Hi,
Looking at news.log I found this error in my cleanfeed installation:

Mar 29 09:03:47 news innd: filter: Cannot open /usr/local/news/cleanfeed/cleanfeed.stats: No such file or directory

it is not a consistent path with my innd and cleanfeed installation, but
I did not find where to fix it in cleanfeed script.

Running inncheck I find that there are no errors with the peers I have established:
root@news:~# sudo -u news /usr/lib/news/bin/inncheck -av --pedantic
Looking at /var/lib/news/active...
Looking at /etc/news/control.ctl...
Looking at /etc/news/control.ctl.local...
Looking at /etc/news/expire.ctl...
Looking at /etc/news/incoming.conf...
Looking at /etc/news/inn.conf...
Looking at /etc/news/innfeed.conf...
Looking at /etc/news/moderators...
Looking at /etc/news/newsfeeds...
ME, controlchan!, innfeed!, eternal-september,
newsfeed.endofthelinebbs.com, weretis.net, done.
Looking at /etc/news/nntpsend.ctl...
Looking at /etc/news/passwd.nntp...
Looking at /etc/news/readers.conf...
Looking at /etc/news/storage.conf...

But connecting to my server:

$ nc news.tcpreset.net 119
200 news.tcpreset.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.6.4 ready (posting ok) LIST
215 Newsgroups in form "group high low status"
control 0000000000 0000000001 n
control.cancel 0000000000 0000000001 n
control.checkgroups 0000000000 0000000001 n
control.newgroup 0000000000 0000000001 no
control.rmgroup 0000000000 0000000001 n
junk 0000000000 0000000001 n
local.general 0000000000 0000000001 y
local.test 0000000001 0000000001 y
.

Any help will be appreciated
Best regards

Gabx
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Thus spake Gabx <[email protected]>

Mar 29 09:03:47 news innd: filter: Cannot open /usr/local/news/cleanfeed/cleanfeed.stats: No such file or directory
it is not a consistent path with my innd and cleanfeed installation,
but I did not find where to fix it in cleanfeed script.

Are you using the Cleanfeed Perl filter (symlinked as filter_innd.pl)?
If so, please check the main cleanfeed executable to adjust the path
to your cleanfeed.local file and then adjust the local config variables according to your installation.

Running inncheck I find that there are no errors with the peers I have established:
root@news:~# sudo -u news /usr/lib/news/bin/inncheck -av --pedantic
Looking at /var/lib/news/active...
Looking at /etc/news/control.ctl...
Looking at /etc/news/control.ctl.local...
Looking at /etc/news/expire.ctl...
Looking at /etc/news/incoming.conf...
Looking at /etc/news/inn.conf...
Looking at /etc/news/innfeed.conf...
Looking at /etc/news/moderators...
Looking at /etc/news/newsfeeds...
ME, controlchan!, innfeed!, eternal-september,
newsfeed.endofthelinebbs.com, weretis.net, done.
Looking at /etc/news/nntpsend.ctl...
Looking at /etc/news/passwd.nntp...
Looking at /etc/news/readers.conf...
Looking at /etc/news/storage.conf...

But connecting to my server:

$ nc news.tcpreset.net 119
200 news.tcpreset.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.6.4 ready (posting ok) LIST
215 Newsgroups in form "group high low status"
control 0000000000 0000000001 n
control.cancel 0000000000 0000000001 n
control.checkgroups 0000000000 0000000001 n
control.newgroup 0000000000 0000000001 no
control.rmgroup 0000000000 0000000001 n
junk 0000000000 0000000001 n
local.general 0000000000 0000000001 y
local.test 0000000001 0000000001 y
.

Any help will be appreciated

What is the problem?
Does the above list really contain all groups defined in your active
file? If so, please add the groups you desire to get articles for to
your active file. /var/log/news/unwanted.log contains a list of all
group names your server rejected articles for because these groups are
not defined in your active file.

Please use ctlinnd "newgroup group.name [y|m]" to add groups to your
server, do not edit the active file while innd is running.

As far as I can see, your server has rejected all all articles sent by Eternal-September so far.

https://feeder.eternal-september.org/stats/innfeed_status.html#news-in.tcpreset.net


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Thus spake Gabx <[email protected]>

Ray Banana wrote:

As far as I can see, your server has rejected all all articles sent by
Eternal-September so far.
https://feeder.eternal-september.org/stats/innfeed_status.html#news-in.tcpreset.net

What could be the cause of this?

I suspect your active file does not contain any groups except the
default groups defined by the installation script (control.*, junk and
local.*) which should not be propagated to peers.

Your /var/log/news/news file should also contain a line like this

Mar 29 10:16:47.380 - /peer.server/ </message@id> 439 Unwanted newsgroup "/missing.group.name/"

for each rejected article.

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Gabx wrote:

Ray Banana wrote:

As far as I can see, your server has rejected all all articles sent by
Eternal-September so far.

https://feeder.eternal-september.org/stats/innfeed_status.html#news-in.tcpreset.net

What could be the cause of this?

Found it,
Mar 29 10:18:56 news innd: filter: Cannot open emp.md5: No such file or directory
Mar 29 10:18:56 news innd: rejecting[perl] <[email protected]> 439 EMP (md5)

The filter doesnt find emp.md5 and than rejects articles.

to your cleanfeed.local file and then adjust the local config variables according to your installation.

I'm about to sort this out.

Gabx



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Gabx wrote:

Gabx wrote:

Ray Banana wrote:

As far as I can see, your server has rejected all all articles sent by
Eternal-September so far.

Mar 29 10:18:56 news innd: filter: Cannot open emp.md5: No such file or directory
Mar 29 10:18:56 news innd: rejecting[perl] <[email protected]> 439 EMP (md5)

to your cleanfeed.local file and then adjust the local config variables
according to your installation.

This is cleanfeed local_config according to my installation:

sub local_config {
%config_local = (
block_late_cancels => 1,
block_user_cancels => 1,
active_file => '/var/lib/news/active',
statfile => '/var/spool/news/cleanfeed/html/cleanfeed.stats',
html_statfile => '/var/spool/news/cleanfeed/html/cleanfeed.stats.html',
stats_interval => 300,
do_scoring_filter => 0,
do_emp_dump => 1,
emp_dump_file => '/var/spool/news/tmp/empdump',
md5_skips_followups => 0,
debug_batch_directory => '/var/spool/news/cleanfeed/log',
flood_groups => '^sci\.crypt$|^news\.software\.nntp$|^alt\.free\.newsservers',
MD5RateCutoff => 3,
PHNRateBaseInterval => 1800,
PHRRateBaseInterval => 1800,
maxgroups => 6,
low_xpost_maxgroups => 3,
meow_ext_maxgroups => 2,
low_xpost_groups => 'test|jobs|forsale',
reject_suspect_cancels => 1,
);

Best regards
Gabx


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Nigel Reed wrote:

cleanfeed.stats

The location of cleanfeeds.stats can be changed in the cleanfeed/etc/cleanfeed.local file.

If it's not there, copy your cleanfeed config into that directory and
change the local_config sub as required.

I have sort this issue out as i say in this post <[email protected]>
but looking at LIST command i have still default ngroups:

6 [12:33:31] gabriel1@xnibiru25: ~ $ nc news.tcpreset.net 119
200 news.tcpreset.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.6.4 ready (posting ok) LIST
215 Newsgroups in form "group high low status"
control 0000000000 0000000001 n
control.cancel 0000000000 0000000001 n
control.checkgroups 0000000000 0000000001 n
control.newgroup 0000000000 0000000001 n
control.rmgroup 0000000000 0000000001 n
junk 0000000000 0000000001 n
local.general 0000000000 0000000001 y
local.test 0000000001 0000000001 y
.

I have restored default filter_innd.pl but apparently it hasn't changed anything yet.

Gabx

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Thus spake Gabx <[email protected]>

I have sort this issue out as i say in this post <[email protected]>
but looking at LIST command i have still default ngroups:

Cleanfeed does in no way affect the content of your active file.
You have to define the groups either one by one using

ctlinnd newgroup /group.name/ m for moderated groups ot
ctlinnd newgroup /group.name/ y for unmoderated groups.

There is also a utility named actsync installed with INN, which
uses two control files:

actsync.cnf and actsync.ign.

Please read man actsync for a documentation.

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Thus spake Ray Banana <[email protected]>

Cleanfeed does in no way affect the content of your active file.
You have to define the groups either one by one using

ctlinnd newgroup /group.name/ m for moderated groups ot
ctlinnd newgroup /group.name/ y for unmoderated groups.

There is also a utility named actsync installed with INN, which
uses two control files:

actsync.cnf and actsync.ign.

Please read man actsync for a documentation.

Additional information:

A quick and dirty(probably) way to update your active way would be to
download the active file from isc.org, gunzip it and *append* it
to your current active file:

1. Stop your INN server
2. make a copy of your current active file, just in case
2. wget ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/CONFIG/active.gz
3. gunzip active.gz
4. cat active >> /var/lib/news/active (this should be the path for your distribution)
^^ -> append to the existing active file
5. Start INN and issue a LIST command to verify

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Thus spake Ray Banana <[email protected]>

Cleanfeed does in no way affect the content of your active file.
You have to define the groups either one by one using

ctlinnd newgroup /group.name/ m for moderated groups ot
ctlinnd newgroup /group.name/ y for unmoderated groups.

There is also a utility named actsync installed with INN, which
uses two control files:

actsync.cnf and actsync.ign.

Please read man actsync for a documentation.

Additional information:

A quick and dirty(probably) way to update your active file would be to
download the active file from isc.org, gunzip it and *append* it
to your current active file:

1. Stop your INN server
2. make a copy of your current active file, just in case
2. wget ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/CONFIG/active.gz
3. gunzip active.gz
4. cat active >> /var/lib/news/active (this should be the path for your distribution)
^^ -> append to the existing active file
5. Start INN and issue a LIST command to verify

hth

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Ray Banana wrote:

As far as I can see, your server has rejected all all articles sent by Eternal-September so far.

https://feeder.eternal-september.org/stats/innfeed_status.html#news-in.tcpreset.net

What could be the cause of this?

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Ray Banana wrote:

1. Stop your INN server
2. make a copy of your current active file, just in case
2. wget ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/CONFIG/active.gz
3. gunzip active.gz
4. cat active >> /var/lib/news/active (this should be the path for your distribution)
^^ -> append to the existing active file
5. Start INN and issue a LIST command to verify

It worked but without append >>

Mar 29 16:00:15 news.tcpreset.net innd[1589512]: SERVER duplicate_group
control
Mar 29 16:00:15 news.tcpreset.net innd[1589512]: SERVER bad_active
control 0000000000 0000000001 n control.cancel 0000000000 0000000001 n contr.....

Best regards

Gabx


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Thus spake Gabx <[email protected]>

[...]

It worked but without append >>

Mar 29 16:00:15 news.tcpreset.net innd[1589512]: SERVER
duplicate_group control
Mar 29 16:00:15 news.tcpreset.net innd[1589512]: SERVER bad_active
control 0000000000 0000000001 n control.cancel 0000000000 0000000001 n contr.....

Ooops, I should have taken a closer look ...

Anyway, this looks much better:

news-in.tcpreset.net
Addr 1 : IPv6 2a01:4f8:c0c:2f94::1
Addr 2 : IPv4 94.130.76.71
seconds: 42874 art. timeout: 86400 ip name: news-in.tcpreset.net
offered: 3758 resp. timeout: 300 port: 119
accepted: 458 want streaming: yes active cxns: 1
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Ray Banana wrote:

1. Stop your INN server
2. make a copy of your current active file, just in case
2. wget ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/CONFIG/active.gz
3. gunzip active.gz
4. cat active >> /var/lib/news/active (this should be the path for your distribution)
^^ -> append to the existing active file
5. Start INN and issue a LIST command to verify

I haven't managed to download articles yet!

Mar 29 17:32:53 news nnrpd[1593721]: cloud.virebent.art group alt.privacy.anon-server 0

Newsgroups seems empty.

Regards
Gabx


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Thus spake Gabx <[email protected]>

I haven't managed to download articles yet!

Mar 29 17:32:53 news nnrpd[1593721]: cloud.virebent.art group alt.privacy.anon-server 0

Newsgroups seems empty.

There is now 1 article in this group and 14 in
news.lists.filters. Please bear in mind that no older articles are
transferred when a feed is set up, only articles that arrived after the
peer was added to the newsfeeds file are taken into account.

By the way, your server is now open for posting to everybody. Do you
consider implementing antispam measures/posting restrictions?

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On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 10:23:01 +0100
Gabx <[email protected]> wrote:

cleanfeed.stats

The location of cleanfeeds.stats can be changed in the cleanfeed/etc/cleanfeed.local file.

If it's not there, copy your cleanfeed config into that directory and
change the local_config sub as required.


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Nigel Reed wrote:

On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 10:23:01 +0100
Gabx <[email protected]> wrote:

These the logs:

https://cryptpad.virebent.art/pad/#/3/pad/edit/7fd9532edbda8155be605b40da8522a5/

Gabx

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Ivo Gandolfo wrote:

Gab prima di aprire un server toccherebbe informarsi un pochettino,
studiare, fare un setup di fino che tutto funzioni e poi solo a questo
punto chiedere un peering...

Hai ragione
ho cominciato che doveva essere un test, infatti.
Ma poi � sorta la necessit� di vedere almeno un peering attivo per
comprendere delle funzioni che altrimenti sarebbero rimaste teoria .
Il coraggio non mi manca.

ma per aiutarti ti ho preparato questo: http://www.bofh.team/grabbaeprendi.tar.gz

Grazie, :)
adesso lo scarico, guardero gli scripts e quello che fanno, ti contatto
in privato alla mai del from di questo post?.
Servirebbe a popolare i newsgroups del mio serverino, suppongo,
50GB disponibili, pochi.

Posso aggiungere 200GB, considerate le mie scarse finanze, sigh!.

Al suo interno contiene 2 directory, sync e PAGANINI. Il primo serve a prendersi l'active da un'altro server (quindi tutti i gruppi di quel
server) e te li crea localmente.

Qui vuoi dire che scarica l active file?
Sto utilizzando questo ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/CONFIG/active.gz, per un
server di gerarchie di solo testo.

Se vuoi c'� anche il secondo (che utilizza il file creato dal primo) e
prende anche tutti i post dal server remoto e te li mette localmente.
OCIO! usalo con cautela, potrebbe riempirti l'harddisk molto
rapidamente, se il server da cui prendi la roba � abbastanza grosso da
avere parecchia storia.
Per darti una statistica il mio server pubblico (paganini) che tiene l'history di almeno 6 anni (solo gruppi testuali) supera abbondantemente
1TB di spazio consumato. fontana invece che � il server privato e tiene un'history di 25+anni supera abbondantemente i 10TB.

Non ce la posso fare, per un minimo di decenza servirebbero gli articoli
di tutte le gerarchie vecchi di una settimana, 10 giorni almeno, no?

Non ti spiego per filo e per segno cosa fanno i singoli file (sono tutti script perl o python) ma sono abbastanza leggibili se sai programmare.
Se ti serve help scrivimi in privato via email ma non aspettarti
risposte rapidissime (sono parecchio occupato).

D'accordo gentilissimo.

Altro consiglio: se ti serve help per configurare nnrpd fuori da INN non
hai che da chiedere anche qui in privato. E ti consiglio di installarti acme.sh e farti generare i certificati da lui tramite script, in modo
che siano sempre funzionali (il tuo server ancora d� errore TLS).

Me ne sono accorto.
Ne avro bisogno.

Inoltre se intendi configurare un open-server come ho fatto io

Si.

dei filtri, altrimenti il tuo bel serverino verr� trasformato in una
gruviera abbastanza rapidamente (i rompi@@ sono abbastanza all'ordine
del giorno, io su paganini per mantenerlo pulito sudo le proverbiali 7 camicie). Io utilizzo una mia versione di postfilter che funziona

Lo trovo su github il tuo postfilter ?
Sto per utilizzare spamassassin che ne dici?

C'� gi� troppa rumenta che gira (purtroppo).

Belin, Zena !.

Sincerely

A maronna t'accumpagne!

Gabx
Napl

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Ray Banana wrote:

actsync.cnf and actsync.ign.

Please read man actsync for a documentation.
Looking at hierarchies list:

http://usenet.trigofacile.com/hierarchies/

what are the most used text hierarchies?
I would add alt.* it.* which are the ones I use.

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