• Disable iMessage NOW! (Trust Wallet Warns iOS Users About New iMessage

    From Mickey D@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 18 16:32:23 2024
    The recommendation by Trust Wallet is to disable iMessage until Apple
    figures out how so many holes have been recently found in their platform.

    Trust Wallet has stated that dark web hackers are targeting iPhone and iOS users through zero-day exploits in Apple's default messaging app, iMessage.

    The Trust Wallet warning suggests that the exploitation corridor has
    existed on these Apple devices since the beginning of Apple's messaging
    system, which proves a huge hole is in Apple's testing infrastructure.

    Trust Wallet recommends completely disabling iMessage from Apple settings
    to mitigate the issue while waiting for code fixes. Currently, Apple has
    not addressed nor denied these claims as the problem is lack of testing for zero-day holes in Apple's messaging system.


    Be informed this is not Apple's first warning of holes in Apple's testing. Trust Wallet is the second crypto wallet app to recently warn users about issues related to Apple's lack of testing for security vulnerabilities.

    Previously, the Bitcoin wallet UniSat informed users about fake apps impersonating them on the App Store. And just last month, the crypto
    community became aware of the GoFetch attack vector on Apple's products.

    That apple vulnerability allows hackers to steal cryptographic keys due to
    an untested CPU cache bug in Apple's MacBook M1, M2, and M3 computer chips.

    The company has acknowledged the issue due to Apple's lack of testing, but details about a security patch have not yet emerged.

    As a precautionary measure, advice from industry players like the CEO of
    Errata Security, Robert Graham, suggests that users with significant crypto assets should transfer their assets away from Apple's untested iOS devices.

    Trust Wallet's warning to iOS users about the iMessage vulnerability underscores the critical importance of Apple's inherent historic lack of spending money to address security concerns in Apple's mobile platforms.

    The fact all these security holes exist shows Apple's pervasive
    advertisements to the contrary to be nothing more than brazen falsehoods.

    This new indication of high-risk attacks via Apple's iMessage highlights
    the evolving sophistication of cyber threats targeting cryptocurrency
    users, where Apple's lack of testing makes everyone using iOS vulnerable.

    The recommendation to disable iMessage temporarily as a mitigation strategy reflects the urgency of the situation while awaiting fixes from Apple.
    However, the lack of official response from Apple leaves users in a
    precarious position, emphasizing the need for timely action to safeguard sensitive assets.

    Trust Wallet's alert adds to a growing chorus of concerns regarding Apple's security infrastructure, with previous warnings from other crypto wallet
    apps and recent revelations about the GoFetch attack vector amplifying the urgency for robust security measures.

    As the crypto community grapples with these vulnerabilities, proactive
    steps, such as transferring significant crypto assets from iOS devices, are advised to mitigate potential risks. Ultimately, this episode underscores
    the ongoing importance of vigilance and collaboration among industry stakeholders to ensure the security of digital assets in an increasingly interconnected digital landscape.

    https://www.bulbapp.io/p/89113c83-fc9b-41ca-a62a-cfebca540f11/trust-wallet-warns-ios-users-about-imessage-vulnerability

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Mickey D on Fri Apr 19 10:35:55 2024
    On 2024-04-18 20:32:23 +0000, Mickey D said:

    The recommendation by Trust Wallet ...

    Stay *WELL* away from all scam "cryptocurrency" bollocks.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 19 07:20:53 2024
    Am 18.04.24 um 22:32 schrieb Mickey D:
    The recommendation by Trust Wallet is to disable iMessage until Apple
    figures out how so many holes have been recently found in their platform.

    Trust Wallet has stated that dark web hackers are targeting iPhone and iOS users through zero-day exploits in Apple's default messaging app, iMessage.

    Who the fuck is Trust Wallet? Why sould I listen to them instead of Apple?

    You are an idiot and Troll!

    --
    "Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Apr 19 07:03:54 2024
    Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:
    Am 18.04.24 um 22:32 schrieb Mickey D:
    The recommendation by Trust Wallet is to disable iMessage until Apple
    figures out how so many holes have been recently found in their platform.

    Trust Wallet has stated that dark web hackers are targeting iPhone and iOS >> users through zero-day exploits in Apple's default messaging app, iMessage.

    Who the fuck is Trust Wallet? Why sould I listen to them instead of Apple?

    You are an idiot and Troll!


    Jughead, are you sure he’s not Arlen?

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to Chris on Fri Apr 19 14:21:12 2024
    On 19.04.24 12:39, Chris wrote:
    On 18/04/2024 23:35, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-04-18 20:32:23 +0000, Mickey D said:

    The recommendation by Trust Wallet ...

    Stay *WELL* away from all scam "cryptocurrency" bollocks.

    Yeah, this isn't new news.

    It's just a rehash of the recent hardware flaw discovered in Apple
    M-series cpus. The biggest risk - although still tiny - from the flaw is cryptography, hence why the crypto community are concerned.

    Has nothing to do with iMsg as claimed by the OP.

    --
    "Alea icacta est." (Julius Caesar)

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 19 17:04:47 2024
    Am 19.04.24 um 16:26 schrieb Mickey D:
    On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 14:21:12 +0200, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

    The recommendation by Trust Wallet ...

    Stay *WELL* away from all scam "cryptocurrency" bollocks.

    Yeah, this isn't new news.

    It's just a rehash of the recent hardware flaw discovered in Apple
    M-series cpus. The biggest risk - although still tiny - from the flaw is >>> cryptography, hence why the crypto community are concerned.

    Has nothing to do with iMsg as claimed by the OP.

    You're confused by the huge number of Apple zero-day holes, only some of which are known to be found in Apple's M-series unpatchably flawed chips.

    M-series chips have nothing to do with iOS.

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  • From Mickey D@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Fri Apr 19 10:26:53 2024
    On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 14:21:12 +0200, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

    The recommendation by Trust Wallet ...

    Stay *WELL* away from all scam "cryptocurrency" bollocks.

    Yeah, this isn't new news.

    It's just a rehash of the recent hardware flaw discovered in Apple
    M-series cpus. The biggest risk - although still tiny - from the flaw is
    cryptography, hence why the crypto community are concerned.

    Has nothing to do with iMsg as claimed by the OP.

    You're confused by the huge number of Apple zero-day holes, only some of
    which are known to be found in Apple's M-series unpatchably flawed chips.

    However, it's not yet fully clear that this $2 million iOS zero-day is what
    the hackers claim it to be, according to the news that is all over the net. https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/04/18/exploit-seller-wants-2-million-for-a-zero-day-imessage-attack-vector-that-probably-doesnt-exist

    "It's important to note, as Tech Crunch highlights, that there is currently
    no definitive proof of the exploit's existence. The proof is derived from a dark web advertisement for something called "iMessage Exploit." https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/16/a-crypto-wallet-makers-warning-about-an-imessage-bug-sounds-like-a-false-alarm/

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  • From Mickey D@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 19 11:19:26 2024
    On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 17:04:47 +0200, J�rg Lorenz wrote:

    It's just a rehash of the recent hardware flaw discovered in Apple
    M-series cpus. The biggest risk - although still tiny - from the flaw is >>>> cryptography, hence why the crypto community are concerned.

    Has nothing to do with iMsg as claimed by the OP.

    You're confused by the huge number of Apple zero-day holes, only some of
    which are known to be found in Apple's M-series unpatchably flawed chips.

    M-series chips have nothing to do with iOS.

    Nobody said it did. You are confused by the huge number of zero day holes
    in Apple's products that you can't separate which of those many zero-day
    holes are in iMessage (which can be patched) and which of the holes are in Apple's millions of hopelessly flawed CPU chips (which can't be patched).

    Back to the subject matter at hand, the net has been flooded with the suggestion for iOS users to disable iMessages due to a "credible" warning. https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2024/04/17/disable-imessages-asap-high-risk-alert-issued-over-credible-iphone-exploit/

    For days, that has been the news but more recently the news has tempered
    that dire warning saying that the evidence is mostly in hackers' news. https://crypto.news/trust-wallet-warns-apple-ios-users-of-imessage-vulnerability/

    Non-hacker news has recently been reporting that it could be a false alarm. https://www.androidheadlines.com/2024/04/iphone-users-warned-about-imessage-exploit-but-it-could-be-fake.html

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 19 17:23:41 2024
    Am 19.04.24 um 17:19 schrieb Mickey D:
    On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 17:04:47 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

    It's just a rehash of the recent hardware flaw discovered in Apple
    M-series cpus. The biggest risk - although still tiny - from the flaw is >>>>> cryptography, hence why the crypto community are concerned.

    Has nothing to do with iMsg as claimed by the OP.

    You're confused by the huge number of Apple zero-day holes, only some of >>> which are known to be found in Apple's M-series unpatchably flawed chips. >>
    M-series chips have nothing to do with iOS.

    Nobody said it did.

    You did. You logical capabilites are very limited.

    EOD

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  • From Mickey D@21:1/5 to Chris on Fri Apr 19 12:29:49 2024
    On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 17:00:57 +0100, Chris wrote:

    Non-hacker news has recently been reporting that it could be a false alarm. >> https://www.androidheadlines.com/2024/04/iphone-users-warned-about-imessage-exploit-but-it-could-be-fake.html

    These are all reporting on the Trust Wallet story. That's not a flood,
    just an echo.

    While I disagree with the user who thinks this is all about the M1 flaws,
    I agree with you that initially, it was widely reported to be so bad that
    all iOS users were suggested to disable the app to prevent being hacked.

    You have to take these seriously because iMessage is frequently hacked. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/apple-zero-click-imessage-exploit-used-to-infect-iphones-with-spyware/

    These iMessages zero-day holes are so frequent, that you have to take them
    at face value, as almost every one that is reported turns out to be true. https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2023/06/02/warning-issued-for-iphone-users-as-ongoing-imessage-0-click-attack-revealed/

    Apple is never going to be the first to let you know about its holes, and,
    in fact, Apple doesn't tell you iOS iMessages holes are on the rise. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/apple-iphone-security-update-points-growing-problem-zero-days-rcna2012

    Apple has historically been the last entity to tell users anything about
    its many iMessages flaws, all of which are due to Apple's lack of testing. https://www.macworld.com/article/227626/imessage-security-flaw-faq.html

    In this case, the news for days was that iMessages was so seriously broken
    that users around the world were told to completely disable it in settings. https://cointelegraph.com/news/apple-ios-imessage-zero-day-crypto-exploit-warning-trust-wallet

    Then, slowly, the news started to report that, while the initial evidence
    of the $2 million dollar hack is correct - it may be a false alarm. https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/04/18/exploit-seller-wants-2-million-for-a-zero-day-imessage-attack-vector-that-probably-doesnt-exist

    All we can do now is wait to see whether the advertised $2M hack is real.
    Or not.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Mickey D on Fri Apr 19 17:44:12 2024
    On 2024-04-18, Mickey D <[email protected]> wrote:
    The recommendation by Trust Wallet is to disable iMessage

    Yes, everyone should definitely disable iMessage based on a questionable
    and unverified claim that totally isn't bogus:

    A crypto wallet maker’s warning about an iMessage bug sounds like a false alarm
    <https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/16/a-crypto-wallet-makers-warning-about-an-imessage-bug-sounds-like-a-false-alarm/>
    ---
    Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai11:51 AM PDT•April 16, 2024

    A crypto wallet maker claimed this week that hackers may be targeting
    people with an iMessage “zero-day” exploit — but all signs point to an exaggerated threat, if not a downright scam.

    Trust Wallet’s official X (previously Twitter) account wrote that “we
    have credible intel regarding a high-risk zero-day exploit targeting
    iMessage on the Dark Web. This can infiltrate your iPhone without
    clicking any link. High-value targets are likely. Each use raises
    detection risk.”

    The wallet maker recommended iPhone users to turn off iMessage
    completely “until Apple patches this,” even though no evidence shows
    that “this” exists at all.

    The tweet went viral, and has been viewed over 3.6 million times as of
    our publication. Because of the attention the post received, Trust
    Wallet, which is owned by crypto exchange Binance, hours later wrote a follow-up post. The wallet maker doubled down on its decision to go
    public
  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Mickey D on Sat Apr 20 09:59:13 2024
    On 2024-04-19 15:19:26 +0000, Mickey D said:
    On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 17:04:47 +0200, J�rg Lorenz wrote:

    It's just a rehash of the recent hardware flaw discovered in Apple
    M-series cpus. The biggest risk - although still tiny - from the flaw is >>>>> cryptography, hence why the crypto community are concerned.

    Has nothing to do with iMsg as claimed by the OP.

    You're confused by the huge number of Apple zero-day holes, only some of >>> which are known to be found in Apple's M-series unpatchably flawed chips. >>
    M-series chips have nothing to do with iOS.

    Nobody said it did. You are confused by the huge number of zero day holes
    in Apple's products that you can't separate which of those many zero-day holes are in iMessage (which can be patched) and which of the holes are in Apple's millions of hopelessly flawed CPU chips (which can't be patched).

    Many of which are the exact same flaws in most (if not all) other
    chips, especially ARM chips.

    Another idiot anti-Apple troll added to the kilfile.

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  • From Indira@21:1/5 to Your Name on Sat Apr 20 04:08:47 2024
    Your Name wrote:

    Many of which are the exact same flaws in most (if not all) other
    chips, especially ARM chips.

    What is it about this group that two people (at least) don't have a clue
    that there's a difference between iOS (software) and M1 (hardware) chips?

    If they don't know the difference between iOS (software) & M1 (hardware)
    then how can anything they ever say be trusted to be at all meaningful?

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Mickey D on Sat Apr 20 08:20:14 2024
    On 2024-04-18 16:32, Mickey D wrote:
    The recommendation by Trust Wallet is to disable iMessage until Apple

    Pearl Clutching Panic.

    --
    “Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first;
    nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”
    - Charles de Gaulle.

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  • From Tyrone@21:1/5 to Chris on Sat Apr 20 13:06:37 2024
    On Apr 20, 2024 at 4:30:34 AM EDT, "Chris" <[email protected]> wrote:

    I agree with you that initially, it was widely reported to be so bad that
    all iOS users were suggested to disable the app to prevent being hacked.

    M1 flaws have no impact on iOS. Remind me which M1 device uses ios?

    To be fair, iPads run iOS. iPadOS is the same underlying OS. And until iOS
    12 (or 13? Whatever) iPads ran iOS. There are M1 and M2 (and soon M3) iPads.


    In fact, all of Apple's OSes are the same underlying OS. Mac, iPhones, iPads, watches, VR goggles etc. all basically run the same OS. Different GUIs and such (and other things), but very similar behind the curtain.

    But even so, there is no way I am going "Disable iMessage NOW!" because some weirdo Bitcoin goofball says so.

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  • From Peter@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sat Apr 20 15:17:45 2024
    Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2024-04-18 16:32, Mickey D wrote:
    The recommendation by Trust Wallet is to disable iMessage until Apple

    Pearl Clutching Panic.

    Because Apple has never sufficiently tested their iOS software for holes,
    the most exploited bugs are in Webkit, the kernel, and in the messaging.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Peter on Sat Apr 20 21:21:19 2024
    On 2024-04-20, Peter <[email protected]> wrote:
    Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2024-04-18 16:32, Mickey D wrote:
    The recommendation by Trust Wallet is to disable iMessage until Apple

    Pearl Clutching Panic.

    Because Apple has never sufficiently tested their iOS software for holes,

    Poor, little Arlen - he's a broken record with no new trolling ideas.

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Peter Piper@21:1/5 to Your Name on Sun Apr 21 17:59:19 2024
    Your Name wrote:

    Another idiot anti-Apple troll added to the kilfile.

    This is not "another" one. This is the same Arlen. He has a
    characteristic posting style and wording.

    Adding him to your killfile will not stop you feeding him. He will just
    morph when he wants you to feed him again.


    Some of Arlen's recent nyms:

    - Andrew
    - Bill Powell
    - Bradley
    - david
    - Enrico Papaloma
    - Frankie
    - Gelato
    - Gunther F
    - Harry S Robins
    - Jan K.
    - Jerry
    - Mickey D
    - Oliver
    - Patrick
    - Peter
    - Ronald
    - Sten deJoode
    - Tamborino
    - Wolf Greenblatt

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  • From Cameo@21:1/5 to Peter Piper on Sun Apr 21 18:22:33 2024
    Peter Piper <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Your Name wrote:

    Another idiot anti-Apple troll added to the kilfile.

    This is not "another" one. This is the same Arlen. He has a
    characteristic posting style and wording.

    Adding him to your killfile will not stop you feeding him. He will just
    morph when he wants you to feed him again.


    Some of Arlen's recent nyms:

    - Andrew
    - Bill Powell
    - Bradley
    - david
    - Enrico Papaloma
    - Frankie
    - Gelato
    - Gunther F
    - Harry S Robins
    - Jan K.
    - Jerry
    - Mickey D
    - Oliver
    - Patrick
    - Peter
    - Ronald
    - Sten deJoode
    - Tamborino
    - Wolf Greenblatt





    At least he is inventive. 🤒

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 21 21:35:01 2024
    Am 21.04.24 um 20:22 schrieb Cameo:
    Peter Piper <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Your Name wrote:

    Another idiot anti-Apple troll added to the kilfile.

    This is not "another" one. This is the same Arlen. He has a
    characteristic posting style and wording.

    Adding him to your killfile will not stop you feeding him. He will just
    morph when he wants you to feed him again.


    Some of Arlen's recent nyms:

    - Andrew
    - Bill Powell
    - Bradley
    - david
    - Enrico Papaloma
    - Frankie
    - Gelato
    - Gunther F
    - Harry S Robins
    - Jan K.
    - Jerry
    - Mickey D
    - Oliver
    - Patrick
    - Peter
    - Ronald
    - Sten deJoode
    - Tamborino
    - Wolf Greenblatt





    At least he is inventive. 🤒

    But his life has no meaningful purpose.

    --
    "Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Mon Apr 22 00:46:54 2024
    On 21.04.2024 22:38, badgolferman wrote:
    Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:

    But his life has no meaningful purpose.



    IIRC, Arlen has stated his purpose is to speak the truth.

    Then the first thing would be not to lie about his own identity. He has
    no credibility at all.

    --
    "Ave Caesar! Morituri te salutant!"

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Apr 21 23:41:29 2024
    On 2024-04-21, Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 21.04.2024 22:38, badgolferman wrote:
    Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:

    But his life has no meaningful purpose.

    IIRC, Arlen has stated his purpose is to speak the truth.

    Then the first thing would be not to lie about his own identity. He
    has no credibility at all.

    And there's a reason badgolferman isn't condemning him here (or anywhere
    else). 😉

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Apr 21 23:08:46 2024
    Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2024-04-20, Peter <[email protected]> wrote:
    Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2024-04-18 16:32, Mickey D wrote:
    The recommendation by Trust Wallet is to disable iMessage until Apple

    Pearl Clutching Panic.

    Because Apple has never sufficiently tested their iOS software for holes,

    Poor, little Arlen - he's a broken record with no new trolling ideas.

    He does not need any “new trolling ideas” because the usual suspects continue to reply to his old trolling ideas.

    The problem is not that “Apple lives rent free in his head”. The problem is that HE lives rent free in YOUR head.

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Apr 24 02:00:33 2024
    Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2024-04-21, Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 21.04.2024 22:38, badgolferman wrote:
    Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:

    But his life has no meaningful purpose.

    IIRC, Arlen has stated his purpose is to speak the truth.

    Then the first thing would be not to lie about his own identity. He
    has no credibility at all.

    And there's a reason badgolferman isn't condemning him here (or anywhere else). 😉

    Careful as you might trigger yet another inane comment by Hank Rogers.

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  • From Mickey D@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 24 10:52:50 2024
    On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 02:00:33 +0000, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    The latest news shows Apple won't confirm or deny the bug,
    but nobody else yet has been able to confirm the bug, so for now, at least until Apple says something (which they haven't), the warning is just that
    and nothing more. There's no action to be taken other than to not trust
    Trust Wallet, perhaps, given their own vulnerabilities in the past as
    discussed here. https://www.ccn.com/news/crypto/trust-wallet-imessenger-alert-security-failings-ios-app-vulnerabilities/

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Mickey D on Sun Apr 28 18:56:57 2024
    On 2024-04-24 07:52, Mickey D wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 02:00:33 +0000, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    The latest news shows Apple won't confirm or deny the bug,
    but nobody else yet has been able to confirm the bug, so for now, at least until Apple says something (which they haven't), the warning is just that
    and nothing more. There's no action to be taken other than to not trust
    Trust Wallet, perhaps, given their own vulnerabilities in the past as discussed here. https://www.ccn.com/news/crypto/trust-wallet-imessenger-alert-security-failings-ios-app-vulnerabilities/

    Weird.

    Did you you start this thread with:

    "Disable iMessage NOW!"

    :-)

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  • From Tyrone@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Apr 29 03:15:44 2024
    On Apr 28, 2024 at 9:56:57 PM EDT, "Alan" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2024-04-24 07:52, Mickey D wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 02:00:33 +0000, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    The latest news shows Apple won't confirm or deny the bug,
    but nobody else yet has been able to confirm the bug, so for now, at least >> until Apple says something (which they haven't), the warning is just that
    and nothing more. There's no action to be taken other than to not trust
    Trust Wallet, perhaps, given their own vulnerabilities in the past as
    discussed here.
    https://www.ccn.com/news/crypto/trust-wallet-imessenger-alert-security-failings-ios-app-vulnerabilities/

    Weird.

    Did you you start this thread with:

    "Disable iMessage NOW!"

    :-)

    As I said above, "There is no way I am going "Disable iMessage NOW!" because some
    weirdo Bitcoin goofball says so."

    Because the whole "Bitcoin" thing is SO reliable and trustworthy.

    Once again, proving just how low the trolls will go. They will jump on ANY "Apple Bad News" in their desperate, non-stop mission to "score points".

    Pathetic. When WILL these kiddies grow up?

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