• Social Security worksheet to find taxable amount ONE THIRD of it SOLVED

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 30 13:03:00 2025
    Never mind. I see that the needed worksheet is included in the 1040 instructions book. Now I remember that that's been true in the past
    too.

    But I still thought you might like this story, and questions a and c
    were less important but still could use answers:

    This year to calcullate the taxable portion of my Social Security, I
    dl'd the Social Security Benefits Worksheet�Lines 5a and 5b. This form
    was directly referred to in the 1040 instructions.

    a) Less important than b: When I got to the bottom, add this, multiply
    this, compare this, over and over, I had no idea what the goal was, how
    the calculations arrived at some statutory or reasonable or even
    unreasonable goal as to how much should be taxable. In fact I got two
    separate deductions from gross income for being single. (and others also
    get two, just different amounts.) Does anyone know the goal of the calculations?

    b) and then I noticed the almost final line instruction: "Also enter
    this amount on Form 1040, line 5b . . . . . . . . . ". but it actually
    goes into line *6*b. How could they get that wrong?

    And then I noticed more of the heading, "2018 Form 1040�Lines 5a and
    5b". 2018!!!!!!
    I got this form straight from the IRS. https://apps.irs.gov/app/vita/content/globalmedia/social_security_benefits_worksheet_1040i.pdf
    It was the second hit in google and the first that seemed to apply: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=social+security+worksheet+irs
    (although I know google gives different results to different people.)

    The first hit was https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/n703.pdf Notice 703
    (Rev. November 2024)
    Read This To See if Your Social Security Benefits May Be Taxable.
    But it's not a worksheet and doesnt' reach an amount.
    It refers to IRS Pub. 915 and Social Security Benefits in your 2024
    federal income tax return instructions. Aha! That's where it is. They
    really should get rid of that one from 2018!!

    c) How come the computerized service at Social Security, to learn the
    total paid, is not 24/7. It has a lot of hours, "Online Services Hours
    of Service: Monday - Friday 4:15 AM - 1 AM ET | Saturday 5 AM - 11 PM
    ET | Sunday 8 AM - 11:30 PM ET" but it's a computer: Why not 23 or
    24/7?

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