IIRC, alt.english.usage was a high-volume group until recent years. It
seems to go by at least a day now with no articles. Have I got the
group name wrong perhaps?

I'm also looking for a group on economics. I'd like to ask questions
and learn a bit from people who study it. We have sci.econ, but it
looks dead on Eternal September.

Thanks!

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Ethan Carter <[email protected]> wrote or quoted:

IIRC, alt.english.usage was a high-volume group until recent years. It
seems to go by at least a day now with no articles. Have I got the
group name wrong perhaps?

There's also "alt.usage.english".

I'm also looking for a group on economics. I'd like to ask questions
and learn a bit from people who study it. We have sci.econ, but it
looks dead on Eternal September.

I can only find "alt.invest..." having some overlap with this.

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On 18.04.2025 21:51 Uhr Ethan Carter wrote:

IIRC, alt.english.usage was a high-volume group until recent years.
It seems to go by at least a day now with no articles. Have I got the
group name wrong perhaps?

Still active and being used. Feel free to post there.

I'm also looking for a group on economics. I'd like to ask questions
and learn a bit from people who study it. We have sci.econ, but it
looks dead on Eternal September.

Feel free to post there, so it isn't empty anymore.

--
kind regards
Marco

Send spam to [email protected]

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[email protected] (Stefan Ram) writes:

Ethan Carter <[email protected]> wrote or quoted:

IIRC, alt.english.usage was a high-volume group until recent years. It >>seems to go by at least a day now with no articles. Have I got the
group name wrong perhaps?

There's also "alt.usage.english".

Aha! I think I got the wrong group. That's the one I meant by ``high-volume''. Thanks!

I'm also looking for a group on economics. I'd like to ask questions
and learn a bit from people who study it. We have sci.econ, but it
looks dead on Eternal September.

I can only find "alt.invest..." having some overlap with this.

Followed Marco's advice to post on sci.econ. The question is more about economics than investment. Should perhaps have posted to alt.invest as
well, but that's too late now. Thanks! Join us in sci.econ if you have
the interest! Thanks a lot!

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Marco Moock <[email protected]> writes:

On 18.04.2025 21:51 Uhr Ethan Carter wrote:

I'm also looking for a group on economics. I'd like to ask questions
and learn a bit from people who study it. We have sci.econ, but it
looks dead on Eternal September.

Feel free to post there, so it isn't empty anymore.

Posted. :) Thanks!

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On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 21:51:03 -0300, Ethan Carter
<[email protected]> wrote:

IIRC, alt.english.usage was a high-volume group until recent years. It
seems to go by at least a day now with no articles. Have I got the
group name wrong perhaps?

It was probably formed because someone mistyped alt.usage.english,
which still flourishes.

I'm also looking for a group on economics. I'd like to ask questions
and learn a bit from people who study it. We have sci.econ, but it
looks dead on Eternal September.

Crosspost to other groups that seem to deal with economics, and see if
anyone replies.


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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Steve Hayes <[email protected]> writes:

On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 21:51:03 -0300, Ethan Carter
<[email protected]> wrote:

[...]

I'm also looking for a group on economics. I'd like to ask questions
and learn a bit from people who study it. We have sci.econ, but it
looks dead on Eternal September.

Crosspost to other groups that seem to deal with economics, and see if
anyone replies.

There doesn't seem to be other groups. I don't think investment, for
example, has much to do with economics.

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On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 16:11:15 -0300, Ethan Carter
<[email protected]> wrote:

Steve Hayes <[email protected]> writes:

On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 21:51:03 -0300, Ethan Carter
<[email protected]> wrote:

[...]

I'm also looking for a group on economics. I'd like to ask questions
and learn a bit from people who study it. We have sci.econ, but it
looks dead on Eternal September.

Crosspost to other groups that seem to deal with economics, and see if
anyone replies.

There doesn't seem to be other groups. I don't think investment, for >example, has much to do with economics.

Well I did find these:

alt.economics.austrian-school
alt.economics.miroslav-verbic


One of the strange things about Usenet is that people seem to rush to
start very narrowly specialised newsgroups, when there are not enough
general ones, or even when there are general groups, there is not
enough traffic in them to justify a more specialised one.



--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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Steve Hayes <[email protected]> writes:

On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 16:11:15 -0300, Ethan Carter
<[email protected]> wrote:

Steve Hayes <[email protected]> writes:

On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 21:51:03 -0300, Ethan Carter
<[email protected]> wrote:

[...]

I'm also looking for a group on economics. I'd like to ask questions >>>>and learn a bit from people who study it. We have sci.econ, but it >>>>looks dead on Eternal September.

Crosspost to other groups that seem to deal with economics, and see if
anyone replies.

There doesn't seem to be other groups. I don't think investment, for >>example, has much to do with economics.

Well I did find these:

alt.economics.austrian-school
alt.economics.miroslav-verbic

I bet they're dead. (I've already posted. I'd have to post a new
article just to invite people to read a previous one.)

One of the strange things about Usenet is that people seem to rush to
start very narrowly specialised newsgroups, when there are not enough
general ones, or even when there are general groups, there is not
enough traffic in them to justify a more specialised one.

How long have you been on the USENET? It used to have a lot of traffic. Deleting groups seems to be a very hard thing to do. But, yes, the fact
that these above belong to the alt node, they might have been created in
an experimental impulse.

In any case, thanks very much for bringing these groups to my attention.

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On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 11:18:47 -0300, Ethan Carter
<[email protected]> wrote:

Steve Hayes <[email protected]> writes:

Well I did find these:

alt.economics.austrian-school
alt.economics.miroslav-verbic

I bet they're dead. (I've already posted. I'd have to post a new
article just to invite people to read a previous one.)

One of the strange things about Usenet is that people seem to rush to
start very narrowly specialised newsgroups, when there are not enough
general ones, or even when there are general groups, there is not
enough traffic in them to justify a more specialised one.

How long have you been on the USENET? It used to have a lot of traffic. >Deleting groups seems to be a very hard thing to do. But, yes, the fact
that these above belong to the alt node, they might have been created in
an experimental impulse.

I've been on Usenet for about 35 years. It was at its best for the
first 5 of those, when my access was mainly through Fidonet. Back then
Usenet was mostly academic, and Usenet purists despised the hoi polloi
who sneaked in through the Fidonet gateway, and most of them left when GoogleGroups began to be gated and the spammers took over.

In any case, thanks very much for bringing these groups to my attention.

--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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Ethan Carter <[email protected]> wrote or quoted:

I'm also looking for a group on economics. I'd like to ask questions
and learn a bit from people who study it. We have sci.econ, but it
looks dead on Eternal September.

In the meantime, I discovered "alt.politics.economics".

(But scope out what kind of people hang out there before you post
anything.)

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Ethan Carter <[email protected]> wrote:

Steve Hayes <[email protected]> writes:

Mon, 21 Apr 2025 16:11:15 -0300, Ethan Carter <[email protected]>: >>>Steve Hayes <[email protected]> writes:

Fri, 18 Apr 2025 21:51:03 -0300, Ethan Carter <[email protected]>:

[...]

I'm also looking for a group on economics. I'd like to ask questions >>>>>and learn a bit from people who study it. We have sci.econ, but it >>>>>looks dead on Eternal September.

Crosspost to other groups that seem to deal with economics, and see if >>>>anyone replies.

There doesn't seem to be other groups. I don't think investment, for >>>example, has much to do with economics.

Well I did find these:

alt.economics.austrian-school
alt.economics.miroslav-verbic

I bet they're dead. (I've already posted. I'd have to post a new
article just to invite people to read a previous one.)

One of the strange things about Usenet is that people seem to rush to
start very narrowly specialised newsgroups, when there are not enough >>general ones, or even when there are general groups, there is not
enough traffic in them to justify a more specialised one.

How long have you been on the USENET? It used to have a lot of traffic. >Deleting groups seems to be a very hard thing to do. But, yes, the fact
that these above belong to the alt node, they might have been created in
an experimental impulse.

Impulse, yes. Experiment, no.

It's Usenet. alt.*, free.*, and some other hierarchies are
unadministered. The proponent sends the newgroup message. Any idiot can
send a newgroup message. It's just a matter of getting the syntax right,
and plenty of proponents have failed to get that right.

Being a proponent the right way -- looking for an audience on Usenet and developing it till the group thrives -- is actual work. The vast
majority of newgroup messages were sent by proponents who didn't give a
shit about making sure the group thrived.

Then we had a handful of proponents who sent a newgroup message, got distracted, then sent a newgroup message for a group on an unrelated
topic, got distracted again, lather rinse repeat. They'd send hundreds
of newgroup messages; none of the groups thrived. And Hipcrime sent
thousands of newgroup messages in his war against the Big 8 hierarchy administrators in the late 80s/early 90s.

Your typical proponent has no interest in participating in ongoing
discussion or starting interesting discussion. He doesn't see a group named
for the exact narrow topic he like. What, you think a group to discuss
the philosophy of Ludwig von Mises was warranted because Austrian school discussion was so overwhelming a broader group for economics discussion?
Of course not.

A failed proponent is one who thinks that the mere act of sending that
newgroup message will force discussion, if any, to move from one group
to another. Well, it's Usenet. It's the author's choice where to post
his article, never the proponent's.

In any case, thanks very much for bringing these groups to my attention.

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Ethan Carter <[email protected]> wrote:

How long have you been on the USENET? It used to have a lot of traffic. >Deleting groups seems to be a very hard thing to do. But, yes, the fact
that these above belong to the alt node, they might have been created in
an experimental impulse.

This is why many sites still carry:
alt.newbie
alt.newbies
alt.best.of.internet
alt.herve.villechaize.dead.dead.dead
alt.fan.roger.david.carasso
alt.politics.bush
alt.politics.clinton
alt.politics.perot
alt.politics.gooley
alt.fan.gooley
alt.job.gooley
alt.gobment.lones
alt.wanted.moslem.men
alt.wanted.moslem.women
alt.wanted.moslem.gay
alt.imploding.kibo
alt.aldus.freehand
alt.fractal-design.painter
alt.pixar.typestry
alt.fan.howard-sterm.fartman
alt.flame.marshal.perlman.weenie
alt.flame.hairy-douchebag.merrideth-tanner

In spite of Roger Carasso having died a decade ago and many of the flame
wars which caused his creation of these groups being long gone. Although Meridith Tanner is still around.

At least alt.drugs.i.am.totaly.wasted seems to have disappeared.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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