• Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?

    From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 11 01:19:45 2023
    Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to

    https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html

    To get the pgp however the site times out.

    What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?

    Ref: message-id uim0br$uu$[email protected]



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  • From Jesse Rehmer@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 11 11:28:04 2023
    On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45 AM CST, "Nigel Reed" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to

    https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html

    To get the pgp however the site times out.

    What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?

    Ref: message-id uim0br$uu$[email protected]

    Site loads fine here.

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to Jesse Rehmer on Sat Nov 11 14:36:02 2023
    Jesse Rehmer wrote:
    On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45 AM CST, "Nigel Reed" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to

    https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html

    To get the pgp however the site times out.

    What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?

    Ref: message-id uim0br$uu$[email protected]

    Site loads fine here.


    I went there out of idle curiosity and even the "The public key can be
    imported from:" link worked just fine. This was with Seamonkey, a
    browser which has timeout problems with a fair proportion of sites.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Jesse Rehmer on Sat Nov 11 15:18:24 2023
    On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:28:04 -0000 (UTC), Jesse Rehmer <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45?AM CST, "Nigel Reed" <[email protected]> wrote:
    Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to
    https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
    To get the pgp however the site times out.
    What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?
    Ref: message-id uim0br$uu$[email protected]

    Site loads fine here.

    (using Tor Browser 13.0.1)
    https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
    NoceM issued by pasdenom.info
    [email protected] sends NoCems of the type:
    site -> rare manual notices
    spam -> 99.99% spam
    spam2 -> spam with rare false positives
    spam3 -> spam with false positives
    spam4 -> spam with slightly more false positives
    The types spam, spam2, spam3 and spam4 get a score from spamassassin,
    the higher the number the lower the threshold, the greater the risk
    of a legitimate article being considered spam.
    The public key can be imported from:nono.asc >https://pasdenom.info/gpg/nono.asc
    Here is an example of a note
    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165087803400
    [end quote]

    ...@googlegroups... = ...@googlespam...

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  • From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to Jesse Rehmer on Sun Nov 12 02:31:00 2023
    On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:28:04 -0000 (UTC)
    Jesse Rehmer <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45 AM CST, "Nigel Reed"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to

    https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html

    To get the pgp however the site times out.

    What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?

    Ref: message-id uim0br$uu$[email protected]

    Site loads fine here.

    Add, I tried it on a couple of browsers on a couple of operating
    systems and no dice. I tried lynx on a a different server and it pulls
    up. Maybe my IP block is firewalled or something.

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to Andrew on Sun Nov 12 14:08:57 2023
    Andrew wrote:
    Nigel Reed wrote:
    On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:28:04 -0000 (UTC)
    Jesse Rehmer <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45 AM CST, "Nigel Reed"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to

    https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html

    To get the pgp however the site times out.

    What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?

    Ref: message-id uim0br$uu$[email protected]

    Site loads fine here.

    Add, I tried it on a couple of browsers on a couple of operating
    systems and no dice. I tried lynx on a a different server and it pulls
    up. Maybe my IP block is firewalled or something.


    What does traceroute say?

    It won't be incredibly helpful, I did a "ping -c 4 pasdenom.info" and
    saw that the site appears to eat "ping" requests.

    sudo traceroute pasdenom.info
    [sudo] password for root:
    traceroute to pasdenom.info (82.66.60.35), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  192.168.178.1 (192.168.178.1)  0.343 ms  0.284 ms  0.381 ms
     2  * * *
     3  [city gateway for my ISP]  12.066 ms  12.033 ms  17.131 ms
     4  145.253.48.220 (145.253.48.220)  19.395 ms  25.272 ms  19.327 ms
     5  decix.proxad.net (80.81.192.223)  18.085 ms  18.051 ms  17.071 ms

    And that was it.  My browser was happy connecting to the site during
    these tests and I assume my problem is that the site rejects pings.

    Sorry, what I meant to add is that I had a similar problem with one site
    a year or two ago. It was the update repository for my Linux
    distribution so this was a really big deal after a couple of days. This
    turned out to be a "you can't get there from here via that route" problem. Unfortunately I can't find out (or remember) how I fixed it. https://forums.opensuse.org/t/unable-to-connect-to-repositories/120346/16
    looks to be essentially the same problem (and the one that I had), their solution was to turn the router off and then on again.

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Sun Nov 12 13:45:57 2023
    Nigel Reed wrote:
    On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:28:04 -0000 (UTC)
    Jesse Rehmer <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45 AM CST, "Nigel Reed"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to

    https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html

    To get the pgp however the site times out.

    What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?

    Ref: message-id uim0br$uu$[email protected]

    Site loads fine here.

    Add, I tried it on a couple of browsers on a couple of operating
    systems and no dice. I tried lynx on a a different server and it pulls
    up. Maybe my IP block is firewalled or something.


    What does traceroute say?

    It won't be incredibly helpful, I did a "ping -c 4 pasdenom.info" and
    saw that the site appears to eat "ping" requests.

    sudo traceroute pasdenom.info
    [sudo] password for root:
    traceroute to pasdenom.info (82.66.60.35), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
    1 192.168.178.1 (192.168.178.1) 0.343 ms 0.284 ms 0.381 ms
    2 * * *
    3 [city gateway for my ISP] 12.066 ms 12.033 ms 17.131 ms
    4 145.253.48.220 (145.253.48.220) 19.395 ms 25.272 ms 19.327 ms
    5 decix.proxad.net (80.81.192.223) 18.085 ms 18.051 ms 17.071 ms

    And that was it. My browser was happy connecting to the site during
    these tests and I assume my problem is that the site rejects pings.

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  • From David Ritz@21:1/5 to Andrew on Sun Nov 12 13:51:04 2023
    This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

    On Sunday, 12 November 2023 13:45 +0100,
    in article <uiqhe6$2qu5h$[email protected]>,
    Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:

    Nigel Reed wrote:
    On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:28:04 -0000 (UTC)
    Jesse Rehmer <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45 AM CST, "Nigel Reed" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to

    https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html

    To get the pgp however the site times out.

    What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?

    Ref: message-id uim0br$uu$[email protected]

    Site loads fine here.

    Add, I tried it on a couple of browsers on a couple of operating
    systems and no dice. I tried lynx on a a different server and it pulls
    up. Maybe my IP block is firewalled or something.


    What does traceroute say?

    It won't be incredibly helpful, I did a "ping -c 4 pasdenom.info" and saw that
    the site appears to eat "ping" requests.

    sudo traceroute pasdenom.info
    [sudo] password for root:
    traceroute to pasdenom.info (82.66.60.35), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
    1 192.168.178.1 (192.168.178.1) 0.343 ms 0.284 ms 0.381 ms
    2 * * *
    3 [city gateway for my ISP] 12.066 ms 12.033 ms 17.131 ms
    4 145.253.48.220 (145.253.48.220) 19.395 ms 25.272 ms 19.327 ms
    5 decix.proxad.net (80.81.192.223) 18.085 ms 18.051 ms 17.071 ms

    And that was it. My browser was happy connecting to the site during these tests and I assume my problem is that the site rejects pings.

    $ dig +short NS pasdenom.info
    ns-188-a.gandi.net.
    ns-181-c.gandi.net.
    ns-217-b.gandi.net.

    $ dig pasdenom.info @ns-181-c.gandi.net | grep -E ^pasdenom.info.\*A pasdenom.info. 300 IN A 82.66.60.35

    $ ping -c2 82.66.60.35
    PING 82.66.60.35 (82.66.60.35) 56(84) bytes of data.

    --- 82.66.60.35 ping statistics ---
    2 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 999ms

    $ mtr -nrz 82.66.60.35
    Start: Sun Nov 12 19:32:11 2023
    HOST: X-X Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev [...]
    10. AS1299 62.115.118.63 0.0% 10 8.2 22.1 7.8 140.3 41.6
    11. AS1299 62.115.46.69 0.0% 10 7.9 8.1 7.9 8.4 0.0
    12. AS??? ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

    % mtr -nrzP 119 119 82.66.60.35
    Start: 2023-11-12T14:46:10-0500
    [...]
    Start: 2023-11-12T14:46:28-0500
    HOST: X.X.X Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev [...]]
    7. AS174 130.117.3.34 0.0% 10 77.6 77.8 77.5 78.3 0.2
    8. AS174 149.11.115.14 0.0% 10 81.1 82.2 80.9 92.7 3.7
    9. AS??? ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

    It seems they are intentionally attempting to make things more difficult.

    --
    David Ritz <[email protected]>
  • From Adam W.@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Mon Nov 13 01:38:41 2023
    Nigel Reed <[email protected]> wrote:

    What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?

    Here's the key downloaded from the link you provided:

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  • From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to David Ritz on Mon Nov 13 00:52:13 2023
    On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:51:04 -0600
    David Ritz <[email protected]> wrote:


    It seems they are intentionally attempting to make things more
    difficult.

    No worries, I got to it via a different network on another server.
    Thanks for the in depth debugging tho.




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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YiSBHb29kIEd1eSDwn5iJ?@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 13 18:00:00 2023
    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    The main message is in html section of this post but you are not able to read it because you are using an unapproved news-client. Please try these links to amuse youself:

    <https://i.imgur.com/Fk6rn62.png>
    <https://i.imgur.com/Mxpx9bh.png>
    <https://i.imgur.com/8y9HXmL.png>


    --
    https://tinyurl.com/4d8mmzps
    https://shorturl.at/CW135
    https://www.temu.com/us
    https://www.ibuypower.com/
    https://www.rshtech.com/
    https://odysee.com/
    https://b4ukraine.org/
    https://www.eff.org/



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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/11/2023 07:19, Nigel Reed wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
    cite="mid:[email protected]">
    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">
    What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?
    </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    I would put it this way:<br>
    <br>
    "What's the point of posting nocem messages if nobody reads them or
    acts on them?"<br>
    <br>
    The answer could be to replace Google-Spam with this nocem nonsense
    to infuriate users on these newsgroups in the belief that people
    hate google spam but they won't hate nocem crap.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="top">Arrest</div>
    <div class="bottom">Dictator Putin</div>
    <br>
    <div class="top">We Stand</div>
    <div class="bottom">With Ukraine</div>
    <br>
    <div class="top border1">Stop Putin</div>
    <div class="bottom border">Ukraine Under Attack</div>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tinyurl.com/4d8mmzps">https://tinyurl.com/4d8mmzps</a><br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://shorturl.at/CW135">https://shorturl.at/CW135</a><br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.temu.com/us">https://www.temu.com/us</a><br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ibuypower.com/">https://www.ibuypower.com/</a><br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.rshtech.com/">https://www.rshtech.com/</a><br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://odysee.com/">https://odysee.com/</a><br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://b4ukraine.org/">https://b4ukraine.org/</a><br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.eff.org/">https://www.eff.org/</a><br>
    <br>
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  • From D@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Nov 13 19:53:51 2023
    On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:00:00 +0000, ? Good Guy ? <[email protected]> wrote:
    We Stand

    si "we" n'existait pas ils pourraient simplement les inventer

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  • From David Ritz@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Mon Nov 13 15:04:56 2023
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    On Monday, 13 November 2023 00:52 -0600,
    in article <[email protected]>,
    Nigel Reed <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:51:04 -0600
    David Ritz <[email protected]> wrote:

    It seems they are intentionally attempting to make things more
    difficult.

    No worries, I got to it via a different network on another server.
    Thanks for the in depth debugging tho.

    Some of their techniques, including a 300 second TTL for the domain,
    fall within the realm of what I refer to as stupid spammer tricks.

    $ dig @ns-181-c.gandi.net pasdenom.info | grep -E ^pasdenom.info.\*A pasdenom.info. 300 IN A 82.66.60.35
    ^^^

    $ nmap -p 25,80,119,443,563 pasdenom.info

    Starting Nmap 5.51 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2023-11-13 20:XX UTC
    Nmap scan report for pasdenom.info (82.66.60.35)
    Host is up (0.26s latency).
    rDNS record for 82.66.60.35: usenet.pasdenom.info
    PORT STATE SERVICE
    25/tcp filtered smtp
    80/tcp open http
    119/tcp open nntp
    443/tcp open https
    563/tcp open snews

    Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 3.21 seconds

    While pasdenom.info is configured to receive email (Mail eXchange),
    they specify no IP address from which they are designated to send, ie.
    no SPF record.

    $ dig +short MX pasdenom.info
    50 fb.mail.gandi.net.
    10 spool.mail.gandi.net.

    $ dig +short TXT pasdenom.info "google-site-verification=ToBiCiESEmzVbbt0xzpJ-qRmHDlwBpytL2cgfDJMCU8"

    - --
    David Ritz <[email protected]>
    "There will be more spam." -- Paul Vixie

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  • From Jesse Rehmer@21:1/5 to David Ritz on Tue Nov 14 01:31:12 2023
    On Nov 13, 2023 at 3:04:56 PM CST, "David Ritz" <[email protected]> wrote:

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    On Monday, 13 November 2023 00:52 -0600,
    in article <[email protected]>,
    Nigel Reed <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:51:04 -0600
    David Ritz <[email protected]> wrote:

    It seems they are intentionally attempting to make things more
    difficult.

    No worries, I got to it via a different network on another server.
    Thanks for the in depth debugging tho.

    Some of their techniques, including a 300 second TTL for the domain,
    fall within the realm of what I refer to as stupid spammer tricks.

    $ dig @ns-181-c.gandi.net pasdenom.info | grep -E ^pasdenom.info.\*A pasdenom.info. 300 IN A 82.66.60.35
    ^^^

    $ nmap -p 25,80,119,443,563 pasdenom.info

    Starting Nmap 5.51 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2023-11-13 20:XX UTC
    Nmap scan report for pasdenom.info (82.66.60.35)
    Host is up (0.26s latency).
    rDNS record for 82.66.60.35: usenet.pasdenom.info
    PORT STATE SERVICE
    25/tcp filtered smtp
    80/tcp open http
    119/tcp open nntp
    443/tcp open https
    563/tcp open snews

    Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 3.21 seconds

    While pasdenom.info is configured to receive email (Mail eXchange),
    they specify no IP address from which they are designated to send, ie.
    no SPF record.

    $ dig +short MX pasdenom.info
    50 fb.mail.gandi.net.
    10 spool.mail.gandi.net.

    $ dig +short TXT pasdenom.info "google-site-verification=ToBiCiESEmzVbbt0xzpJ-qRmHDlwBpytL2cgfDJMCU8"

    - --
    David Ritz <[email protected]>
    "There will be more spam." -- Paul Vixie

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    AWS and other large Cloud providers would disagree as it is their default TTL.

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  • From yamo'@21:1/5 to Nigel Reed on Tue Nov 14 11:45:05 2023
    Hi,

    Nigel Reed a tapoté le 11/11/2023 08:19:
    Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to

    https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html

    I have trouble with bots with news2web.pasdenom.info so I had to
    configure fail2ban...

    I may works now for you IP...

    Could you try on the http version?

    <http://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html> or <http://pasdenom.info/nocem.html>


    --
    Stéphane

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  • From David Ritz@21:1/5 to Jesse Rehmer on Tue Nov 14 18:54:38 2023
    This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

    On Tuesday, 14 November 2023 01:31 -0000,
    in article <uiuil0$2abb$[email protected]>,
    Jesse Rehmer <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Nov 13, 2023 at 3:04:56 PM CST, "David Ritz" <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]

    Some of their techniques, including a 300 second TTL for the domain,
    fall within the realm of what I refer to as stupid spammer tricks.

    $ dig @ns-181-c.gandi.net pasdenom.info | grep -E ^pasdenom.info.\*A
    pasdenom.info. 300 IN A 82.66.60.35

    [...]

    AWS and other large Cloud providers would disagree as it is their
    default TTL.

    DNS TTL is determined by the Name Server for the domain in question.
    While AWS may provide DNS, with a default of five minute TTL, this is
    far from being written in stone. For example, the dnspod.com servers
    provide a default of 600 seconds (10 minutes) TTL, even when the
    domain in question is hosted in the AWS cloud.

    It's been a while, but I used to observe Fast Flux botnet controllers
    using AWS load balancing, to be assigned a fresh IP address, every
    sixty seconds, maximum. While short TTLs do not necessarily scream
    bad actors, it may certainly be employed as a weighting factor.

    --
    David Ritz <[email protected]>
    "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles a cockroach,
    except that the cockroach is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
    - Peter Olson, Delphi Information Engineer; 27-AUG-1998

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  • From Jesse Rehmer@21:1/5 to David Ritz on Wed Nov 15 02:46:13 2023
    On Nov 14, 2023 at 6:54:38 PM CST, "David Ritz" <[email protected]> wrote:


    On Tuesday, 14 November 2023 01:31 -0000,
    in article <uiuil0$2abb$[email protected]>,
    Jesse Rehmer <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Nov 13, 2023 at 3:04:56 PM CST, "David Ritz" <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]

    Some of their techniques, including a 300 second TTL for the domain,
    fall within the realm of what I refer to as stupid spammer tricks.

    $ dig @ns-181-c.gandi.net pasdenom.info | grep -E ^pasdenom.info.\*A
    pasdenom.info. 300 IN A 82.66.60.35

    [...]

    AWS and other large Cloud providers would disagree as it is their
    default TTL.

    DNS TTL is determined by the Name Server for the domain in question.
    While AWS may provide DNS, with a default of five minute TTL, this is
    far from being written in stone. For example, the dnspod.com servers
    provide a default of 600 seconds (10 minutes) TTL, even when the
    domain in question is hosted in the AWS cloud.

    It's been a while, but I used to observe Fast Flux botnet controllers
    using AWS load balancing, to be assigned a fresh IP address, every
    sixty seconds, maximum. While short TTLs do not necessarily scream
    bad actors, it may certainly be employed as a weighting factor.

    Let me be more specific, AWS Route53 uses it as the default TTL.

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