I tried to call
*3001#12345#*, 411, and 611. All got no results. Putting airplane on and rebooting, show "Searching..." and then "No Service".
because to the 4s, there literally is no service anymore. it has been
shut down.
OK, but how come it doesn't work in two 6 +s with the same SIM cards
(just no active lines)? :(
the iphone 14 can use satellites for emergency calls should you find yourself in the middle of nowhere with no service.
Yeah. I'll wait until I need a new iPhone. Doesn't that require paying subscriptions after a year or is that free forever?
Is it normal for old iPhones (4S & 6 +) to show top left corner's "No Service" without any active lines?
Before 3G & CDMA were shut down on
1/3/2023, old iPhones (4S & 2 6 +s) used to show a cell signal bar or
two even though the iPhones didn't have active VZW subscriptions anymore (upgraded to newer iPhones with brand new SIM cards).
I tried to call
*3001#12345#*, 411, and 611. All got no results. Putting airplane on and rebooting, show "Searching..." and then "No Service".
iPad air, with an active VZW line, had no problems. I guess VZW wants
active lines to work. :(
Does that mean no 911 calls with them for emergency calls? iPhones (11
Pro Max, 12 mini, and 13 with iOS v16.2) do show nothing, SOS, and
bar(s) in this rural area.
In article <[email protected]>, Ant <[email protected]> wrote:
Is it normal for old iPhones (4S & 6 +) to show top left corner's "No Service" without any active lines?
yes for 4s, no for ipohne 6.
Before 3G & CDMA were shut down on
1/3/2023, old iPhones (4S & 2 6 +s) used to show a cell signal bar or
two even though the iPhones didn't have active VZW subscriptions anymore (upgraded to newer iPhones with brand new SIM cards).
without 3g/cdma, the 4s thinks it's in a dead zone, thus no service.
this is not unique to iphones either.
the iphone 6 has 4g/lte, which has not been shut down, so the phone
should still be able to make an emergency call (assuming you're in an
area with coverage).
I tried to call
*3001#12345#*, 411, and 611. All got no results. Putting airplane on and rebooting, show "Searching..." and then "No Service".
because to the 4s, there literally is no service anymore. it has been
shut down.
iPad air, with an active VZW line, had no problems. I guess VZW wants active lines to work. :(
because the ipad air has lte, which still exists.
Does that mean no 911 calls with them for emergency calls? iPhones (11
Pro Max, 12 mini, and 13 with iOS v16.2) do show nothing, SOS, and
bar(s) in this rural area.
the iphone 11 has lte, and the 12 and later also have 5g, so you should
be able to call 911 without an active cellular plan, assuming you're
not in the middle of nowhere with no service whatsoever. it will show
sos, because that's all it can do.
the iphone 14 can use satellites for emergency calls should you find
yourself in the middle of nowhere with no service.
With no SIM card, or a deactivated SIM card, my 6s Plus shows "No Service" and
no bars. 911 calls still work. 611 does not work.
I would think that 911 would still work on the 6+ as well.
Did T-Mobile actually shut down 2G on January 1, 2023 as they said they would? I have no non-LTE phones to try it on.
I bought some of the free service T-Mobile/FreedomPop SIM cards from
Walmart prior to them being discontinued so I could keep some older
phones active, including the 6s Plus.
Q: *As a realistic test, can you make a _611_ call from the iPhone 6?*
Note: The reason I suggest 611 tests is that obviates the need to call 911.
Hello,
Is it normal for old iPhones (4S & 6 +) to show top left corner's "No Service" without any active lines? Before 3G & CDMA were shut down on 1/3/2023, old iPhones (4S & 2 6 +s) used to show a cell signal bar or
two even though the iPhones didn't have active VZW subscriptions anymore (upgraded to newer iPhones with brand new SIM cards). I tried to call *3001#12345#*, 411, and 611. All got no results. Putting airplane on and rebooting, show "Searching..." and then "No Service".
iPad air, with an active VZW line, had no problems. I guess VZW wants
active lines to work. :(
Does that mean no 911 calls with them for emergency calls? iPhones (11
Pro Max, 12 mini, and 13 with iOS v16.2) do show nothing, SOS, and
bar(s) in this rural area.
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
this is not unique to iphones either.
the iphone 6 has 4g/lte, which has not been shut down, so the phone
should still be able to make an emergency call
(assuming you're in an area with coverage).
In article <[email protected]>, Ant <[email protected]> wrote:
I tried to call
*3001#12345#*, 411, and 611. All got no results. Putting airplane on and
rebooting, show "Searching..." and then "No Service".
because to the 4s, there literally is no service anymore. it has been shut down.
OK, but how come it doesn't work in two 6 +s with the same SIM cards
(just no active lines)? :(
dunno. the 6 should be able to make an emergency call if there's a
signal, without an active cellular service plan.
are they both verizon, with lte sims? i can think of a possible issue
with sprint, but not verizon.
the iphone 14 can use satellites for emergency calls should you find yourself in the middle of nowhere with no service.
Yeah. I'll wait until I need a new iPhone. Doesn't that require paying subscriptions after a year or is that free forever?
it's free for 2 years. there hasn't been an announcement as to the cost
after that, or if it will continue to be free, which is also possible.
On 1/14/2023 8:22 AM, sms wrote:--
Oops, typo, should be:
With no SIM card, or a deactivated SIM card, my 6s Plus shows "No Service" and
no bars. 911 calls still work. 611 does not work.
I would think that 911 would still work on the 6+ as well.
Did T-Mobile actually shut down 2G on January 1, 2023 as they said they would? I have no non-LTE phones to try it on.
I bought some of the free service T-Mobile/FreedomPop SIM cards from Walmart prior to them being discontinued so I could keep some older
phones active, including the 6s Plus.
Interesting. So, that's normal. Weird/Odd that I still get low bars before the shut down.
On 1/14/2023 9:15 AM, Ant wrote:
Interesting. So, that's normal. Weird/Odd that I still get low bars before the shut down.
I remember when an inactive phone would connect to the American Roaming Network and offer to make a call charged to a credit card or you could purchase some prepaid call credits and use a PIN. That worked on AMPS,
TDMA, and CDMA, but not GSM, so in the recent past it worked only on
Sprint and Verizon. I suppose that with the shutdown of CDMA that's over.
"From your un-registered or de-activated mobile phone, listen to the
American Roaming Network voice prompts and follow directions then enter
your Prepaid PIN. (note: If you do not hear the ARN welcome prompt when
you dial a destination number you will not be able to use ARN service)."
In alt.cellular.verizon sms <[email protected]> wrote:
On 1/14/2023 9:15 AM, Ant wrote:
Interesting. So, that's normal. Weird/Odd that I still get low bars before the shut down.
I remember when an inactive phone would connect to the American Roaming
Network and offer to make a call charged to a credit card or you could
purchase some prepaid call credits and use a PIN. That worked on AMPS,
TDMA, and CDMA, but not GSM, so in the recent past it worked only on
Sprint and Verizon. I suppose that with the shutdown of CDMA that's over.
"From your un-registered or de-activated mobile phone, listen to the
American Roaming Network voice prompts and follow directions then enter
your Prepaid PIN. (note: If you do not hear the ARN welcome prompt when
you dial a destination number you will not be able to use ARN service)."
Um, how do I do that? I need instructions. I didn't know that existed.
In alt.cellular.verizon sms <[email protected]> wrote:
I remember when an inactive phone would connect to the American Roaming Network and offer to make a call charged to a credit card or you could purchase some prepaid call credits and use a PIN. That worked on AMPS, TDMA, and CDMA, but not GSM, so in the recent past it worked only on
Sprint and Verizon. I suppose that with the shutdown of CDMA that's over.
"From your un-registered or de-activated mobile phone, listen to the American Roaming Network voice prompts and follow directions then enter your Prepaid PIN. (note: If you do not hear the ARN welcome prompt when
you dial a destination number you will not be able to use ARN service)."
Um, how do I do that? I need instructions. I didn't know that existed.
With no SIM card, or a deactivated SIM card, my 6s Plus sho Service" and
no bars. 911 calls still work. 611 does not work.
I remember when an inactive phone would connect to the American Roaming
Network and offer to make a call charged to a credit card or you could
purchase some prepaid call credits and use a PIN. That worked on AMPS,
TDMA, and CDMA, but not GSM, so in the recent past it worked only on
Sprint and Verizon. I suppose that with the shutdown of CDMA that's over.
"From your un-registered or de-activated mobile phone, listen to the
American Roaming Network voice prompts and follow directions then enter
your Prepaid PIN. (note: If you do not hear the ARN welcome prompt when
you dial a destination number you will not be able to use ARN service)."
Um, how do I do that? I need instructions. I didn't know that existed.
Pretty sure that it's no longer available with the demise of CDMA.
In article <tpuks6$21ar3$[email protected]>, sms
<[email protected]> wrote:
With no SIM card, or a deactivated SIM card, my 6s Plus sho Service" and
no bars. 911 calls still work. 611 does not work.
you actually called 911 to test it?
In alt.cellular.verizon nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:
In article <tpuks6$21ar3$[email protected]>, sms
<[email protected]> wrote:
With no SIM card, or a deactivated SIM card, my 6s Plus sho Service" and >>> no bars. 911 calls still work. 611 does not work.
you actually called 911 to test it?
And don't you get penalized for false calls?
With no SIM card, or a deactivated SIM card, my 6s Plus sho Service" and >>> no bars. 911 calls still work. 611 does not work.
you actually called 911 to test it?
And don't you get penalized for false calls?
If you hang up immediately, before the call goes through, it's fine.
But it's also okay to call it and tell them that you were seeing if your phone was working.
On landlines you can test 911 by calling 933 but not on mobile phones. I
pay $18 per year for 911 service on my Google Voice/Polycom Obi device.
If you hang up immediately, before the call goes through, it's fine.
no, actually it isn't fine.
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