups you want to get news fore? Say if you
were a user on a uucp connection?

As Marc S. said, it's all about what your peer feeds you.

UUCP / NNTP is really just the transport of whatever is in said feed.



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Hi Seth,

How to you set what newsgroups you want to get news fore? Say if you were
a user on a uucp connection?

Did you try to follow the instructions in the send-uucp documentation?
https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/docs/send-uucp.html

It's based on Taylor UUCP (uux, uucico, uuxqt...) like Grant also
suggested. Step 14 is the moment when you set up the newsgroups to send
(with an example like the one Marc gave you).

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On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 19:16:45 +0100, Julien ÉLIE wrote:

Hi Seth,

How to you set what newsgroups you want to get news fore? Say if you
were a user on a uucp connection?

Did you try to follow the instructions in the send-uucp documentation?
https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/docs/send-uucp.html

It's based on Taylor UUCP (uux, uucico, uuxqt...) like Grant also
suggested. Step 14 is the moment when you set up the newsgroups to send (with an example like the one Marc gave you).

Just trying to get the basic UUCP setup for now. :)

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Am 10.02.2023 um 11:59 schrieb seth hurst:

On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 09:58:10 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote:

How to you set what newsgroups you want to get news fore? Say if you were
a user on a uucp connection?

Ask your feed to subscribe newsgroups manually or
you could nag him to install "gup".

gup ist something like a maillinglistmanager but for newsfeeds.

Matthias

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Hi Seth,

Did you try to follow the instructions in the send-uucp documentation?
https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/docs/send-uucp.html

It's based on Taylor UUCP (uux, uucico, uuxqt...) like Grant also
suggested. Step 14 is the moment when you set up the newsgroups to send
(with an example like the one Marc gave you).

Just trying to get the basic UUCP setup for now. :)

Getting the basic UUCP setup is explained along the lines (step 3 to
configure /etc/uucp/Poll, 4 for the outgoing credentials in
/etc/uucp/call, 5 for the UUCP node name in /etc/uucp/config, 6 for
batch retention in /etc/uucp/expire, 7 for the incoming credentials in /etc/uucp/passwd, 8 to 13 for parametrizing the SSH connection in
/etc/uucp/sys and /etc/uucp/port, etc.).

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