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  • 1099-K $600 reporting threshold delayed again; won't apply to 2023

    From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 21 11:04:29 2023
    The threshold to report third-party settlements on 1099-K will not be
    lowered to $600 for 2023. The threshold is over $20,000 with more than
    200 transactions.

    They are planning to lower the threshold to $5,000 for 2024 but no
    announcement has been made.

    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-announces-delay-in-form-1099-k-reporting-threshold-for-third-party-platform-payments-in-2023-plans-for-a-threshold-of-5000-for-2024-to-phase-in-implementation

    https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-23-74.pdf

    https://www.irs.gov/businesses/understanding-your-form-1099-k

    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-announces-2023-form-1099-k-reporting-threshold-delay-for-third-party-platform-payments-plans-for-a-5000-threshold-in-2024-to-phase-in-implementation

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  • From Rick@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Fri Dec 22 10:56:10 2023
    "Adam H. Kerman" wrote in message news:um0upl$10o2p$[email protected]...

    The threshold to report third-party settlements on 1099-K will not be
    lowered to $600 for 2023. The threshold is over $20,000 with more than
    200 transactions.

    They are planning to lower the threshold to $5,000 for 2024 but no >announcement has been made.

    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-announces-delay-in-form-1099-k-reporting-threshold-for-third-party-platform-payments-in-2023-plans-for-a-threshold-of-5000-for-2024-to-phase-in-implementation

    https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-23-74.pdf

    https://www.irs.gov/businesses/understanding-your-form-1099-k

    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-announces-2023-form-1099-k-reporting-threshold-delay-for-third-party-platform-payments-plans-for-a-5000-threshold-in-2024-to-phase-in-implementation


    Any word on whether the $5000 minimum for 2024 will also include a set
    minimum number of transactions?

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Rick on Fri Dec 22 16:56:02 2023
    Rick <[email protected]> wrote:
    Adam H. Kerman:

    The threshold to report third-party settlements on 1099-K will not be >>lowered to $600 for 2023. The threshold is over $20,000 with more than
    200 transactions.

    They are planning to lower the threshold to $5,000 for 2024 but no >>announcement has been made.

    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-announces-delay-in-form-1099-k-reporting-threshold-for-third-party-platform-payments-in-2023-plans-for-a-threshold-of-5000-for-2024-to-phase-in-implementation

    https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-23-74.pdf

    https://www.irs.gov/businesses/understanding-your-form-1099-k

    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-announces-2023-form-1099-k-reporting-threshold-delay-for-third-party-platform-payments-plans-for-a-5000-threshold-in-2024-to-phase-in-implementation

    Any word on whether the $5000 minimum for 2024 will also include a set >minimum number of transactions?

    If I understand the law correctly, Treasury doesn't have that kind of flexibility with an interim regulation. The law itself removed
    considering a minimum number of transactions. It's just a $600
    threshold.

    Regardless, I haven't noticed a reference to a proposed interim
    regulation published in the Federal Register, but I haven't looked in
    the Federal Register itself.

    I continue to believe that Treasury is stalling, hoping Congress will
    repeal the provision and that it can revert to what it had been.

    I almost wrote IRS and not Treasury. Yes, I know that IRS is precluded
    from writing its own regulations and that they must be written at the
    Treasury level.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Thu Apr 18 13:42:24 2024
    Adam H. Kerman <[email protected]> wrote:

    The threshold to report third-party settlements on 1099-K will not be
    lowered to $600 for 2023. The threshold is over $20,000 with more than
    200 transactions.

    They are planning to lower the threshold to $5,000 for 2024 but no >announcement has been made.

    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-announces-delay-in-form-1099-k-reporting-threshold-for-third-party-platform-payments-in-2023-plans-for-a-threshold-of-5000-for-2024-to-phase-in-implementation

    https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-23-74.pdf

    https://www.irs.gov/businesses/understanding-your-form-1099-k

    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-announces-2023-form-1099-k-reporting-threshold-delay-for-third-party-platform-payments-plans-for-a-5000-threshold-in-2024-to-phase-in-implementation

    There have been developments over the last two months. IRS has issued
    FAQs and general guidance to payees on reporting. Certain guidance was
    updated February 6, 2024, including Fact Sheet 2024-03 FAQs, which
    include helpful examples and distinguish payments for card transactions
    (which have never had a minimum threshold for reporting) and payments
    from third party settlement organizations and payment entities.

    https://www.irs.gov/pub/taxpros/fs-2024-03.pdf

    There's a new continuous use Form 1099-K and instructions and
    Publication 5951 IRS Form 1099-K MYTHS vs FACTS. All three have March
    2024 revision dates.

    The paper Form 1099-K is NCR and there's a copy for IRS to scan with
    red dropout ink. Other than to see an example of the form or possibly to
    issue extraneous copies that for some reason weren't filed
    electronically, I cannot imagine who would use the paper form, given
    that with a threshold of 10 forms to file, there is an electronic filing requirement.

    Also, there are updated Web pages.

    https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-form-1099-k https://www.irs.gov/businesses/what-to-do-with-form-1099-k https://www.irs.gov/businesses/understanding-your-form-1099-k https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/form-1099-k-faqs-should-my-organization-be-preparing-filing-and-furnishing-form-1099-k
    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/form-1099-k-faqs

    The FAQs are broken up into several Web pages but on the PDF, it's one document.

    They want all information on a 1099-K to be reported. It's not clear to
    me if this is a suggestion or mandatory.

    If the 1099-K was received in error and a corrected one wasn't issued,
    report on Schedule 1. Part I Line 8z Other Income, report the error,
    and the adjustment on Part II Line 24z Other Adjustments. Use the same
    lines if a personal item was sold at a loss but the adjustment cannot
    exceed the income as the loss isn't taken for tax purposes.

    If there is a gain, it's reported as a short-term gain on Form 8949
    which flows to Schedule D.

    I was just told that the gross amount of payments received by Uber and
    Lyft drivers get reported on 1099-K.

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