On 2024-06-06 20:19:01 +0000, Gelato said:

Expert issues warning to anyone using iPhone on Apple's 'obsolete' list
that could be seriously harmful

https://www.ladbible.com/news/technology/iphone-apple-obsolete-list-security-warning-hackers-871549-20240606

Basically, the tech giant classes products as obsolete when it has been
more than seven years since it 'stopped distributing them for sale' -
meaning the devices can no longer be fixed and rarely receive iOs security updates.

For example, once an iPhone turns ten-years-old, the company can no longer order repair parts for it, so if it ever goes kaput, there is no coming
back for it.

As you can imagine, the OG's such as the iPhone 3G, iPhone 4s and iPhone 5C have been declared obsolete.

You can take a look at the full 'death list' here - and you might be surprised by how long it is.

https://www.ladbible.com/news/technology/full-iphones-death-list-688143-20240605

More scaremongering bollocks from the moronic trolls and
attention-grabbing "journalist" idiots. :-\

A. The "obsolete" iPhone is no more at risk than it was the
day before Apple declared it obsolete - it's just a word!

B. The hackers will mostly be targeting the newer devices
because there are far more of them.

C. Unless the battery suddenly bursts in flames, no device
on the planet is "seriously harmful".

D. Every company on the planet stop having parts for
repairing old products and tech companies stop providing
software updates. (No, you can't run the latest version of
Android on an ancient phone either.) Even the "right to
repair" campaigns and laws are only for around a 10 year
timeframe.

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On 2024-06-06 16:19, Gelato wrote:

Expert issues warning to anyone using iPhone on Apple's 'obsolete' list
that could be seriously harmful

https://www.ladbible.com/news/technology/iphone-apple-obsolete-list-security-warning-hackers-871549-20240606

Basically, the tech giant classes products as obsolete when it has been
more than seven years since it 'stopped distributing them for sale' -
meaning the devices can no longer be fixed and rarely receive iOs security updates.

For example, once an iPhone turns ten-years-old, the company can no longer order repair parts for it, so if it ever goes kaput, there is no coming
back for it.

As you can imagine, the OG's such as the iPhone 3G, iPhone 4s and iPhone 5C have been declared obsolete.

You can take a look at the full 'death list' here - and you might be surprised by how long it is.

https://www.ladbible.com/news/technology/full-iphones-death-list-688143-20240605

Didn't look at it....

Eventually these older phones lack so many features as to be compliance
skewed with the rest of the more up to date market reducing their
utility for a large number of users. (This statement applies to a lot
of electronics).

My SO is keeping her iPhone 7 (8 years old this coming fall) - possibly
for another year - before upgrading, OTOH she might go for a new one.

If it fails, she'll simply buy a new iPhone of the latest model and run
it for another 7 - 8 years.

Further of course there are plenty of shops in larger cities that can cannibalize parts to resurrect phones if really desirable.

--
British writing about the US can be condescending, but that there is
value in an outsiders’ perspective because they can “see the alarming cracks in the wall the resident has stopped noticing… but also see the grandeur of a room where the resident can only see the cracks.”
Jesse Armstrong.

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Using <news:v3t75l$1lorg$[email protected]>, Your Name wrote:

A. The "obsolete" iPhone is no more at risk than it was the
day before Apple declared it obsolete - it's just a word!

B. The hackers will mostly be targeting the newer devices
because there are far more of them.

C. Unless the battery suddenly bursts in flames, no device
on the planet is "seriously harmful".

D. Every company on the planet stop having parts for
repairing old products and tech companies stop providing
software updates. (No, you can't run the latest version of
Android on an ancient phone either.) Even the "right to
repair" campaigns and laws are only for around a 10 year
timeframe.

You're wrong on every count since Apple only promises at least five years
of support fixes for all the bugs it knows about and only on one release.

Google & Samsung promise full support for at least seven years for all the
bugs it knows about and that covers up to seven android releases.

Apple = 1 release only, five years
Google/Samsung = 7 releases, seven years

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Alan Browne wrote:

On 2024-06-06 16:19, Gelato wrote:

Expert issues warning to anyone using iPhone on Apple's 'obsolete' list
that could be seriously harmful

https://www.ladbible.com/news/technology/iphone-apple-obsolete-list-security-warning-hackers-871549-20240606


Basically, the tech giant classes products as obsolete when it has been
more than seven years since it 'stopped distributing them for sale' -
meaning the devices can no longer be fixed and rarely receive iOs security >> updates.

For example, once an iPhone turns ten-years-old, the company can no longer >> order repair parts for it, so if it ever goes kaput, there is no coming
back for it.

As you can imagine, the OG's such as the iPhone 3G, iPhone 4s and iPhone 5C >> have been declared obsolete.

You can take a look at the full 'death list' here - and you might be
surprised by how long it is.

https://www.ladbible.com/news/technology/full-iphones-death-list-688143-20240605

Didn't look at it....

Eventually these older phones lack so many features as to be compliance skewed with the rest of the more up to date market reducing their utility
for a large number of users.� (This statement applies to a lot of electronics).

My SO is keeping her iPhone 7 (8 years old this coming fall) - possibly for another year - before upgrading, OTOH she might go for a new one.

If it fails, she'll simply buy a new iPhone of the latest model and run it for another 7 - 8 years.

Further of course there are plenty of shops in larger cities that can cannibalize parts to resurrect phones if really desirable.

And if that fails, you can always say the apple prayer. Such prayers are
always answered by apple geniuses.

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Your Name wrote:

On 2024-06-06 20:19:01 +0000, Gelato said:

[snip]

More scaremongering bollocks from the moronic trolls and
attention-grabbing "journalist" idiots. :-\

Do not use the plural form. "Gelato" is just another nym (posting name)
of Arlen's.

You should walk your own talk, quoted below. Just killfile this
posting name instead of replying to it.

From: Your Name <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: To adults - very few on this newsgroup - like badgolferman - what do you think of the facts?
Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 10:57:25 +1200
Message-ID: <v2gkgl$7h56$[email protected]>

It's not "information" ... it's more of the same old MISinformation and complete bollocks by an idiotic known-nothing anti-Apple troll. Just
killfile the idiot every time he changes his posting name.

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On 2024-06-06 15:00, david wrote:

Using <news:v3t75l$1lorg$[email protected]>, Your Name wrote:

A. The "obsolete" iPhone is no more at risk than it was the
   day before Apple declared it obsolete - it's just a word!

B. The hackers will mostly be targeting the newer devices
   because there are far more of them.

C. Unless the battery suddenly bursts in flames, no device
   on the planet is "seriously harmful".

D. Every company on the planet stop having parts for
   repairing old products and tech companies stop providing
   software updates. (No, you can't run the latest version of
   Android on an ancient phone either.) Even the "right to
   repair" campaigns and laws are only for around a 10 year
   timeframe.

You're wrong on every count since Apple only promises at least five years
of support fixes for all the bugs it knows about and only on one release.

Google & Samsung promise full support for at least seven years for all the bugs it knows about and that covers up to seven android releases.

Only for their most recent phones...

...not all of them.

Apple = 1 release only, five years
Google/Samsung = 7 releases, seven years

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Alan wrote:

On 2024-06-06 15:00, david wrote:

Using <news:v3t75l$1lorg$[email protected]>, Your Name wrote:

A. The "obsolete" iPhone is no more at risk than it was the
   day before Apple declared it obsolete - it's just a word!

B. The hackers will mostly be targeting the newer devices
   because there are far more of them.

C. Unless the battery suddenly bursts in flames, no device
   on the planet is "seriously harmful".

D. Every company on the planet stop having parts for
   repairing old products and tech companies stop providing
   software updates. (No, you can't run the latest version of
   Android on an ancient phone either.) Even the "right to
   repair" campaigns and laws are only for around a 10 year
   timeframe.

You're wrong on every count since Apple only promises at least five years
of support fixes for all the bugs it knows about and only on one release.

Google & Samsung promise full support for at least seven years for all the >> bugs it knows about and that covers up to seven android releases.

Only for their most recent phones...

...not all of them.

You can still take them to a junk store and have them serviced. By geniuses.

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