So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a
programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the
original iphone.

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the
licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple
prefers you not to have one ).

Tons of applications in the iOS environment could actually be
utilized. I would not mind to have one of my own as I use Android on a
regular basis.

Now your going to say "what about the hardware" ? Well the
hardware of the iphone is not so different from the android
counter-parts. So something like a Goolge-Pixel or even Samsung Galaxy
models would probably do justice.

Again unless you like purchasing only Apple devices for some reason?

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On 17.05.24 01:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a
programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the
original iphone.

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple
prefers you not to have one ).

Tons of applications in the iOS environment could actually be
utilized. I would not mind to have one of my own as I use Android on a regular basis.

Now your going to say "what about the hardware" ? Well the
hardware of the iphone is not so different from the android
counter-parts. So something like a Goolge-Pixel or even Samsung Galaxy
models would probably do justice.

Again unless you like purchasing only Apple devices for some reason?

Arlen, is that you?


--
"Alea iacta est." (Julius Caesar)

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On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a
programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the
original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation".

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple
prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Tons of applications in the iOS environment could actually be
utilized. I would not mind to have one of my own as I use Android on a regular basis.

Now your going to say "what about the hardware" ? Well the
hardware of the iphone is not so different from the android
counter-parts. So something like a Goolge-Pixel or even Samsung Galaxy
models would probably do justice.

Again unless you like purchasing only Apple devices for some reason?

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On May 16, 2024 at 7:33:13 PM EDT, "Danart" <Danart> wrote:

Instead of jumping thru hoops with a simulator? What is the point?

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Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a
programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the
original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation".

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the
licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple
prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Is it still a Berkeley Linux derivative?

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Cameo wrote:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a
programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the
original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation".

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the
licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple
prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Is it still a Berkeley Linux derivative?

I'm pretty sure it's much more wonderful than any version of linux.

After all, it's made solely by APPLE.

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On 2024-05-17 12:22, Cameo wrote:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a
programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the
original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation".

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the
licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple
prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Is it still a Berkeley Linux derivative?

What is "Berkeley Linux"?

I know of a "Berkeley UNIX", but I haven't heard of a Linux Berkeley distribution.

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On 2024-05-17 12:55, Hank Rogers wrote:

Cameo wrote:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a
programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the
original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation".

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the
licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple
prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Is it still a Berkeley Linux derivative?

I'm pretty sure it's much more wonderful than any version of linux.

After all, it's made solely by APPLE.

Your snark is irrelevant.

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Hank Rogers wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 14:55:45 -0500 :

I'm pretty sure it's much more wonderful than any version of linux.

After all, it's made solely by APPLE.

While I don't always agree with "Hank", I love his sage witticisms.

Hank describes the attitude of the Apple religious zealots perfectly
(in fewer words with more humor than I could possibly achieve).

Much appreciated your apropos wit which succinctly tells the real story.

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On 2024-05-17 14:19, Andrew wrote:

Hank Rogers wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 14:55:45 -0500 :

I'm pretty sure it's much more wonderful than any version of linux.

After all, it's made solely by APPLE.

While I don't always agree with "Hank", I love his sage witticisms.

That you think this is "sage"...

...or even "witty"...

...says all that needs to be said about you.

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Alan wrote:

On 2024-05-17 14:19, Andrew wrote:

Hank Rogers wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 14:55:45 -0500 :

I'm pretty sure it's much more wonderful than any version of linux.

After all, it's made solely by APPLE.

While I don't always agree with "Hank", I love his sage witticisms.

That you think this is "sage"...

...or even "witty"...

...says all that needs to be said about you.

Yes, he is a bad person. Mainly because he worships a different chinese telephone.

Kill the infidels!

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Tyrone wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 16:39:40 +0000 :

Instead of jumping thru hoops with a simulator? What is the point?

Thanks for helping me on my messaging questions; here I hope to partially return the favor as I've tested every free Android emulator known to this
ng (and I wrote a tutorial for every single one of them & posted it there).

While I don't play games, I suspect a key reason people use emulators is to play games on the PC that were built to work only on the mobile device.

Years ago I tested all the free Android emulators (see summary below). Emulation allows me to run on my PC apps that would only run on a phone.

For example, on my phone I have the open source youtube clone which allows
far more functionality than the highly restrictive Google YouTube client.
<http://newpipe.net>

But that functionality doesn't exist on Windows (AFAIK), but if you're on
the PC, you can pop up an emulator and use that functionality on the PC!
<https://i.postimg.cc/056zRLBY/emulate01.jpg> Android app on Windows
<https://i.postimg.cc/XqBY6xT8/emulated02.jpg> Windows HDD on Android
<https://i.postimg.cc/1zsvNCRj/emulate03.jpg> Download YouTube video

Of course, you can do almost the same thing by mirroring your device onto
your PC - but then it's running on the phone instead of the CPU PC power.
<https://i.postimg.cc/5NrK7jtg/scrcpy16.jpg>

But notice with two (or more emulators or mirrors) you can run two
different tasks on various phone emulated hardware to see how they differ.
<https://i.postimg.cc/Hnw59ZHm/scrcpy24.jpg>

Luckily you can mirror iOS on the PC for free since Vysor does that.
<https://i.postimg.cc/TYvqdxCT/vysor35.jpg> iOS & Android PC mirroring

But I don't recall, at that time, finding any free iOS emulators.
Do they exist?

Please see the sig for my summary of the emulators that I had tested.
--
C:\app\editor\android\emu\{google,arm,ms,geny,andy,blue,nox,ko,mumu,remix}
Google (Android ?, fails on older AMD CPUs but is the default for AS)
Arm (Android ?, nobody recommends these as they are too slow to be usable)
Microsoft (Android 6, works great on older AMD CPUs, integrates into AS)
Genymotion (Android 7.1, everyone recommends this for speed & compatibility)
Andyroid (Android 7.1.2, simple setup where AS instantly recognized it)
Bluestacks (Android 7.1.1, simple setup & runs fast, but AS didn't see it)
Nox (Android 4.4.2, targeted to gamers)
Ko (Android ?)
MeMu (Android Lollipop)
Remix* (Android Marshmallow, incompatible with AMD)

*Google Emulators* (Android 9)
Google Emulators are the cat's meow, all the way to Android 9
But they don't work on older AMD CPUs (on Windows only, apparently)
One great thing about the Google emulators, is some have Google Play
That allows people to run other software, e.g., NewPipe as one example
Comes pre-integrated with Android Studio

*Arm Emulators* (Android 9?)
They are too slow on my machine to be worth the trouble
Most people suggest ARM eabi-v7a for older AMD CPUs it's slow
Does not appear to come with Google Play (which is important)
Comes pre-integrated with Android Studio

*Microsoft Emulators* (Last version, forever, is Android 6)
The Microsoft Emulators are fantastic - but they stop at Android 6
The Microsoft emulators don't appear to have Google Play installed
They're the only emulators that work with Windows 10 Pro Hyper-V enabled!
Very easy to integrate into Android Studio (as an external tool)
<https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/msft-android-emulator/>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/aW64zYeBtF0%5B1-25%5D>

*Genymotion Emulator* (Android 4 to 7 - and maybe 8 & 9)
Generally considered superior to all other emulators on Windows!
Most complex to set up (if things fail) due to Win10 & VMWare needs
Very well integrated into Android Studio (even has its own plugin)
I don't see Google Play (yet)
<https://www.genymotion.com/fun-zone/>
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/ix9empN-mxg/07ZmH2AWAQAJ>

*Andyroid Emulator* (Android 7.1.2)
This is very simple to set up (turn off Windows 10 Hyper-V!)
This installs Bonjour and VMWare bundled "services"
Comes with Google Play & F-Droid NewPipe came up, ran, but failed
Android Studio recognized it instantly so it's nicely integrated
<https://www.andyroid.net/>
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/FkZu5vAswYo/wISRtpUUAQAJ>

*Bluestacks4 Emulator* (Android 7.1.1)
This is very simple to set up (turn off Windows 10 Hyper-V!)
They seem to be very focused on running Android games on Windows
Comes with Google Play & successfully ran F-Droid NewPipe tests
I need to learn how to integrate it into Android Studio
Drawback is that it has ads
<https://www.bluestacks.com/bluestacks-4.html>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/JBRjZ39w4Ok>

*Nox* (Android 4.4.2)
Targeted to gamers
No ads
https://www.bignox.com/

*MeMu (Android Lollipop)
Targeted to gamers
Good support for AMD & Nvidia chips
https://www.memuplay.com

*Ko Player* (Android )
Targeted to gamers
Ad supported
Said to be buggy
http://www.koplayer.com/
Updated: Nov 26, 2018 Version: 2.0.0
http://down1.koplayer.com/Emulator/koplayer-2.0.0.exe

*Remix* (Android Marshmallow)
Incompatible with AMD chips
Jide Technology has stopped supporting this
It's an Android boot system
http://www.jide.com/remixos
Version 3.0.207 Release date: November 25, 2016
It doesn't seem to be available in 2018

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On May 17, 2024 at 5:33:24 PM EDT, "Andrew" <[email protected]> wrote:

Please see the sig for my summary of the emulators that I had tested.

I did. Unless you are really desperate to run Android apps on your Windows PC, I don't see the point in any of them. You can just buy an Android
phone/tablet and not have to worry about emulation issues (and you listed MANY issues).

Same goes for iPhones and iPads. If you want to run iOS software, then just
get an iOS device. Easy. No compatibility issues.

The emulators I have used were always for hardware that is no longer
available. Those were actually uselful. When the hardware is readily
available, I see no point in fussing with emulators.

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On 2024-05-17 19:22:35 +0000, Cameo said:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a
programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the
original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation".

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the
licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple
prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Is it still a Berkeley Linux derivative?

All of Apple's operating systems are based on Unix (Mach microkernel
and FreeBSD) ... not Linux.

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Your Name wrote:

On 2024-05-17 19:22:35 +0000, Cameo said:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a
programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the
original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation".

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the
licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple
prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Is it still a Berkeley Linux derivative?

All of Apple's operating systems are based on Unix (Mach microkernel and FreeBSD) ... not Linux.

Even the 2E?

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On 2024-05-17 15:32, Hank Rogers wrote:

Your Name wrote:

On 2024-05-17 19:22:35 +0000, Cameo said:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a
programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the
original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation". >>>>

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the >>>>> licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple
prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Is it still a Berkeley Linux derivative?

All of Apple's operating systems are based on Unix (Mach microkernel
and FreeBSD) ... not Linux.

Even the 2E?

You're really...

...not very clever.

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On May 17, 2024 at 6:52:33 PM EDT, "Alan" <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-17 15:32, Hank Rogers wrote:

Your Name wrote:

On 2024-05-17 19:22:35 +0000, Cameo said:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a
programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the
original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation". >>>>>

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the >>>>>> licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple
prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Is it still a Berkeley Linux derivative?

All of Apple's operating systems are based on Unix (Mach microkernel
and FreeBSD) ... not Linux.

Even the 2E?

You're really...

...not very clever.

And besides, there was no "2E". It was the //e.

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On 2024-05-17, Cameo <[email protected]d> wrote:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a
programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the
original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation".

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the
licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple
prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Is it still a Berkeley Linux derivative?

No, it's the real thing: Unix. Always has been.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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On 2024-05-17 23:13:31 +0000, Tyrone said:

On May 17, 2024 at 6:52:33 PM EDT, "Alan" <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-17 15:32, Hank Rogers wrote:

Your Name wrote:

On 2024-05-17 19:22:35 +0000, Cameo said:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a >>>>>>> programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the >>>>>>> original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation". >>>>>>

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the >>>>>>> licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple >>>>>>> prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Is it still a Berkeley Linux derivative?

All of Apple's operating systems are based on Unix (Mach microkernel
and FreeBSD) ... not Linux.

Even the 2E?

You're really...

...not very clever.

And besides, there was no "2E". It was the //e.

Technically the Apple I and Apple II computers didn't even have an
in-built OS as such. They did have "Apple DOS" or "Integer BASIC Apple
Dos".

The Lisa and Classic Macintosh computers did have an operating system,
but that wasn't based on Unix, Linux, nor anything else, although was
"inspired by" the Alto computer. (Despite some claims on the internet,
MacOS 9 was not Unix-based ... that seems to come from a confusion with
the Unix-like "OS-9", which is a completely different non-Apple product
made by Microware Systems Corporation.)

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On 2024-05-17 22:41:19 +0000, Tyrone said:

On May 17, 2024 at 5:33:24 PM EDT, "Andrew" <[email protected]> wrote:

Please see the sig for my summary of the emulators that I had tested.

I did. Unless you are really desperate to run Android apps on your Windows PC,
I don't see the point in any of them. You can just buy an Android phone/tablet and not have to worry about emulation issues (and you listed MANY
issues).

Same goes for iPhones and iPads. If you want to run iOS software, then just get an iOS device. Easy. No compatibility issues.

Newer Mac computers can easily run iOS / iPadOS apps, but the developer
does have to specifically allow it on the app's App Store settings.

The emulators I have used were always for hardware that is no longer available. Those were actually uselful. When the hardware is readily available, I see no point in fussing with emulators.

Depends on what you wanting to do. For example, if you are a Mac user,
but need to occasionally use a Windows app, then it may make more sense
to use something like VMWare Fusion (which is free for personal use) to
emulate / virtualise a Windows PC rather than buying a real computer to
take up extra desk space and sitting idle most of the time. Running the
two OSes on the same computer can also make it much easier to share
files and copy-paste data between them.

Cost is the other issue. A whole spearate device can cost a realtively
large amount of money, while an emulator / virtualiser is usually much
cheaper or even free. The downside is that emulators / virtualisers can
be a legal issue - the emaultor software may be fine, but obtaining the necessary ROMs and / or apps to run on it can be a very different
question.

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On May 17, 2024 at 9:31:40 PM EDT, "Your Name" <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-17 22:41:19 +0000, Tyrone said:

On May 17, 2024 at 5:33:24 PM EDT, "Andrew" <[email protected]> wrote:

Please see the sig for my summary of the emulators that I had tested.

I did. Unless you are really desperate to run Android apps on your Windows PC,
I don't see the point in any of them. You can just buy an Android
phone/tablet and not have to worry about emulation issues (and you listed MANY
issues).

Same goes for iPhones and iPads. If you want to run iOS software, then just >> get an iOS device. Easy. No compatibility issues.

Newer Mac computers can easily run iOS / iPadOS apps, but the developer
does have to specifically allow it on the app's App Store settings.

True, but has nothing to do with wanting an "iOS emulator" running on an Android phone. I use a couple iPad apps on this MacBook Pro. They run fine.

The emulators I have used were always for hardware that is no longer
available. Those were actually uselful. When the hardware is readily
available, I see no point in fussing with emulators.

Depends on what you wanting to do. For example, if you are a Mac user,
but need to occasionally use a Windows app, then it may make more sense
to use something like VMWare Fusion (which is free for personal use) to emulate / virtualise a Windows PC rather than buying a real computer to
take up extra desk space and sitting idle most of the time. Running the
two OSes on the same computer can also make it much easier to share
files and copy-paste data between them.

I also do that every day. I have Windows 11 Arm in VMWare Fusion on this MacBook Pro. It also runs fine. The Windows 11 license was $30. I DLed the Windows 11 Arm DVD image directly from MS. VMWare Fusion makes this very easy to do.

Because I did not want yet another Intel-based jet engine space heater on my desk. I am done with Intel shit.

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Hank Rogers wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 17:08:52 -0500 :

Yes, he is a bad person. Mainly because he worships a different chinese telephone.

Kill the infidels!

I love it!
You actually made me laugh out loud on that one.

Spot on correct.
(Although I worship nothing.)

You actually understand Alan Baker even better than I do (since I just
think his IQ is so low that he's incapable of adding anything of value).

But you pegged his attitude perfectly!

Thanks for the humor. And wit. (I love the wit!)
I wish I could be as succinctly sarcastic as you are.

You're right on target with Alan Baker's attitude.

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Tyrone wrote on Fri, 17 May 2024 22:41:19 +0000 :

I did. Unless you are really desperate to run Android apps on your Windows PC,
I don't see the point in any of them. You can just buy an Android phone/tablet and not have to worry about emulation issues (and you listed MANY
issues).

Same goes for iPhones and iPads. If you want to run iOS software, then just get an iOS device. Easy. No compatibility issues.

The emulators I have used were always for hardware that is no longer available. Those were actually uselful. When the hardware is readily available, I see no point in fussing with emulators.

Since you helped me, I will again try to return the favor to provide
some answers to your concerns, but we each may weigh them differently.

And that's OK as emulation isn't for everyone as not everyone needs it.
I don't need/want emulation, for example. And neither do you.

While I don't disagree with your reasonable points above, another key
reason for mobile device emulation on a desktop is so that developers can
test their mobile device code easily on hundreds of devices with an equally large number of device setup and configuration.

In my experience (admittedly only with free Android emulators), the
emulator comes with anywhere from 1 to scores of Android mobile devices you
can emulate, one at a time, to load your code into to test how it works.

That's the main point of emulation, as far as I'm aware, which, for you and
for me, isn't of all that much use, as you noted, since we're not
developers.

A bit off that topic is mirroring, where mobile devices can mirror on all
three desktop platforms, which is something I do every moment of every day
that I'm sitting at my computer.
<https://i.postimg.cc/KvTvtMS8/scrcpy31.jpg>

Mirroring allows me to operate my phone (while it's in my pocket) on my PC
with full functionality - using the PC's keyboard, mouse, monitor, speaker, microphone & clipboard. In addition, I mount my phone as a Windows drive.
<https://i.postimg.cc/hjkVFyqJ/scrcpy07.jpg> Android mnt as drive letter

Since I have a large monitor, my phone becomes almost two feet tall and
about ten inches wide - which makes it really easy to display and interact
with it over the Wi-Fi network - where I love the keyboard & clipboard use.
<https://i.postimg.cc/9FJMKYch/scrcpy21.jpg>

Effectively, over Wi-Fi, my real Android phone becomes a Windows phone.
<https://i.postimg.cc/tgvzsMRm/scrcpy25.jpg> Connect over Wi-Fi sans USB

For example, I can simply drag and drop over Wi-Fi an APK to install it.
<https://i.postimg.cc/wvsbcNBz/scrcpy05.jpg> Drag APK from Windows

But I admit to make all that efficient took a bit of Windows knowledge.
<https://i.postimg.cc/tTmdgKTB/scrcpy02.jpg> An efficient program setup
<https://i.postimg.cc/XqZsmVFM/scrcpy14.jpg> AppPath & shortcut TARGET
<https://i.postimg.cc/g2yNftw0/scrcpy15.jpg> Trick to pin batch shortcut
<https://i.postimg.cc/5NrK7jtg/scrcpy16.jpg> powershell hide-console trick

Yet mirroring is not emulation (although emulation can do similar things).

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Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-17, Cameo <[email protected]d> wrote:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a
programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the
original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation".

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the
licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple
prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Is it still a Berkeley Linux derivative?

No, it's the real thing: Unix. Always has been.

Yes, I knew it and I misspoke. Awkward.

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Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-17 12:22, Cameo wrote:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a
programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the
original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation".

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the
licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple
prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Is it still a Berkeley Linux derivative?

What is "Berkeley Linux"?

I know of a "Berkeley UNIX", but I haven't heard of a Linux Berkeley distribution.

Pardon me. I was a bit distracted when I wrote it. You are right, of
course.

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On 2024-05-18, Cameo <[email protected]d> wrote:

Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-17, Cameo <[email protected]d> wrote:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a
programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the
original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation". >>>>

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the >>>>> licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple
prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Is it still a Berkeley Linux derivative?

No, it's the real thing: Unix. Always has been.

Yes, I knew it and I misspoke. Awkward.

Sure you did...

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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On 2024-05-18 09:45, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-05-18, Cameo <[email protected]d> wrote:

Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-17, Cameo <[email protected]d> wrote:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a
programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the
original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation". >>>>>

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the >>>>>> licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple
prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Is it still a Berkeley Linux derivative?

No, it's the real thing: Unix. Always has been.

Yes, I knew it and I misspoke. Awkward.

Sure you did...

Hey... ...people do just occasionally make mistakes.

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Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-18 09:45, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-05-18, Cameo <[email protected]d> wrote:

Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-17, Cameo <[email protected]d> wrote:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a >>>>>>> programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the >>>>>>> original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation". >>>>>>

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the >>>>>>> licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple >>>>>>> prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Is it still a Berkeley Linux derivative?

No, it's the real thing: Unix. Always has been.

Yes, I knew it and I misspoke. Awkward.

Sure you did...

Hey... ...people do just occasionally make mistakes.

Nor Apple fans though! 😏

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On 2024-05-19 10:11, Cameo wrote:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-18 09:45, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-05-18, Cameo <[email protected]d> wrote:

Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-17, Cameo <[email protected]d> wrote:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a >>>>>>>> programming environment similar to flash and director and more >>>>>>>> recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the >>>>>>>> original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation". >>>>>>>

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the >>>>>>>> licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple >>>>>>>> prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Is it still a Berkeley Linux derivative?

No, it's the real thing: Unix. Always has been.

Yes, I knew it and I misspoke. Awkward.

Sure you did...

Hey... ...people do just occasionally make mistakes.

Nor Apple fans though! 😏

You know...

...when someone takes a moment to defend you...

...best not to be a dick about it...

...and then try to defend it with a wink.

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On 2024-05-19 17:11:44 +0000, Cameo said:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-18 09:45, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-05-18, Cameo <[email protected]d> wrote:

Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-17, Cameo <[email protected]d> wrote:

Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2024-05-16 16:33, Danart wrote:

So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a >>>>>>>> programming environment similar to flash and director and more >>>>>>>> recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the >>>>>>>> original iphone.

You need to learn the difference between "emulation" and "simulation". >>>>>>>

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux the >>>>>>>> licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple >>>>>>>> prefers you not to have one ).

iOS is NOT Linux.

Is it still a Berkeley Linux derivative?

No, it's the real thing: Unix. Always has been.

Yes, I knew it and I misspoke. Awkward.

Sure you did...

Hey... ...people do just occasionally make mistakes.

Nor Apple fans though! 😏

Apple's "predictive text" / auto-(in)correct is just as utterly useless
and annoyingly as everyone else's version. :-p

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Danart wrote:
So in the past an iphone emulator was made in Adobe Air. Air is a

programming environment similar to flash and director and more
recently associates with HTML5. This was spot on in emulating the
original iphone.

The only problem with iphone emulation is that while it is linux

the licensing via Apple products ( which is the real reason why Apple
prefers you not to have one ).

Tons of applications in the iOS environment could actually be

utilized. I would not mind to have one of my own as I use Android on a
regular basis.

Now your going to say "what about the hardware" ? Well

the hardware of the iphone is not so different from the android
counter-parts. So something like a Goolge-Pixel or even Samsung Galaxy
models would probably do justice.

Again unless you like purchasing only Apple devices for some

reason?

Wow lot of responses.

Okay Berkly, Mach, etc..... but lets be fair. I am thinking where we
had Xcode on the CD with the operating system allowing you to make
whatever code for the OSX machine, or use the terminal itself to write
and compile. I am asking myself this question from time to time.
Rather then put a "death clock" on every single portion of
the operating system. Just make a release that could install without
the bs. Let people have there privacy, and see what they will do with
it.

If Apple made a legit emulator you literally could use via there store
system or install via private means. Imagine what would happen next.
Imagine people installing iOS across Intel, ARM, and PPC devices.
Imagine if iOS was actually better then Windows or Apple and people
started to use iOS over Windows. Imagine a tiny operating system (
that is not Android or Linux ) which could run even on a 100mhz
machine ( with updated hardware ) of course. Then be re-purposed.

I was just thinking about how Apple made claims about the privacy of
their iphone security lock. Then out of the blue some rouge programmer
decided to unlock the device for the "feds". Where is that
rouge giving the world an actual installer version of iOS or even a self-contained, portable, disposable emulator?

https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/14/22383957/fbi-san-bernadino-iphone-hack-shooting-investigation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%E2%80%93FBI_encryption_dispute

I find it to be insanity when I have to actually talk to a "help
desk" person just to get something to work. I even find it more
insane when you want to install something ( Any Apple operating system
) and it is the same exact Operating System but the "compile
date" is not matching up, and whoop-de-do another call to the
"help desk" to get something to work. The Apple eco system
literally involves a "human-presence" which I guess is good
for the economy to have somebody from mid-west and not france, India,
or the Philippines with a job. That or I have to figure out how to do back-flips and @#$@$@$ my way around various loop-holes and commands.
I get it, they want people "not to think too hard about it"
at all, like "don't worry babe I will pull out in time"
method of thinking. Where is the silence?


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