On 2025-07-13 16:31, Chris wrote:

Marion <[email protected]> wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jul 2025 10:34:51 -0400, WolfFan wrote :

I didn't even notice that there was an outage until I read about it.

The fact that you ignorant uneducated MAGA Apple trolls didn't "notice"
what was common knowledge around the world is par for the course.

What is par for the course is you believe websites over real-world experience.

Remember when you claimed smb servers were impossible on ios? Your only justification was that websites told you and you incorrectly believed if it was impossible on android it must also be impossible on ios.

This was all in the face of multiple people *showing* you the facts. Real ones.

Eventually after a few days you capitulated and tried it yourself.

Unlike you, most people don't obsess over what iOS can't do, but get on
with life using it as suits them. That means they aren't looking at downdetector 24/7.

I also didn't notice the outage on my phone, mac or ipad.

It's funny how the real world is different from your fantasy world. Isn't
it? Maybe you should look into that.

That might have a lot to do with his initial premise:

'One of the problems with Apple's "dumb terminal" design of millions of
users logging into Apple servers at any given microsecond, is that when
the network to the matrix goes down, everything stops working.'

When in the article, it clearly states:

'Apple's iCloud service suffered an outage today which appeared to
affect a number of other Apple services as well.'

And went on to show only a handful of services were actually down and
nothing like the entire "matrix".

:-)

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On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 20:31:24 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :

This was all in the face of multiple people *showing* you the facts.

Chris,

Do you want me to point you to the thousands of times you Apple MAGA trolls said your iPhone could do what I already knew it couldn't possibly do?

Take just this one example, Chris, where the MAGA Apple trolls insisted,
even to the point of creating a video, that it could do what it can't do.
*Snit video purportedly detailing iOS showing Wi-Fi dBm over time*
<https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo>
*It's a fact iOS devices can't even graph Wi-Fi signal strength over time*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/PZuec56EWB0>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/PZuec56EWB0>

For any of you ignorant uneducated MAGA Apple trolls to make a claim of anything, is completely meaningless, Chris. Your words mean nothing.

The only way I knew what iOS could do with SMB was by testing it myself.

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On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 15:38:04 -0400, Tom Elam wrote :

No other OS OEM requires that. Just Apple.

FYI I have a PhD in economics and statistics.

All I have is a minor in marketing given the undergraduate school I
graduated from only had a Bachelor of Arts, even for the sciences.

So we had to be "well rounded" by having a major, minor & mini.

A minor is eight classes with two at each level, and a mini is half that.

I have followed the tech
sector since I bought a TRS 80 Model 2 in 1980 and used in to start a
small business.

In the 70's, I programmed using punched cards on the IBM 1170 (as I recall,
or it may have been an 1130) and then took COBOL, PL/1, and IBM assembly language, all of which predates the modern languages (like C) of today.

I was the first person in the company to bring a
microcomputer to the office. I demoed Visicalc and a word processor. At
that time we all had IBM 5250 series dumb terminals on our desks.

Somewhere in my garage is a Commodore 64 with one of those Radio Shack
speech synthesizers inserted which said, of all things, "Hello, my name is Otto; how are you?" (since the people I worked with were Dutch).

From the 5250 we went to IBM desktops running DOS and Lotus software.
We did not get internet/network connections (Token Ring) until about
1993/94 when 3.11 Windows for Workgroups came out. We also had a PDP 10 network up and running before that.

In grad school I would boot up the PDP-11 using flip switches on the bottom
at the base to set the boot location, where then I graduated to the DEC/VMS
VAX equipment in Marlborough, and then I was the first to bring a SunOS computer hidden under wraps into the TJ Watson Research Center before Sun
moved on to Solaris, and then that moved on to Redhat Linux.

Somewhere around the Masscomp/SunOS days I used Mac PC, which was an abomination but it was really no worse than the IBM Thinkpad of those days.

When I retired fifteen years ago, I started with Centos since it was the closest to Redhat but moved to Ubuntu (during the Unity crapware days).

I still have that huge "suitcase" black bag for the Mac, by the way.
It's in my garage somewhere, still packed from the last two moves. :)

So yes, I have a long history using everything from DOS command line to
the latest Windows and Apple operating systems.

I wrote a tutorial on how to use EVERY SINGLE command in DOS, even the
hidden undocumented commands, since I had inside access to IBM researchers.

Those days of Peter Norton style commands running on the PC are long gone.

Also Android up to about
5 years ago when I upgraded to Apple iOS.

I noticed you called it an "upgrade" but I wonder if you realize of all
common consumer operating systems, only iOS makes privacy impossible.

For example, the renown Tor browser works on all operating systems, except
on iOS where Webkit is known to lack the privacy required for anonymity.

Another example is that only Apple requires 2FA (or MFA) for every new
account where that account is required for the device to install apps.

Nobody but Apple does that, and yet Apple says they do it in the name of security, and yet, iOS has 1-1/2 times the zero-day exploits of Android.
<https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>

It's not just exploits, though, where Apple's requirement that you carry
with you for the rest of your life two devices is absurd when you find out
that Apple doesn't even bother to test huge swaths of their iOS code base!
https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2019/08/a-very-deep-dive-into-ios-exploit.html>

Google's Project Zero proved Apple has *never* tested much of the iOS code!
<https://cyberscoop.com/iphone-hack-google-project-zero/>

Given those facts that Apple has some of the worst security practices on
the planet, and yet, Apple requires you to personally identify yourself, doesn't it make you wonder why Apple wants your identity so desperately?

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On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 16:48:47 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :

The only way I knew what iOS could do with SMB was by testing it myself.

Which took several days of arguing and only five minutes to actually complete.

Why bother with the days of arguing...?

Chris,

I'm completely unlike you Apple trolls - so you will *never* be able to understand how I think since I operate as a scientist and engineer.

Like any good engineer or scientist, when I finally tested it myself and
found out that I was wrong about iOS having the ability that Android lacks,
the first thing I immediately did was admit that I was wrong on that issue.

What's telling is you childish Apple trolls who lack any semblance of
deductive reasoning, claimed that since I was wrong once, I'm always wrong.

It's all you've got but the fact is evidence that none of you know anything about how iOS works since you can't comprehend that it's a dumb terminal.

Note that it's not the hardware that makes the device into a dumb terminal. It's the OS.

Why can't you understand a concept as obvious and as simple as that?
Is it because Apple didn't tell you that the iPhone is a dumb terminal?

Do you even understand why I assess the iPhone/iPad as dumb terminals?

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