• Re: charging port

    From Chris in Makati@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Apr 28 08:11:39 2024
    On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:00:13 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:

    The charging port on my iPhone 14 has gone bad already. I�ve tried several >cords including Apple ones and they don�t work. I was forced to go to
    Walmart last night at 10:30pm and get a wireless charger.

    Of course the warranty has ended and I don�t have Apple Care, but I used >Apple�s service app to find an authorized service center near me and make
    an appointment for Monday, rather than the Genius Bar which is 30+ miles >away.

    This is the second time this has happened to me. My iPhone 13 failed for
    the same reason, which is why I upgraded to the iPhone 14. In the meantime
    I have a work issued iPhone 11 that uses the same exact cord for charging
    and is still going strong all these years.

    My charging port has stopped working or worked intermittently a couple
    of times. Both times it turned out to be a buildup of dust inside the
    socket, probably due to me carrying the phone around in my pocket.

    Using a combination of a watchmakers screwdriver and a pair of pointed
    tweezers I was able to remove most of it and got it working again.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Chris in Makati on Sun Apr 28 11:14:45 2024
    On 28.04.24 09:11, Chris in Makati wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:00:13 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:

    The charging port on my iPhone 14 has gone bad already. I’ve tried several >> cords including Apple ones and they don’t work. I was forced to go to
    Walmart last night at 10:30pm and get a wireless charger.

    Of course the warranty has ended and I don’t have Apple Care, but I used >> Apple’s service app to find an authorized service center near me and make >> an appointment for Monday, rather than the Genius Bar which is 30+ miles
    away.

    This is the second time this has happened to me. My iPhone 13 failed for
    the same reason, which is why I upgraded to the iPhone 14. In the meantime >> I have a work issued iPhone 11 that uses the same exact cord for charging
    and is still going strong all these years.

    My charging port has stopped working or worked intermittently a couple
    of times. Both times it turned out to be a buildup of dust inside the
    socket, probably due to me carrying the phone around in my pocket.

    Using a combination of a watchmakers screwdriver and a pair of pointed tweezers I was able to remove most of it and got it working again.

    This is again a typical "badgolferman-claim". Nothing but bullshit. In
    our family with about 20-30 iPhones in the last 15 years we never
    experienced a similar issue. I simply do not believe him one single word.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 28 10:14:05 2024
    Jörg Lorenz wrote:

    On 28.04.24 09:11, Chris in Makati wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:00:13 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The charging port on my iPhone 14 has gone bad already.
    I’ve tried several cords including Apple ones and they
    don’t work. I was forced to go to Walmart last night at
    10:30pm and get a wireless charger.

    This is the second time this has happened to me. My iPhone
    13 failed for the same reason, which is why I upgraded to
    the iPhone 14. In the meantime I have a work issued iPhone
    11 that uses the same exact cord for charging and is still
    going strong all these years.

    My charging port has stopped working or worked
    intermittently a couple of times. Both times it turned out
    to be a buildup of dust inside the socket, probably due to
    me carrying the phone around in my pocket.

    Using a combination of a watchmakers screwdriver and a pair
    of pointed tweezers I was able to remove most of it and got
    it working again.

    This is again a typical "badgolferman-claim". Nothing but
    bullshit. In our family with about 20-30 iPhones in the last
    15 years we never experienced a similar issue. I simply do not
    believe him one single word.

    FWIW, the charging port on my last iPhone did stop working. It
    might have been caused by a dust build-up from my pocket too,
    also I think I got water in it. As I had wireless charger at
    home and in the car it wasn't a big deal. Plus it was four years
    old and time to upgrade to the iPhone 15 anyway. But it does
    happen. Although I would assume the charging port doesn't stop
    working for no reason!

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Apr 28 12:51:11 2024
    On 28.04.24 12:14, Blueshirt wrote:
    FWIW, the charging port on my last iPhone did stop working. It
    might have been caused by a dust build-up from my pocket too,
    also I think I got water in it.

    You definitely left the operating envelope of the iPhone.

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  • From Wilf@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Sun Apr 28 14:19:58 2024
    On 28/04/2024 at 12:03, badgolferman wrote:
    The battery is down to 88% already, but the tech told me Apple
    doesn’t recommend changing the battery until it gets below 80%.

    The battery in my iPhone 14 Pro, purchased October 2022, is now down to maximum capacity 86%, which severely limits the length of any charge. I
    must say that I'm surprised at this after only 18 months. Oh well. And
    I'm not a troll, my name isn't the mythical "Arlen", and my battery
    really is down to 86%.

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    Wilf

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Wilf on Sun Apr 28 15:52:49 2024
    On 28.04.24 15:19, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 12:03, badgolferman wrote:
    The battery is down to 88% already, but the tech told me Apple
    doesn’t recommend changing the battery until it gets below 80%.

    The battery in my iPhone 14 Pro, purchased October 2022, is now down to maximum capacity 86%, which severely limits the length of any charge. I
    must say that I'm surprised at this after only 18 months. Oh well. And
    I'm not a troll, my name isn't the mythical "Arlen", and my battery
    really is down to 86%.

    What is your question?
    You simply mistreated the battery of your phone. Quite simple. My iPhone
    14 is running 24/7 since I bought it in November 22. The battery
    performance level is still 100% according to the device.


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  • From Wilf@21:1/5 to Wilf on Sun Apr 28 14:21:06 2024
    On 28/04/2024 at 14:19, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 12:03, badgolferman wrote:
    The battery is down to 88% already, but the tech told me Apple
    doesn’t recommend changing the battery until it gets below 80%.

    The battery in my iPhone 14 Pro, purchased October 2022, is now down to maximum capacity 86%, which severely limits the length of any charge. I
    must say that I'm surprised at this after only 18 months. Oh well. And
    I'm not a troll, my name isn't the mythical "Arlen", and my battery
    really is down to 86%.


    p.s. I'm waiting for someone to respond "no it isn't"

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    Wilf

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 28 15:56:41 2024
    On 28.04.24 15:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 28.04.24 15:19, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 12:03, badgolferman wrote:
    The battery is down to 88% already, but the tech told me Apple
    doesn’t recommend changing the battery until it gets below 80%.

    The battery in my iPhone 14 Pro, purchased October 2022, is now down to
    maximum capacity 86%, which severely limits the length of any charge. I
    must say that I'm surprised at this after only 18 months. Oh well. And
    I'm not a troll, my name isn't the mythical "Arlen", and my battery
    really is down to 86%.

    What is your question?
    You simply mistreated the battery of your phone. Quite simple. My iPhone
    14 is running 24/7 since I bought it in November 22. The battery
    performance level is still 100% according to the device.

    The SE2020 of my wife bought summer 21 stands at 86% and is still
    delivering one whole working day with heavy use.


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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Chris in Makati on Sun Apr 28 09:58:19 2024
    On 2024-04-28 03:11, Chris in Makati wrote:

    My charging port has stopped working or worked intermittently a couple
    of times. Both times it turned out to be a buildup of dust inside the
    socket, probably due to me carrying the phone around in my pocket.

    Using a combination of a watchmakers screwdriver and a pair of pointed tweezers I was able to remove most of it and got it working again.

    I use a thin piece of paper board and alcohol to clean the port and
    contacts. About 1 / year seems to do it. iPhone 11 - coming up on 5
    years of good use this Dec. - will stretch it another year.

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    nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”
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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Wilf on Sun Apr 28 10:01:12 2024
    On 2024-04-28 09:19, Wilf wrote:

    The battery in my iPhone 14 Pro,  purchased October 2022, is now down to maximum capacity 86%, which severely limits the length of any charge.  I must say that I'm surprised at this after only 18 months.

    iPhone 11 Pro. 4.5 years. 90%. Doesn't affect my daily use at all.

    --
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    nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”
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  • From Wilf@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 28 15:48:22 2024
    On 28/04/2024 at 14:56, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 28.04.24 15:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 28.04.24 15:19, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 12:03, badgolferman wrote:
    The battery is down to 88% already, but the tech told me Apple
    doesn’t recommend changing the battery until it gets below 80%.

    The battery in my iPhone 14 Pro, purchased October 2022, is now down to >>> maximum capacity 86%, which severely limits the length of any charge. I >>> must say that I'm surprised at this after only 18 months. Oh well. And >>> I'm not a troll, my name isn't the mythical "Arlen", and my battery
    really is down to 86%.

    What is your question?
    You simply mistreated the battery of your phone. Quite simple. My iPhone
    14 is running 24/7 since I bought it in November 22. The battery
    performance level is still 100% according to the device.

    The SE2020 of my wife bought summer 21 stands at 86% and is still
    delivering one whole working day with heavy use.



    You are obviously a caring and wonderful family. My congratulations.

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    Wilf

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  • From Wilf@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 28 15:47:50 2024
    On 28/04/2024 at 14:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 28.04.24 15:19, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 12:03, badgolferman wrote:
    The battery is down to 88% already, but the tech told me Apple
    doesn’t recommend changing the battery until it gets below 80%.

    The battery in my iPhone 14 Pro, purchased October 2022, is now down to
    maximum capacity 86%, which severely limits the length of any charge. I
    must say that I'm surprised at this after only 18 months. Oh well. And
    I'm not a troll, my name isn't the mythical "Arlen", and my battery
    really is down to 86%.

    What is your question?
    You simply mistreated the battery of your phone. Quite simple. My iPhone
    14 is running 24/7 since I bought it in November 22. The battery
    performance level is still 100% according to the device.



    Whatever. You're treatment of your iPhone must be legendary. But
    honestly, you just can't be civil, can you?

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    Wilf

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  • From Wilf@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sun Apr 28 15:48:58 2024
    On 28/04/2024 at 15:01, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2024-04-28 09:19, Wilf wrote:

    The battery in my iPhone 14 Pro,  purchased October 2022, is now down to
    maximum capacity 86%, which severely limits the length of any charge.  I
    must say that I'm surprised at this after only 18 months.

    iPhone 11 Pro. 4.5 years. 90%. Doesn't affect my daily use at all.


    Thanks. I must be doing something wrong. Like using it too much!

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Wilf on Sun Apr 28 17:02:20 2024
    On 28.04.24 16:47, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 14:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 28.04.24 15:19, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 12:03, badgolferman wrote:
    The battery is down to 88% already, but the tech told me Apple
    doesn’t recommend changing the battery until it gets below 80%.

    The battery in my iPhone 14 Pro, purchased October 2022, is now down to >>> maximum capacity 86%, which severely limits the length of any charge. I >>> must say that I'm surprised at this after only 18 months. Oh well. And >>> I'm not a troll, my name isn't the mythical "Arlen", and my battery
    really is down to 86%.

    What is your question?
    You simply mistreated the battery of your phone. Quite simple. My iPhone
    14 is running 24/7 since I bought it in November 22. The battery
    performance level is still 100% according to the device.



    Whatever. You're treatment of your iPhone must be legendary. But
    honestly, you just can't be civil, can you?

    What is your question, Wilf? Or do you join the Apple-bashers like the
    OP who is really ridiculous figure given he uses iPhones for years and
    is permanently whining and bashing Apple.

    Grown up people buy something else and shut up.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Wilf on Sun Apr 28 17:34:40 2024
    On 28.04.24 17:22, Wilf wrote:
    Oh dear. Apple-bashers". That is pathetic. I'm asking a simple
    question - shall I spell it out for you?

    W h at a m I d o i n g w r o n g w i t h my i P h o n e f o r i
    t s b a t t e r y t o h a v e
    d e t e r i o r a t e d i n s u c h a s h o r t t i m e ? C o u l
    d i t b e d u e t o n i g h t l y w i r e l e s s c h a r g i n g?

    Very probable! Wireless charging kills phone batteries because it is so inefficient that it heats up the battery to not so healthy temps. And
    since you bought it roughly 500 times. And do not discharge the phone
    until it turns itself off and do not leave it on the charger longer than necessary and do not let it lay around in the sun or a hot car.

    By the way, I've never had a non-Apple smart phone. But you just go on
    with your ridiculous ad hominem insults as they obviously make you feel
    like a big, big man.

    Poor boy. And stop whining.


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  • From Tyrone@21:1/5 to Wilf on Sun Apr 28 15:38:39 2024
    On Apr 28, 2024 at 11:22:03 AM EDT, "Wilf" <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Oh dear. Apple-bashers". That is pathetic. I'm asking a simple
    question - shall I spell it out for you?

    W h at a m I d o i n g w r o n g w i t h my i P h o n e f o r i
    t s b a t t e r y t o h a v e
    d e t e r i o r a t e d i n s u c h a s h o r t t i m e ? C o u l
    d i t b e d u e t o n i g h t l y w i r e l e s s c h a r g i n g?

    It sits on a "wireless" charger every night? I would say yes, that is killing it. Heat.

    I have an 8 Plus (6.5 years old) that is at 99%. Granted it does not get much use these days. My work-issued 12 Pro Max (3.5 years old and sees lots of
    use) is at 91%.

    I don't charge them daily. I charge them when they get down to around 50%. I use iPad chargers since it charges faster.

    Personally I would never use "wireless" charging.

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  • From Wilf@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 28 16:48:35 2024
    On 28/04/2024 at 16:34, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 28.04.24 17:22, Wilf wrote:
    Oh dear. Apple-bashers". That is pathetic. I'm asking a simple
    question - shall I spell it out for you?

    W h at a m I d o i n g w r o n g w i t h my i P h o n e f o r i
    t s b a t t e r y t o h a v e
    d e t e r i o r a t e d i n s u c h a s h o r t t i m e ? C o u l
    d i t b e d u e t o n i g h t l y w i r e l e s s c h a r g i n g?

    Very probable! Wireless charging kills phone batteries because it is so inefficient that it heats up the battery to not so healthy temps. And
    since you bought it roughly 500 times. And do not discharge the phone
    until it turns itself off and do not leave it on the charger longer than necessary and do not let it lay around in the sun or a hot car.

    By the way, I've never had a non-Apple smart phone. But you just go on
    with your ridiculous ad hominem insults as they obviously make you feel
    like a big, big man.

    Poor boy. And stop whining.



    As I say. A big man. QED. Maybe go on stage with that comedy patter?

    --
    Wilf

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  • From Wilf@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 28 16:22:03 2024
    On 28/04/2024 at 16:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 28.04.24 16:47, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 14:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 28.04.24 15:19, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 12:03, badgolferman wrote:
    The battery is down to 88% already, but the tech told me Apple
    doesn’t recommend changing the battery until it gets below 80%.

    The battery in my iPhone 14 Pro, purchased October 2022, is now down to >>>> maximum capacity 86%, which severely limits the length of any charge. I >>>> must say that I'm surprised at this after only 18 months. Oh well. And >>>> I'm not a troll, my name isn't the mythical "Arlen", and my battery
    really is down to 86%.

    What is your question?
    You simply mistreated the battery of your phone. Quite simple. My iPhone >>> 14 is running 24/7 since I bought it in November 22. The battery
    performance level is still 100% according to the device.



    Whatever. You're treatment of your iPhone must be legendary. But
    honestly, you just can't be civil, can you?

    What is your question, Wilf? Or do you join the Apple-bashers like the
    OP who is really ridiculous figure given he uses iPhones for years and
    is permanently whining and bashing Apple.

    Grown up people buy something else and shut up.


    Oh dear. Apple-bashers". That is pathetic. I'm asking a simple
    question - shall I spell it out for you?

    W h at a m I d o i n g w r o n g w i t h my i P h o n e f o r i
    t s b a t t e r y t o h a v e
    d e t e r i o r a t e d i n s u c h a s h o r t t i m e ? C o u l
    d i t b e d u e t o n i g h t l y w i r e l e s s c h a r g i n g?


    By the way, I've never had a non-Apple smart phone. But you just go on
    with your ridiculous ad hominem insults as they obviously make you feel
    like a big, big man.

    --
    Wilf

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  • From Wilf@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Sun Apr 28 16:50:33 2024
    On 28/04/2024 at 16:38, Tyrone wrote:
    On Apr 28, 2024 at 11:22:03 AM EDT, "Wilf" <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Oh dear. Apple-bashers". That is pathetic. I'm asking a simple
    question - shall I spell it out for you?

    W h at a m I d o i n g w r o n g w i t h my i P h o n e f o r i
    t s b a t t e r y t o h a v e
    d e t e r i o r a t e d i n s u c h a s h o r t t i m e ? C o u l
    d i t b e d u e t o n i g h t l y w i r e l e s s c h a r g i n g?

    It sits on a "wireless" charger every night? I would say yes, that is killing
    it. Heat.

    I have an 8 Plus (6.5 years old) that is at 99%. Granted it does not get much
    use these days. My work-issued 12 Pro Max (3.5 years old and sees lots of use) is at 91%.

    I don't charge them daily. I charge them when they get down to around 50%. I use iPad chargers since it charges faster.

    Personally I would never use "wireless" charging.

    Oh dear. I was taken in by the convenience of wireless charging,
    perhaps. Thank you for your helpful reply.
    --
    Wilf

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Wilf on Sun Apr 28 12:51:52 2024
    On 2024-04-28 10:47, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 14:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 28.04.24 15:19, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 12:03, badgolferman wrote:
    The battery is down to 88% already, but the tech told me Apple
    doesn’t recommend changing the battery until it gets below 80%.

    The battery in my iPhone 14 Pro,  purchased October 2022, is now down to >>> maximum capacity 86%, which severely limits the length of any charge.  I >>> must say that I'm surprised at this after only 18 months.  Oh well.  And >>> I'm not a troll, my name isn't the mythical "Arlen", and my battery
    really is down to 86%.

    What is your question?
    You simply mistreated the battery of your phone. Quite simple. My iPhone
    14 is running 24/7 since I bought it in November 22. The battery
    performance level is still 100% according to the device.



    Whatever. You're treatment of your iPhone must be legendary.  But
    honestly, you just can't be civil, can you?

    In Jôrg's world it you don't behave, live, breathe, opine, work (and so
    on) like him, you're doing it wrong.

    --
    “Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first;
    nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”
    - Charles de Gaulle.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Wilf on Sun Apr 28 12:56:08 2024
    On 2024-04-28 10:48, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 15:01, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2024-04-28 09:19, Wilf wrote:

    The battery in my iPhone 14 Pro,  purchased October 2022, is now down to >>> maximum capacity 86%, which severely limits the length of any charge.  I >>> must say that I'm surprised at this after only 18 months.

    iPhone 11 Pro.  4.5 years.   90%. Doesn't affect my daily use at all.


    Thanks.  I must be doing something wrong.  Like using it too much!

    It does come down to use cases. I can do 2 - 3 days per charge (esp
    weekends), whereas I know a couple people who have to be near a charger
    by 14:00 every day for a top up to make it through the workday and plug
    into the car to top up on the way home (people who use the phone a lot).

    If you regularly dip below 20% charge level (like daily), then that can contribute a lot to faster wear of the battery. (Although it makes a
    good case for 100% charge as the battery doesn't remain at that voltage
    very long.

    Leaving the phone in the car on hot/sunny days is a good way to abuse
    the battery too ...

    --
    “Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first;
    nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”
    - Charles de Gaulle.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Wilf on Sun Apr 28 13:00:38 2024
    On 2024-04-28 11:50, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 16:38, Tyrone wrote:
    On Apr 28, 2024 at 11:22:03 AM EDT, "Wilf" <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Oh dear.  Apple-bashers".  That is pathetic.  I'm asking a simple
    question - shall I spell it out for you?

    W h at  a m  I  d o i n g  w r o n g  w i t h  my  i P h o n e  f o r  i
    t s  b a t t e r y  t o  h a v e
    d e t e r i o r a t e d  i n  s u c h  a  s h o r t  t i m e ?   C o u l
    d  i t  b e  d u e  t o  n i g h t l y  w i r e l e s s  c h a r g i >>> n g?

    It sits on a "wireless" charger every night?  I would say yes, that is
    killing
    it. Heat.

    I have an 8 Plus (6.5 years old) that is at 99%.  Granted it does not
    get much
    use these days.  My work-issued 12 Pro Max (3.5 years old and sees
    lots of
    use) is at 91%.

    I don't charge them daily. I charge them when they get down to around
    50%.  I
    use iPad chargers since it charges faster.

    Personally I would never use "wireless" charging.

    Oh dear.  I was taken in by the convenience of wireless charging,
    perhaps.  Thank you for your helpful reply.

    It's not as bad as he makes out. It is inefficient (20 - 25% loss), but
    the heat generated is not all that bad. It's also (usually) slower to
    charge wirelessly so there is a negative penalty there. And of you
    don't have your phone in a case, then there's even less heat build up.

    I avoid wireless charging more over the environmental reason than the
    battery heating.

    Of course with my Watch it's the only way to charge - but it's every
    other night so not so bad.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Mon Apr 29 09:38:06 2024
    On 2024-04-28 15:38:39 +0000, Tyrone said:
    On Apr 28, 2024 at 11:22:03 AM EDT, "Wilf" <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Oh dear. Apple-bashers". That is pathetic. I'm asking a simple
    question - shall I spell it out for you?

    W h at a m I d o i n g w r o n g w i t h my i P h o n e f o r i
    t s b a t t e r y t o h a v e
    d e t e r i o r a t e d i n s u c h a s h o r t t i m e ? C o u l
    d i t b e d u e t o n i g h t l y w i r e l e s s c h a r g i n g?

    It sits on a "wireless" charger every night? I would say yes, that is killing
    it. Heat.

    I have an 8 Plus (6.5 years old) that is at 99%. Granted it does not get much
    use these days. My work-issued 12 Pro Max (3.5 years old and sees lots of use) is at 91%.

    I don't charge them daily. I charge them when they get down to around 50%. I use iPad chargers since it charges faster.

    Personally I would never use "wireless" charging.

    Any kind of battery charging produces heat, although wirelessly may
    well be worse do to be highly inefficient (which is going to be a
    problem when Apple rumouredly stops using any port on their devices
    leaving *only* wireless connections).

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Wilf on Sun Apr 28 18:37:19 2024
    On 2024-04-28 07:47, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 14:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 28.04.24 15:19, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 12:03, badgolferman wrote:
    The battery is down to 88% already, but the tech told me Apple
    doesn’t recommend changing the battery until it gets below 80%.

    The battery in my iPhone 14 Pro,  purchased October 2022, is now down to >>> maximum capacity 86%, which severely limits the length of any charge.  I >>> must say that I'm surprised at this after only 18 months.  Oh well.  And >>> I'm not a troll, my name isn't the mythical "Arlen", and my battery
    really is down to 86%.

    What is your question?
    You simply mistreated the battery of your phone. Quite simple. My iPhone
    14 is running 24/7 since I bought it in November 22. The battery
    performance level is still 100% according to the device.



    Whatever. You're treatment of your iPhone must be legendary.  But
    honestly, you just can't be civil, can you?


    In what particular was he UNcivil?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Chris in Makati on Sun Apr 28 18:35:52 2024
    On 2024-04-28 00:11, Chris in Makati wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:00:13 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:

    The charging port on my iPhone 14 has gone bad already. I’ve tried several >> cords including Apple ones and they don’t work. I was forced to go to
    Walmart last night at 10:30pm and get a wireless charger.

    Of course the warranty has ended and I don’t have Apple Care, but I used >> Apple’s service app to find an authorized service center near me and make >> an appointment for Monday, rather than the Genius Bar which is 30+ miles
    away.

    This is the second time this has happened to me. My iPhone 13 failed for
    the same reason, which is why I upgraded to the iPhone 14. In the meantime >> I have a work issued iPhone 11 that uses the same exact cord for charging
    and is still going strong all these years.

    My charging port has stopped working or worked intermittently a couple
    of times. Both times it turned out to be a buildup of dust inside the
    socket, probably due to me carrying the phone around in my pocket.

    Using a combination of a watchmakers screwdriver and a pair of pointed tweezers I was able to remove most of it and got it working again.

    The rubberized tooth cleaning picks...

    <https://assets.shop.loblaws.ca/products/20600194/b1/en/open/[email protected]>

    Work excellently.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Chris on Mon Apr 29 03:58:00 2024
    On 2024-04-28, Chris <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 14:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 28.04.24 15:19, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 12:03, badgolferman wrote:

    The battery is down to 88% already, but the tech told me Apple
    doesn’t recommend changing the battery until it gets below 80%.

    The battery in my iPhone 14 Pro, purchased October 2022, is now
    down to maximum capacity 86%, which severely limits the length of
    any charge. I must say that I'm surprised at this after only 18
    months. Oh well. And I'm not a troll, my name isn't the mythical
    "Arlen", and my battery really is down to 86%.

    What is your question? You simply mistreated the battery of your
    phone. Quite simple. My iPhone 14 is running 24/7 since I bought it
    in November 22. The battery performance level is still 100% according
    to the device.

    I call bullshit. No matter how well you treat a battery it *will* lose capacity over time. In nearly 18 months of regular use the battery
    will have lost at least a few percent.

    Batteries also don't age linearly due to fluctuations in the mass
    production manufacturing process and differences in environmental
    factors and usage patterns.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Apr 29 04:00:10 2024
    On 2024-04-29, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2024-04-28 00:11, Chris in Makati wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:00:13 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The charging port on my iPhone 14 has gone bad already. I’ve tried
    several cords including Apple ones and they don’t work. I was forced
    to go to Walmart last night at 10:30pm and get a wireless charger.

    Of course the warranty has ended and I don’t have Apple Care, but I
    used Apple’s service app to find an authorized service center near
    me and make an appointment for Monday, rather than the Genius Bar
    which is 30+ miles away.

    This is the second time this has happened to me. My iPhone 13 failed
    for the same reason, which is why I upgraded to the iPhone 14. In
    the meantime I have a work issued iPhone 11 that uses the same exact
    cord for charging and is still going strong all these years.

    My charging port has stopped working or worked intermittently a
    couple of times. Both times it turned out to be a buildup of dust
    inside the socket, probably due to me carrying the phone around in my
    pocket.

    Using a combination of a watchmakers screwdriver and a pair of
    pointed tweezers I was able to remove most of it and got it working
    again.

    The rubberized tooth cleaning picks...

    <https://assets.shop.loblaws.ca/products/20600194/b1/en/open/[email protected]>

    Work excellently.

    I've been using one of these for years to clean Lightning and USB-C
    charging ports, and it's been great at it:

    <https://www.pureport.net>

    I'm almost always surprised by how much lint and dirt comes out of them.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Apr 28 22:05:14 2024
    On 2024-04-28 21:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-04-29, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2024-04-28 00:11, Chris in Makati wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:00:13 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The charging port on my iPhone 14 has gone bad already. I’ve tried
    several cords including Apple ones and they don’t work. I was forced >>>> to go to Walmart last night at 10:30pm and get a wireless charger.

    Of course the warranty has ended and I don’t have Apple Care, but I
    used Apple’s service app to find an authorized service center near
    me and make an appointment for Monday, rather than the Genius Bar
    which is 30+ miles away.

    This is the second time this has happened to me. My iPhone 13 failed
    for the same reason, which is why I upgraded to the iPhone 14. In
    the meantime I have a work issued iPhone 11 that uses the same exact
    cord for charging and is still going strong all these years.

    My charging port has stopped working or worked intermittently a
    couple of times. Both times it turned out to be a buildup of dust
    inside the socket, probably due to me carrying the phone around in my
    pocket.

    Using a combination of a watchmakers screwdriver and a pair of
    pointed tweezers I was able to remove most of it and got it working
    again.

    The rubberized tooth cleaning picks...

    <https://assets.shop.loblaws.ca/products/20600194/b1/en/open/[email protected]>

    Work excellently.

    I've been using one of these for years to clean Lightning and USB-C
    charging ports, and it's been great at it:

    <https://www.pureport.net>

    I'm almost always surprised by how much lint and dirt comes out of them.


    Nice! Seems a little pricey, but still.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Chris on Mon Apr 29 07:10:10 2024
    On 29.04.24 00:21, Chris wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 14:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 28.04.24 15:19, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 12:03, badgolferman wrote:
    The battery is down to 88% already, but the tech told me Apple
    doesn’t recommend changing the battery until it gets below 80%.

    The battery in my iPhone 14 Pro, purchased October 2022, is now down to >>> maximum capacity 86%, which severely limits the length of any charge. I >>> must say that I'm surprised at this after only 18 months. Oh well. And >>> I'm not a troll, my name isn't the mythical "Arlen", and my battery
    really is down to 86%.

    What is your question?
    You simply mistreated the battery of your phone. Quite simple. My iPhone
    14 is running 24/7 since I bought it in November 22. The battery
    performance level is still 100% according to the device.

    I call bullshit. No matter how well you treat a battery it *will* lose capacity over time. In nearly 18 months of regular use the battery will
    have lost at least a few percent.

    100% are 100% and nothing we could discuss about. I usually charge it to
    only 80% and recharge somewhere above 20%. The phone tells me when it
    has reached 80% and again when it has reached 90%. It does the same at
    20%. My iPhone has a German GUI it is called "Kurzbefehl" (Short Cuts?).
    Very easy to program.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Mon Apr 29 07:20:41 2024
    On 29.04.24 01:55, badgolferman wrote:
    You don’t understand. Lorenz is perfect in every single way and his shit don’t stink. He can’t be wrong…

    I'm really sorry for you. I hope you get the professional help you need.

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  • From Chris in Makati@21:1/5 to Chris on Mon Apr 29 08:53:39 2024
    On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 23:21:51 +0100, Chris <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 28/04/2024 14:52, J�rg Lorenz wrote:
    On 28.04.24 15:19, Wilf wrote:
    On 28/04/2024 at 12:03, badgolferman wrote:
    The battery is down to 88% already, but the tech told me Apple
    doesn�t recommend changing the battery until it gets below 80%.

    The battery in my iPhone 14 Pro, purchased October 2022, is now down to >>> maximum capacity 86%, which severely limits the length of any charge. I >>> must say that I'm surprised at this after only 18 months. Oh well. And >>> I'm not a troll, my name isn't the mythical "Arlen", and my battery
    really is down to 86%.

    What is your question?
    You simply mistreated the battery of your phone. Quite simple. My iPhone
    14 is running 24/7 since I bought it in November 22. The battery
    performance level is still 100% according to the device.

    I call bullshit. No matter how well you treat a battery it *will* lose >capacity over time. In nearly 18 months of regular use the battery will
    have lost at least a few percent.

    My 13, bought in Mar 23, is at 95% and I know I don't abuse my phones.

    My iPhone SE bought in August last year is also at 95%, which I think
    is reasonable.

    I don't believe I abuse the battery in any way, but the phone
    certainly gets used a lot during most of the working day. Maybe some
    would consider that to be abuse, with the only right way to treat a
    phone being to keep it untouched in a drawer. I'm sure mine would
    still be at 100% if I did that.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Apr 29 14:37:04 2024
    On 2024-04-29, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2024-04-28 21:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-04-29, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2024-04-28 00:11, Chris in Makati wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:00:13 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The charging port on my iPhone 14 has gone bad already. I’ve tried >>>>> several cords including Apple ones and they don’t work. I was forced >>>>> to go to Walmart last night at 10:30pm and get a wireless charger.

    Of course the warranty has ended and I don’t have Apple Care, but I >>>>> used Apple’s service app to find an authorized service center near >>>>> me and make an appointment for Monday, rather than the Genius Bar
    which is 30+ miles away.

    This is the second time this has happened to me. My iPhone 13 failed >>>>> for the same reason, which is why I upgraded to the iPhone 14. In
    the meantime I have a work issued iPhone 11 that uses the same exact >>>>> cord for charging and is still going strong all these years.

    My charging port has stopped working or worked intermittently a
    couple of times. Both times it turned out to be a buildup of dust
    inside the socket, probably due to me carrying the phone around in my
    pocket.

    Using a combination of a watchmakers screwdriver and a pair of
    pointed tweezers I was able to remove most of it and got it working
    again.

    The rubberized tooth cleaning picks...

    <https://assets.shop.loblaws.ca/products/20600194/b1/en/open/[email protected]>

    Work excellently.

    I've been using one of these for years to clean Lightning and USB-C
    charging ports, and it's been great at it:

    <https://www.pureport.net>

    I'm almost always surprised by how much lint and dirt comes out of them.

    Nice! Seems a little pricey, but still.

    I think you can find Chinese rip-offs cheaper on Amazon etc.

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