• Re: iPhone 17 Air

    From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Sat Aug 30 22:18:34 2025
    On 30.08.2025 21:42, badgolferman wrote:
    Chris <[email protected]> wrote:


    Is rumoured to be priced at $949. Who is it for?

    I genuinely thought it would come in below the base 17, but at that price
    who is going to buy. Not that I'm interested in it at all.


    It’s for the people who camp out overnight in front of the Apple Store in order to be the first.

    You are behind the curve.


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Chris on Sat Aug 30 22:17:41 2025
    On 30.08.2025 21:39, Chris wrote:


    Is rumoured to be priced at $949. Who is it for?

    I genuinely thought it would come in below the base 17, but at that price
    who is going to buy. Not that I'm interested in it at all.

    In that case why are you asking?

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to Chris on Sat Aug 30 22:33:28 2025
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 20:52:31 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :


    Is rumoured to be priced at $949. Who is it for?

    I genuinely thought it would come in below the base 17, but at that price >>> who is going to buy. Not that I'm interested in it at all.

    In that case why are you asking?

    Always adding purposefully helpful on-topic yet well-balanced value...

    At over a thousand bucks (with typical sales tax in the USA) I suspect
    Apple marketing has aimed it at the brand loyalists or early adopters who
    want to brag about having a new iPhone in between pro/max/ultra frills.

    What's nice about it?
    Dunno.

    Maybe we can compare it to the $949 Samsung Galaxy S25 at the same price?

    *iPhone 17 vs Samsung Galaxy S25: Which Smartphone Reigns Supreme?*
    <https://www.analyticsinsight.net/gadgets/iphone-17-vs-samsung-galaxy-s25-which-one-should-you-buy>


    (Actually, Android will always cost less due to vastly lower TCO/TOC...)
    (Plus you can't compare functionality since iOS lacks so much of it.)

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to Chris on Mon Sep 1 20:02:58 2025
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 20:52:29 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :


    Is rumoured to be priced at $949. Who is it for?

    I genuinely thought it would come in below the base 17, but at that price >>> who is going to buy. Not that I'm interested in it at all.


    It’s for the people who camp out overnight in front of the Apple Store in >> order to be the first.

    What's that supposed to mean?

    Plus, it hasn't been a thing in at least 10 years.

    Apple is slowly feeding the "pr" to generate buzz for hte iPhone 17, where
    this 'leak' today fits the premise that Apple owners are herd animals...

    *A new survey has found that nearly seven in ten iPhone owners*
    *in the United States plan to upgrade to an iPhone 17 model*
    <https://www.macrumors.com/2025/09/01/nearly-70-of-users-plan-to-upgrade-to-iphone-17/>

    "According to the data, 68.3% of current ‌iPhone‌ users intend
    to purchase an ‌iPhone 17‌ model at launch, marking an increase
    from 61.9% recorded ahead of the iPhone 16 launch in 2024."

    As for the foldable iPhone...
    "The standard ‌iPhone 17‌ is the choice for 16.7% of respondents,
    while 13.5% expressed interest in the all-new iPhone 17 Air,
    which is expected to feature an ultra-thin design. Only 3.3%
    of respondents indicated they are holding out specifically
    for a foldable ‌iPhone‌, which Apple has yet to release."

    Given the fact iPhone hardware is utter garbage, it's not surprising
    "Battery life emerged as the most important upgrade driver, with
    53.% of respondents citing it as their top reason for upgrading."

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to Chris on Tue Sep 2 15:51:02 2025
    On Tue, 2 Sep 2025 10:25:09 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :


    Apple is slowly feeding the "pr" to generate buzz for hte iPhone 17, where >> this 'leak' today fits the premise that Apple owners are herd animals...

    Lol. How is a survey by a third company an Apple "leak". You're
    desperate...

    I love when you Apple trolls use my own words (like "desperate") which
    shows you have a low IQ because you are herd animals who can only copy.

    Nonetheless, if you think Apple marketing doesn't feed the PR mill just
    before new releases, then you don't understand how marketing works.

    As for the foldable iPhone...
    "The standard ‌iPhone 17‌ is the choice for 16.7% of respondents,
    while 13.5% expressed interest in the all-new iPhone 17 Air,
    which is expected to feature an ultra-thin design. Only 3.3%
    of respondents indicated they are holding out specifically
    for a foldable ‌iPhone‌, which Apple has yet to release."

    How can 13.5% be interested in a model that hasn't been announced,
    advertised or any official details otherwise shared? The survey has either targeted very tech savvy people or it is meaningless.

    You are thinking like an adult, which is good, Chris. It's all bullshit PR. Apple is feeding the rumor mill to generate buzz before they release it.

    Given the fact iPhone hardware is utter garbage, it's not surprising
    "Battery life emerged as the most important upgrade driver, with
    53.% of respondents citing it as their top reason for upgrading."

    And yet...

    "When asked to choose between device thinness and battery capacity, 47.5%
    of respondents said they would accept a shorter battery life in exchange
    for a thinner design."

    Clearly ppl don't care about battery life. Which is daft in my book.

    Then there's:

    "Almost half of iPhone users (49 percent) say nothing about Android appeals to them"

    Plus:

    "73 percent say they’re more satisfied with iPhones today than in past years;"

    Yup. It was garbage. My point was that Apple has nothing to feed the PR
    rumor mill with but this kind of garbage. It's classic Apple marketing.

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Sep 2 16:11:09 2025
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 19:42:28 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


    Is rumoured to be priced at $949. Who is it for?

    I genuinely thought it would come in below the base 17, but at that price
    who is going to buy. Not that I'm interested in it at all.


    It�s for the people who camp out overnight in front of the Apple Store in order to be the first.

    Apple isn't stupid. Apple knows their iPhone is made out of garbage, but
    they have the finest marketing organization in the world to generate buzz.

    To wit, this is more of the crap that Apple marketing is foisting upon us.
    *Apple might have good news on iPhone 17 pricing*
    <https://9to5mac.com/2025/09/02/apple-might-have-good-news-on-iphone-17-pricing-per-report/>

    What happens is Apple marketing digs up all these PR "leads" and feeds them
    to the Apple media who is happy to get the free leads to write the stories.

    "In a research note seen by 9to5Mac, the firm forecasts
    surprisingly good news for iPhone 17 pricing."

    You can rest assured Apple is feeding these media outlets their news.

    BTW, given the iPhone is more than 50% pure profit, only a fool would pay
    what Apple charges - but that's the whole point of having the best
    marketing in the world.

    Women thought they were "liberated" by buying Virginia Slims, remember?
    Apple marketing could sell cancer sticks to a comatose cancer patient.

    They're that brilliant.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Chris on Tue Sep 2 12:27:39 2025
    On 2025-08-30 16:52, Chris wrote:
    Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 30.08.2025 21:39, Chris wrote:


    Is rumoured to be priced at $949. Who is it for?

    I genuinely thought it would come in below the base 17, but at that price >>> who is going to buy. Not that I'm interested in it at all.

    In that case why are you asking?

    One can be curious without having an interest.


    No. One quite literally cannot.

    The interest might be small, but if there were no interest, you could
    not be curious.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Marion on Tue Sep 2 12:30:22 2025
    On 2025-08-30 18:33, Marion wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 20:52:31 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :


    Is rumoured to be priced at $949. Who is it for?

    I genuinely thought it would come in below the base 17, but at that price >>>> who is going to buy. Not that I'm interested in it at all.

    In that case why are you asking?

    Always adding purposefully helpful on-topic yet well-balanced value...

    At over a thousand bucks (with typical sales tax in the USA) I suspect
    Apple marketing has aimed it at the brand loyalists or early adopters who want to brag about having a new iPhone in between pro/max/ultra frills.

    What's nice about it?
    Dunno.

    Maybe we can compare it to the $949 Samsung Galaxy S25 at the same price?

    *iPhone 17 vs Samsung Galaxy S25: Which Smartphone Reigns Supreme?*
    <https://www.analyticsinsight.net/gadgets/iphone-17-vs-samsung-galaxy-s25-which-one-should-you-buy>

    What a shining example of journalistic bullshit referring to a device
    not yet released in the present tense:

    "The iPhone 17 has an elegant premium build."

    Should be:

    "The iPhone 17 is rumoured to have an elegant premium build. "

    And so on.



    (Actually, Android will always cost less due to vastly lower TCO/TOC...) (Plus you can't compare functionality since iOS lacks so much of it.)

    LOL!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Sep 2 12:25:07 2025
    On 2025-08-30 15:42, badgolferman wrote:
    Chris <[email protected]> wrote:


    Is rumoured to be priced at $949. Who is it for?

    I genuinely thought it would come in below the base 17, but at that price
    who is going to buy. Not that I'm interested in it at all.


    It’s for the people who camp out overnight in front of the Apple Store in order to be the first.


    I'm glad you're finally showing your true colours.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Chris on Tue Sep 2 12:24:42 2025
    On 2025-08-30 15:39, Chris wrote:


    Is rumoured to be priced at $949. Who is it for?

    I genuinely thought it would come in below the base 17, but at that price
    who is going to buy. Not that I'm interested in it at all.

    Why don't we wait to see what actually happens?

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