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    From seth Hurst@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 30 11:03:07 2022
    Is there any servers offfering any of the usenet ii groups? I've been
    reading about this. Also what does the term mean a sound usenet site? I
    would take that to mean no spam but not sure.

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  • From Richard Kettlewell@21:1/5 to seth Hurst on Tue Aug 30 12:44:29 2022
    seth Hurst <[email protected]> writes:
    Is there any servers offfering any of the usenet ii groups? I've been
    reading about this. Also what does the term mean a sound usenet site? I
    would take that to mean no spam but not sure.

    It was abandoned over a decade ago.

    --
    https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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  • From seth Hurst@21:1/5 to Richard Kettlewell on Tue Aug 30 12:31:12 2022
    On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 12:44:29 +0100, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

    seth Hurst <[email protected]> writes:
    Is there any servers offfering any of the usenet ii groups? I've been
    reading about this. Also what does the term mean a sound usenet site? I
    would take that to mean no spam but not sure.

    It was abandoned over a decade ago.

    ah okay.

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  • From Marc SCHAEFER@21:1/5 to seth Hurst on Tue Aug 30 12:53:19 2022
    seth Hurst <[email protected]> wrote:
    It was abandoned over a decade ago.

    ah okay.

    There is even a Wikipedia page:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_II

    and a web page: if it was once related to Usenet II (no idea), the
    usenet 2 dot org domain is now apparently a parked / advertising domain (according to Google, because it currently just says "The requested URL
    was not found on this server.")

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  • From Russ Allbery@21:1/5 to Richard Kettlewell on Tue Aug 30 09:01:13 2022
    Richard Kettlewell <[email protected]d> writes:
    seth Hurst <[email protected]> writes:

    Is there any servers offfering any of the usenet ii groups? I've been
    reading about this. Also what does the term mean a sound usenet site? I
    would take that to mean no spam but not sure.

    It was abandoned over a decade ago.

    The basic problem was lack of traffic. It sort of fell between two
    stools: too high of a barrier to entry to get enough of the (small)
    remaining Usenet traffic to remain viable over time, but too low of a
    barrier of entry to have the feeling of community of a private hierarchy.

    In my personal opinion, a lot of the things that were being tried at the
    time were variations of "how do we introduce some level of moderation for Usenet groups that isn't the highly arcane and poorly-designed traditional moderation system, but without changing the protocol." And the answer
    was, basically, "you can't," with a small exception for truly private invite-only hierarchies, which continue to work fine for a sweet spot of
    about 20-50 active participants but cannot scale.

    --
    Russ Allbery ([email protected]) <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

    Please post questions rather than mailing me directly.
    <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/questions.html> explains why.

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