• Re: calculator behavior changed

    From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Thu Jan 30 19:18:20 2025
    On 2025-01-30 18:53, badgolferman wrote:
    badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
    iPhone 14 / iOS 18.2.1

    Previously when using the Calculator on iOS, I could perform minus and
    plus calculations without using the = button. A [running total] would
    display after each +/- use.

    2365.23 + 1254.58 + [3619.81] 235.96 - [3855.77] 1479.99 = 2375.78

    Now I must use the = button after every calculation to see the [running
    total]. It's hard to keep a checkbook register correct if you can't
    see the running total. Hitting the = button after every number is
    cumbersome when you're running through several pages. The calculators
    on my desktop computer and on the internet work as expected.

    Does anyone else see this? I looked for any options on the application
    itself and in Settings to change this but to no avail.

    It's a bug and it's been fixed in 18.3

    <https://9to5mac.com/2025/01/27/ios-18-3-beta-2-fixes-key-calculator-issue-introduced-last-fall/>



    This new calculator really sucks and is unusable! Where is the C (clear) button?

    https://ibb.co/qMvdS9LB
    Notice the <backspace> symbol.

    That's the clear key. True you have to hit backspace as many times as
    you typed characters.

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  • From Rick@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Jan 31 11:02:32 2025
    On 1/31/2025 10:33 AM, badgolferman wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
    Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-01-30 18:53, badgolferman wrote:
    badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
    iPhone 14 / iOS 18.2.1

    Previously when using the Calculator on iOS, I could perform
    minus and plus calculations without using the = button. A
    [running total] would display after each +/- use.

    2365.23 + 1254.58 + [3619.81] 235.96 - [3855.77] 1479.99 =
    2375.78
    Now I must use the = button after every calculation to see
    the [running total]. It's hard to keep a checkbook register
    correct if you can't see the running total. Hitting the =
    button after every number is cumbersome when you're running
    through several pages. The calculators on my desktop
    computer and on the internet work as expected.
    Does anyone else see this? I looked for any options on the
    application itself and in Settings to change this but to no
    avail.

    It's a bug and it's been fixed in 18.3


    <https://9to5mac.com/2025/01/27/ios-18-3-beta-2-fixes-key-calculat
    or-issue-introduced-last-fall/>


    This new calculator really sucks and is unusable! Where is the
    C (clear) button?

    https://ibb.co/qMvdS9LB
    Notice the <backspace> symbol.

    That's the clear key. True you have to hit backspace as many
    times as you typed characters.


    What you describe with the link is not the issue I’m having. I
    upgraded to 18.3 last night and the behavior continues. And there
    is still no C button.

    You're being a little limited with the truth.

    What your screenshot shows is the view while typing a sum. The
    backspace key allows you to correct typos. If you press and hold the
    backspace button it clears the screen.

    I was unaware you had to HOLD the backspace button for the screen to
    clear. That makes it a little better.

    However the original problem still remains. I cannot get a running
    total just by pressing the + or - button. I must use the = button to
    see the total of the running calculation. This is different behavior
    than the previous calculator, which even had a log available to see
    previous calculations. As I said, i primarily use the calculator to
    keep my checkbook register accurate and having to use the = button
    after each number is cumbersome, especially when all other calculators
    work as expected.

    Once you've hit "=" then the "AC" button appears.

    This calculator is completely useless to me now.

    Lol. That's quite an overreaction.

    Hopefully I can find a
    normal one on App Store.

    Let us know how you get on.

    I ended up downloading Calculator% which seems to work just fine and as expected. The iOS Calculator icon has gone into the folder of uuused
    Apple apps on my phone.



    That's good feedback. I have the same issue as you and will give the
    app you found a try.

    BTW, I don't possibly see how this could be considered a "bug". They
    obviously made a design change to the way the app works and probably
    didn't count on this reaction. There are many, many situations where a
    constant running total is helpful.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Jan 31 10:45:52 2025
    On 2025-01-31 02:51, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-01-30 18:53, badgolferman wrote:
    badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
    iPhone 14 / iOS 18.2.1

    Previously when using the Calculator on iOS, I could perform minus and >>>> plus calculations without using the = button. A [running total] would >>>> display after each +/- use.

    2365.23 + 1254.58 + [3619.81] 235.96 - [3855.77] 1479.99 = 2375.78

    Now I must use the = button after every calculation to see the [running >>>> total]. It's hard to keep a checkbook register correct if you can't
    see the running total. Hitting the = button after every number is
    cumbersome when you're running through several pages. The calculators >>>> on my desktop computer and on the internet work as expected.

    Does anyone else see this? I looked for any options on the application >>>> itself and in Settings to change this but to no avail.

    It's a bug and it's been fixed in 18.3

    <https://9to5mac.com/2025/01/27/ios-18-3-beta-2-fixes-key-calculator-issue-introduced-last-fall/>



    This new calculator really sucks and is unusable! Where is the C (clear) >>> button?

    https://ibb.co/qMvdS9LB
    Notice the <backspace> symbol.

    That's the clear key. True you have to hit backspace as many times as
    you typed characters.


    What you describe with the link is not the issue I’m having. I upgraded to 18.3 last night and the behavior continues. And there is still no C button. This calculator is completely useless to me now. Hopefully I can find a normal one on App Store.


    Wow. You can't even follow a reply.

    Where did put the text regarding the bug?

    Do you think it applied to what said about the clear key?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Jan 31 10:47:31 2025
    On 2025-01-31 07:33, badgolferman wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
    Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-01-30 18:53, badgolferman wrote:
    badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
    iPhone 14 / iOS 18.2.1

    Previously when using the Calculator on iOS, I could perform
    minus and plus calculations without using the = button. A
    [running total] would display after each +/- use.

    2365.23 + 1254.58 + [3619.81] 235.96 - [3855.77] 1479.99 =
    2375.78
    Now I must use the = button after every calculation to see
    the [running total]. It's hard to keep a checkbook register
    correct if you can't see the running total. Hitting the =
    button after every number is cumbersome when you're running
    through several pages. The calculators on my desktop
    computer and on the internet work as expected.
    Does anyone else see this? I looked for any options on the
    application itself and in Settings to change this but to no
    avail.

    It's a bug and it's been fixed in 18.3


    <https://9to5mac.com/2025/01/27/ios-18-3-beta-2-fixes-key-calculat
    or-issue-introduced-last-fall/>


    This new calculator really sucks and is unusable! Where is the
    C (clear) button?

    https://ibb.co/qMvdS9LB
    Notice the <backspace> symbol.

    That's the clear key. True you have to hit backspace as many
    times as you typed characters.


    What you describe with the link is not the issue I’m having. I
    upgraded to 18.3 last night and the behavior continues. And there
    is still no C button.

    You're being a little limited with the truth.

    What your screenshot shows is the view while typing a sum. The
    backspace key allows you to correct typos. If you press and hold the
    backspace button it clears the screen.

    I was unaware you had to HOLD the backspace button for the screen to
    clear. That makes it a little better.

    However the original problem still remains. I cannot get a running
    total just by pressing the + or - button. I must use the = button to
    see the total of the running calculation. This is different behavior
    than the previous calculator, which even had a log available to see
    previous calculations. As I said, i primarily use the calculator to
    keep my checkbook register accurate and having to use the = button
    after each number is cumbersome, especially when all other calculators
    work as expected.

    As I said, not getting a running total was a bug that got fixed in 18.3.

    So now you're lying about having installed 18.3 or lying about still
    having the bug.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Jan 31 12:02:27 2025
    On 2025-01-31 11:38, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2025-01-31 07:33, badgolferman wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
    Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-01-30 18:53, badgolferman wrote:
    badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
    iPhone 14 / iOS 18.2.1

    Previously when using the Calculator on iOS, I could
    perform minus and plus calculations without using the =
    button. A [running total] would display after each +/-
    use.

    2365.23 + 1254.58 + [3619.81] 235.96 - [3855.77] 1479.99 =
    2375.78
    Now I must use the = button after every calculation to see
    the [running total]. It's hard to keep a checkbook
    register correct if you can't see the running total.
    Hitting the = button after every number is cumbersome
    when you're running through several pages. The
    calculators on my desktop computer and on the internet
    work as expected. Does anyone else see this? I looked
    for any options on the application itself and in
    Settings to change this but to no avail.

    It's a bug and it's been fixed in 18.3


    <https://9to5mac.com/2025/01/27/ios-18-3-beta-2-fixes-key-calculat >>>>>> or-issue-introduced-last-fall/>


    This new calculator really sucks and is unusable! Where is
    the C (clear) button?

    https://ibb.co/qMvdS9LB
    Notice the <backspace> symbol.

    That's the clear key. True you have to hit backspace as many
    times as you typed characters.


    What you describe with the link is not the issue I’m having. I
    upgraded to 18.3 last night and the behavior continues. And
    there is still no C button.

    You're being a little limited with the truth.

    What your screenshot shows is the view while typing a sum. The
    backspace key allows you to correct typos. If you press and hold
    the backspace button it clears the screen.

    I was unaware you had to HOLD the backspace button for the screen to
    clear. That makes it a little better.

    However the original problem still remains. I cannot get a running
    total just by pressing the + or - button. I must use the = button
    to see the total of the running calculation. This is different
    behavior than the previous calculator, which even had a log
    available to see previous calculations. As I said, i primarily use
    the calculator to keep my checkbook register accurate and having to
    use the = button after each number is cumbersome, especially when
    all other calculators work as expected.

    As I said, not getting a running total was a bug that got fixed in
    18.3.

    So now you're lying about having installed 18.3 or lying about still
    having the bug.


    Here you go asshole. Now shut the fuck up! I'm not a liar.

    iOS version https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HecCkgPG6cBYStsYu3l7SCSaFEicmX9o/view?usp=sharing

    Calculator https://drive.google.com/file/d/10eQ6XBnhzWY8p8tcH2FG4zIKsS_pwrbq/view?usp=sharing

    There is no running total. The calculations only show up at the very
    end when pressing the = button.


    Interesting that you presented it as two separate elements, rather than
    a video that went straight from the "Up to date" screen to the
    Calculator, huh?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Jan 31 14:54:24 2025
    On 2025-01-31 12:17, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2025-01-31 11:38, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2025-01-31 07:33, badgolferman wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
    Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-01-30 18:53, badgolferman wrote:
    badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
    iPhone 14 / iOS 18.2.1

    Previously when using the Calculator on iOS, I could
    perform minus and plus calculations without using
    the = button. A [running total] would display after
    each +/- use.

    2365.23 + 1254.58 + [3619.81] 235.96 - [3855.77]
    1479.99 = 2375.78
    Now I must use the = button after every calculation
    to see the [running total]. It's hard to keep a
    checkbook register correct if you can't see the
    running total. Hitting the = button after every
    number is cumbersome when you're running through
    several pages. The calculators on my desktop
    computer and on the internet work as expected. Does
    anyone else see this? I looked for any options on
    the application itself and in Settings to change
    this but to no avail.

    It's a bug and it's been fixed in 18.3


    <https://9to5mac.com/2025/01/27/ios-18-3-beta-2-fixes-key-calculat >>>>>>>> or-issue-introduced-last-fall/>


    This new calculator really sucks and is unusable! Where
    is the C (clear) button?

    https://ibb.co/qMvdS9LB
    Notice the <backspace> symbol.

    That's the clear key. True you have to hit backspace as
    many times as you typed characters.


    What you describe with the link is not the issue I’m
    having. I upgraded to 18.3 last night and the behavior
    continues. And there is still no C button.

    You're being a little limited with the truth.

    What your screenshot shows is the view while typing a sum. The
    backspace key allows you to correct typos. If you press and
    hold the backspace button it clears the screen.

    I was unaware you had to HOLD the backspace button for the
    screen to clear. That makes it a little better.

    However the original problem still remains. I cannot get a
    running total just by pressing the + or - button. I must use
    the = button to see the total of the running calculation. This
    is different behavior than the previous calculator, which even
    had a log available to see previous calculations. As I said, i
    primarily use the calculator to keep my checkbook register
    accurate and having to use the = button after each number is
    cumbersome, especially when all other calculators work as
    expected.

    As I said, not getting a running total was a bug that got fixed in
    18.3.

    So now you're lying about having installed 18.3 or lying about
    still having the bug.


    Here you go asshole. Now shut the fuck up! I'm not a liar.

    iOS version
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HecCkgPG6cBYStsYu3l7SCSaFEicmX9o/view?usp=sharing

    Calculator
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/10eQ6XBnhzWY8p8tcH2FG4zIKsS_pwrbq/view?usp=sharing

    There is no running total. The calculations only show up at the
    very end when pressing the = button.


    Interesting that you presented it as two separate elements, rather
    than a video that went straight from the "Up to date" screen to the
    Calculator, huh?

    Fuck you, asshole. I'm sick of your innuendos and accusations. You're
    the biggest troll in this group.

    Back at you, Quisling.

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