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    From Stuart O. Bronstein@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 8 17:16:13 2023
    LLC with three members is taxed as a partnershp. After filing its tax
    return, it was discovered that the 1065 was wrong, and that non-business expenses were incorrectly deducted. One members wants to amend the return
    to show the actual deductible income, but the other two members won't
    cooperate because they don't want to have to pay the additional tax that
    would be assessed.

    What to do? I couldn't find any guidance on the IRS site. The only two
    things I can think of are 1, that the one members amend the return and send amended Schedules K even if the others don't cooperate, or 2, the one
    member notify the IRS, and let the IRS assess the additional taxes on its
    own.

    Are these reasonable options? Is there a better option?

    Thanks for any insight.


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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Stuart O. Bronstein on Sun Jul 9 01:16:37 2023
    On Sat, 8 Jul 2023 17:16:13 EDT, Stuart O. Bronstein wrote:

    LLC with three members is taxed as a partnershp. After filing its tax return, it was discovered that the 1065 was wrong, and that non-business expenses were incorrectly deducted. One members wants to amend the return
    to show the actual deductible income, but the other two members won't cooperate because they don't want to have to pay the additional tax that would be assessed.

    What to do? I couldn't find any guidance on the IRS site. The only two things I can think of are 1, that the one members amend the return and send amended Schedules K even if the others don't cooperate, or 2, the one
    member notify the IRS, and let the IRS assess the additional taxes on its own.

    Are these reasonable options? Is there a better option?

    I'm amazed that the law-abiding partner has been unable to persuade
    the two would-be tax cheats. Do they really want to risk paying
    penalties and interest for underreporting their taxable income, not
    to mention the hassles of dealing with the IRS as adversary? Is the
    "extra" tax large enough that they can live with that possibility?

    If they amend the return and make a plausible case for it being an
    honest error, they'll probably escape the penalty and the hassles.

    If they won't let the partnership correct its filing, I would think
    that the honest partner, for his own protection, would have to amend
    his 1040 and include partnership income based on his share of the
    income that should have been reported.

    Just an opinion, and from a layman, not a tax professional.

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  • From bc@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jul 16 17:47:27 2023
    On Sat, 8 Jul 2023 17:16:13 EDT, "Stuart O. Bronstein"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    What to do?

    Take a look at Form 8082, Notice of Inconsistent Treatment. I've
    used it once. In theory, it protects your client from penalties
    (assuming reasonable position and still wrong) should the Service
    audit the partnership and make a change. Would also allow your
    client the peace of mind to sleep.
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    Admitted in Colorado

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  • From Stuart O. Bronstein@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jul 16 20:05:11 2023
    bc <[email protected]> wrote:
    "Stuart O. Bronstein" <[email protected]> wrote:

    What to do?

    Take a look at Form 8082, Notice of Inconsistent Treatment. I've
    used it once. In theory, it protects your client from penalties
    (assuming reasonable position and still wrong) should the Service
    audit the partnership and make a change. Would also allow your
    client the peace of mind to sleep.

    Thanks Bruce.

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    http://DownToEarthLawyer.com

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  • From Taxed and Spent@21:1/5 to Stuart O. Bronstein on Mon Jul 17 01:37:55 2023
    On 7/16/2023 5:05 PM, Stuart O. Bronstein wrote:
    bc <[email protected]> wrote:
    "Stuart O. Bronstein" <[email protected]> wrote:

    What to do?

    Take a look at Form 8082, Notice of Inconsistent Treatment. I've
    used it once. In theory, it protects your client from penalties
    (assuming reasonable position and still wrong) should the Service
    audit the partnership and make a change. Would also allow your
    client the peace of mind to sleep.

    Thanks Bruce.



    Now the question is whether you wish to advise the partners that you
    will be filing Form 8082, since it is highly likely the IRS will raise
    the issue with the partnership return. Give the partners a chance to
    avoid a bigger problem of their own making.

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