• De minimis financial incentives

    From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 29 17:53:13 2024
    I'm subscribed to several IRS mailing lists in which guidance and other
    issues are announced. I skim through it in case it's applicable.

    I found this fact sheet confusing.

    https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/USIRS/bulletins/3b1e278

    It's an alert that de minimis financial incentives given to employees to encourage their participation in certain retirement plans, a provision
    of SECURE 2.0 Act, might affect how W-2s and similar payroll information returns are prepared.

    Huh?

    The whole point of deminimis rules is that it's not large enough to
    be reported.

    There's a reference to a notice published in an issue of Internal
    Revenue Bulletin that makes the issue clearer.

    https://www.irs.gov/irb/2024-02_IRB#NOT-2024-2

    Read Q&A D-1 through D-6. De minimis is "does not exceed $250 in value".

    That makes more sense.

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  • From Taxed and Spent@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Fri Aug 30 10:00:39 2024
    On 8/29/2024 2:53 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    I'm subscribed to several IRS mailing lists in which guidance and other issues are announced. I skim through it in case it's applicable.

    I found this fact sheet confusing.

    https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/USIRS/bulletins/3b1e278

    It's an alert that de minimis financial incentives given to employees to encourage their participation in certain retirement plans, a provision
    of SECURE 2.0 Act, might affect how W-2s and similar payroll information returns are prepared.

    Huh?

    The whole point of deminimis rules is that it's not large enough to
    be reported.

    There's a reference to a notice published in an issue of Internal
    Revenue Bulletin that makes the issue clearer.

    https://www.irs.gov/irb/2024-02_IRB#NOT-2024-2

    Read Q&A D-1 through D-6. De minimis is "does not exceed $250 in value".

    That makes more sense.


    So, as I understand it, here De minimus is not that is its not large
    enough to be reported as taxable income, but that it is not large enough
    to violate the contingent benefit rule and which would otherwise void
    the entire deferred compensation arrangement.

    Good find, thanks.

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