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    From Robert@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 14 23:41:38 2022
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  • From Ulf Kutzner@21:1/5 to Robert on Wed Feb 16 07:41:12 2022
    Robert schrieb am Dienstag, 15. Februar 2022 um 00:41:40 UTC+1:

    S-Bahn accident near Munich: Two S-Bahn trains collided near Schäftlarn
    on Monday (February 14, 2022) at around 4:35 p.m.

    One dead and many injured in the S-Bahn accident in the Munich district:
    the police speak of a low, double-digit number of injuries and at least
    one death.

    Eyewitnesses report strange driving behavior on the S-Bahn , which was coming from Munich in the direction of Wolfratshausen. It was stopped
    again and again."

    It is believed that


    one of the trains had a SPAD while leaving the platform.
    Driver overrided an automatic stop after coming to a halt without contacting the signaller although that is compulsory in such cases.

    It is not know whether the automatic stop was caused by the 2000 Hz
    system next to the exit signal itself or by too fast aproach to this signal after restarting after having passed a 500 Hz system that controls a 25
    km/h maximum speed on close approach to a signal still on danger position.

    The S-Bahn train running in the other direction and approaching the station
    had the station entry signal okay but that switched to danger on the run
    as the other train in the station violated the protected way either by SPAD either by passing the exit switch. So, the driver of the train approaching
    the station activated braking and got to a stop about 50 metres after the
    entry signal. He started a phone discussion with the signalman. The
    pre-signal told the train would be allowed to enter the station, so there
    was no overspeed.

    Regards, ULF

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  • From Robert@21:1/5 to Ulf Kutzner on Wed Feb 16 20:00:27 2022
    On 16/02/2022 15:41, Ulf Kutzner wrote:

    So, the driver of the train approaching
    the station activated braking and got to a stop about 50 metres after the entry signal. He started a phone discussion with the signalman. The pre-signal told the train would be allowed to enter the station, so there
    was no overspeed.

    So - if I understand this correctly - this train was at a stop when the
    'SPAD' S-Bahn train ran into it?

    Cheers,
    --
    Rob
    "I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational
    in order to prove that you care, or, indeed, why it should be necessary
    to prove it at all." - Avon, Blake's 7

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  • From Ulf Kutzner@21:1/5 to Robert on Wed Feb 16 23:47:33 2022
    Robert schrieb am Mittwoch, 16. Februar 2022 um 21:00:29 UTC+1:
    On 16/02/2022 15:41, Ulf Kutzner wrote:

    So, the driver of the train approaching
    the station activated braking and got to a stop about 50 metres after the entry signal. He started a phone discussion with the signalman. The pre-signal told the train would be allowed to enter the station, so there was no overspeed.

    So - if I understand this correctly - this train was at a stop when the 'SPAD' S-Bahn train ran into it?

    Yes, indeed.

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