• Odd charging problem

    From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 16 15:25:23 2024
    I have an iphone SE (2020). It has worked OK for several years.

    Recently, I was given an ipad 9th generation. It was new, never
    used, won by a relative who put it in the closet. It came with
    a 20 watt charger.

    My iphone won't charge if I plug it into the charger that came
    with the ipad.

    It would be nice if I could use the 20W charger for both my
    apple devices.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Fri Feb 16 17:39:44 2024
    On 2024-02-16 16:25, Hank Rogers wrote:
    I have an iphone SE (2020). It has worked OK for several years.

    Recently, I was given an ipad 9th generation. It was new, never used,
    won by a relative who put it in the closet. It came with a 20 watt charger.

    My iphone won't charge if I plug it into the charger that came with the
    ipad.

    It would be nice if I could use the 20W charger for both my apple devices.

    Should work.

    I assume the charger + cable work with the iPad?

    Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again. To get
    into the iPhone lightning port, take some stiff paper, fold doubled, cut
    to size, a dot of alcohol. In and out a few times. Let dry.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Fri Feb 16 17:38:06 2024
    Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2024-02-16 16:25, Hank Rogers wrote:
    I have an iphone SE (2020). It has worked OK for several years.

    Recently, I was given an ipad 9th generation. It was new,
    never used, won by a relative who put it in the closet. It
    came with a 20 watt charger.

    My iphone won't charge if I plug it into the charger that
    came with the ipad.

    It would be nice if I could use the 20W charger for both my
    apple devices.

    Should work.


    That's what I thought.

    I assume the charger + cable work with the iPad?


    Yes. it's all brand new, as I said. The iphone was bought in
    2021. It charges just fine on the low power apple charger that
    it came with, just not on the new ipad's charger.

    Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.
    To get into the iPhone lightning port, take some stiff paper,
    fold doubled, cut to size, a dot of alcohol.� In and out a few
    times.� Let dry.


    Thanks, I'll clean it and try again, but the port appears
    pristine when examined with a 10x loupe. Thanks for your help.

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  • From Jimmy@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Fri Feb 16 18:36:05 2024
    On 16/02/2024 17:39, Alan Browne wrote:
    Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.

    While nospam would tell you charging is not needed & nobody wants it...

    And while there's nothing wrong with cleaning the contacts, my experience
    with plenty of old Android phones and iPads is not so much that the
    batteries go bad but that the iPad is hugely temperature dependent.

    Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to charge.
    Yet, if you heat it up to a decent room temperature (72 degrees), then all
    of a sudden, what showed 0% charged capacity instantly shows 99% or
    similar.

    Hence, my advice, based on anecdotal evidence with more than a few older
    iPads, is make sure the iPad is warmed up to room temperature - if it's
    not.

    If the old iPad was already warm - then this advice based on experience
    does not apply to your situation, and I apologize for wasting your time.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Jimmy on Fri Feb 16 18:44:15 2024
    On 2024-02-16 18:36, Jimmy wrote:
    On 16/02/2024 17:39, Alan Browne wrote:
    Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.

    While nospam would tell you charging is not needed & nobody wants it...
    And while there's nothing wrong with cleaning the contacts, my experience with plenty of old Android phones and iPads is not so much that the
    batteries go bad but that the iPad is hugely temperature dependent.

    Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to charge.
    Yet, if you heat it up to a decent room temperature (72 degrees), then all
    of a sudden, what showed 0% charged capacity instantly shows 99% or
    similar.

    Hence, my advice, based on anecdotal evidence with more than a few older iPads, is make sure the iPad is warmed up to room temperature - if it's
    not.

    If the old iPad was already warm - then this advice based on experience
    does not apply to your situation, and I apologize for wasting your time.

    Re-read his post. Like the part about it being his iPhone that won't
    charge with the iPad's charger, for example.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Fri Feb 16 18:02:12 2024
    Hank Rogers wrote:
    Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2024-02-16 16:25, Hank Rogers wrote:
    I have an iphone SE (2020). It has worked OK for several years.

    Recently, I was given an ipad 9th generation. It was new,
    never used, won by a relative who put it in the closet. It
    came with a 20 watt charger.

    My iphone won't charge if I plug it into the charger that
    came with the ipad.

    It would be nice if I could use the 20W charger for both my
    apple devices.

    Should work.


    That's what I thought.

    I assume the charger + cable work with the iPad?


    Yes. it's all brand new, as I said. The iphone was bought in
    2021. It charges just fine on the low power apple charger that
    it came with, just not on the new ipad's charger.

    Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.
    To get into the iPhone lightning port, take some stiff paper,
    fold doubled, cut to size, a dot of alcohol.� In and out a
    few times.� Let dry.


    Thanks, I'll clean it and try again, but the port appears
    pristine when examined with a 10x loupe. Thanks for your help.


    One thing I need to clarify ... the iphone SE 2020 didn't come
    with a charger, but the charger I've been using is a genuine
    apple small charger my wife gave me. She buys lots of apple
    stuff and had this one from some iphone she bought, before
    apple cheeped out and quit supplying a charger with new phones.
    It works fine, and has been 100% reliable forn several years.
    It even charges this new ipad, but slower naturally.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Jimmy on Fri Feb 16 18:04:50 2024
    Jimmy wrote:
    On 16/02/2024 17:39, Alan Browne wrote:
    Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.

    While nospam would tell you charging is not needed & nobody
    wants it...
    And while there's nothing wrong with cleaning the contacts, my
    experience
    with plenty of old Android phones and iPads is not so much that
    the
    batteries go bad but that the iPad is hugely temperature
    dependent.

    Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to
    charge.
    Yet, if you heat it up to a decent room temperature (72
    degrees), then all
    of a sudden, what showed 0% charged capacity instantly shows
    99% or
    similar.

    Hence, my advice, based on anecdotal evidence with more than a
    few older
    iPads, is make sure the iPad is warmed up to room temperature -
    if it's
    not.

    If the old iPad was already warm - then this advice based on
    experience
    does not apply to your situation, and I apologize for wasting
    your time.

    No problem jimmy. Everyone knows nospam was full of shit.

    I think you misunderstood, but I appreciate your help.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Your Name on Fri Feb 16 18:23:35 2024
    Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-02-16 23:36:05 +0000, Jimmy said:

    Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to
    charge.

    If the battery is "full" on pretty much any device it will
    "refuse" to charge ... since you cannot charge higher then
    "full". In fact most modern devices "refuse" to charge when
    full (or in some newer cases a certain high percentage) so they
    don't damage the battery, battery circuitry, or the charger.� :-)


    Thanks. That is obvious.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Jimmy on Sat Feb 17 13:16:34 2024
    On 2024-02-16 23:36:05 +0000, Jimmy said:

    Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to charge.

    If the battery is "full" on pretty much any device it will "refuse" to
    charge ... since you cannot charge higher then "full". In fact most
    modern devices "refuse" to charge when full (or in some newer cases a
    certain high percentage) so they don't damage the battery, battery
    circuitry, or the charger. :-)

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat Feb 17 03:48:02 2024
    Hank Rogers <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Jimmy wrote:
    On 16/02/2024 17:39, Alan Browne wrote:
    Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.

    While nospam would tell you charging is not needed & nobody
    wants it...
    And while there's nothing wrong with cleaning the contacts, my
    experience
    with plenty of old Android phones and iPads is not so much that
    the
    batteries go bad but that the iPad is hugely temperature
    dependent.

    Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to
    charge.
    Yet, if you heat it up to a decent room temperature (72
    degrees), then all
    of a sudden, what showed 0% charged capacity instantly shows
    99% or
    similar.

    Hence, my advice, based on anecdotal evidence with more than a
    few older
    iPads, is make sure the iPad is warmed up to room temperature -
    if it's
    not.

    If the old iPad was already warm - then this advice based on
    experience
    does not apply to your situation, and I apologize for wasting
    your time.

    No problem jimmy. Everyone knows nospam was full of shit.

    Everyone? You seem ironically full of shit.

    I think you misunderstood, but I appreciate your help.

    Are you also Arlen? There is a lot of Arlen on this group. The stench is overwhelming. [email protected]d seals it IMO. Hi Arlen.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 16 21:55:59 2024
    *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    Hank Rogers <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Jimmy wrote:
    On 16/02/2024 17:39, Alan Browne wrote:
    Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.

    While nospam would tell you charging is not needed & nobody
    wants it...
    And while there's nothing wrong with cleaning the contacts, my
    experience
    with plenty of old Android phones and iPads is not so much that
    the
    batteries go bad but that the iPad is hugely temperature
    dependent.

    Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to
    charge.
    Yet, if you heat it up to a decent room temperature (72
    degrees), then all
    of a sudden, what showed 0% charged capacity instantly shows
    99% or
    similar.

    Hence, my advice, based on anecdotal evidence with more than a
    few older
    iPads, is make sure the iPad is warmed up to room temperature -
    if it's
    not.

    If the old iPad was already warm - then this advice based on
    experience
    does not apply to your situation, and I apologize for wasting
    your time.

    No problem jimmy. Everyone knows nospam was full of shit.

    Everyone? You seem ironically full of shit.

    I think you misunderstood, but I appreciate your help.

    Are you also Arlen? There is a lot of Arlen on this group. The stench is overwhelming. [email protected]d seals it IMO. Hi Arlen.


    Try some preparation H.

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat Feb 17 04:07:54 2024
    Hank Rogers <[email protected]d> wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    Hank Rogers <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Jimmy wrote:
    On 16/02/2024 17:39, Alan Browne wrote:
    Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.

    While nospam would tell you charging is not needed & nobody
    wants it...
    And while there's nothing wrong with cleaning the contacts, my
    experience
    with plenty of old Android phones and iPads is not so much that
    the
    batteries go bad but that the iPad is hugely temperature
    dependent.

    Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to
    charge.
    Yet, if you heat it up to a decent room temperature (72
    degrees), then all
    of a sudden, what showed 0% charged capacity instantly shows
    99% or
    similar.

    Hence, my advice, based on anecdotal evidence with more than a
    few older
    iPads, is make sure the iPad is warmed up to room temperature -
    if it's
    not.

    If the old iPad was already warm - then this advice based on
    experience
    does not apply to your situation, and I apologize for wasting
    your time.

    No problem jimmy. Everyone knows nospam was full of shit.

    Everyone? You seem ironically full of shit.

    I think you misunderstood, but I appreciate your help.

    Are you also Arlen? There is a lot of Arlen on this group. The stench is
    overwhelming. [email protected]d seals it IMO. Hi Arlen.


    Try some preparation H.

    Preparation Hank?

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 16 22:43:52 2024
    *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    Hank Rogers <[email protected]d> wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    Hank Rogers <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Jimmy wrote:
    On 16/02/2024 17:39, Alan Browne wrote:
    Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.

    While nospam would tell you charging is not needed & nobody
    wants it...
    And while there's nothing wrong with cleaning the contacts, my
    experience
    with plenty of old Android phones and iPads is not so much that
    the
    batteries go bad but that the iPad is hugely temperature
    dependent.

    Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to
    charge.
    Yet, if you heat it up to a decent room temperature (72
    degrees), then all
    of a sudden, what showed 0% charged capacity instantly shows
    99% or
    similar.

    Hence, my advice, based on anecdotal evidence with more than a
    few older
    iPads, is make sure the iPad is warmed up to room temperature -
    if it's
    not.

    If the old iPad was already warm - then this advice based on
    experience
    does not apply to your situation, and I apologize for wasting
    your time.

    No problem jimmy. Everyone knows nospam was full of shit.

    Everyone? You seem ironically full of shit.

    I think you misunderstood, but I appreciate your help.

    Are you also Arlen? There is a lot of Arlen on this group. The stench is >>> overwhelming. [email protected]d seals it IMO. Hi Arlen.


    Try some preparation H.

    Preparation Hank?


    Maybe it will help your sore butt.

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  • From Jimmy@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat Feb 17 13:32:53 2024
    On 16/02/2024 17:04, Hank Rogers wrote:
    I think you misunderstood, but I appreciate your help.

    I apologize. My goof. I looked back and you were asking about the iPhone
    and not the iPad charging. You were trying to charge the iPhone, not iPad.

    At least I got the part right that anything Apple that doesn't work the way
    you want it to work is, in the words of nospam, forever indelibly always
    "not needed" & "not wanted."

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Jimmy on Sat Feb 17 18:47:28 2024
    Jimmy <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 16/02/2024 17:04, Hank Rogers wrote:
    I think you misunderstood, but I appreciate your help.

    I apologize. My goof. I looked back and you were asking about the iPhone
    and not the iPad charging. You were trying to charge the iPhone, not iPad.

    At least I got the part right that anything Apple that doesn't work the way you want it to work is, in the words of nospam, forever indelibly always
    "not needed" & "not wanted."


    Nospam was truly the most dedicated apple apologist I’ve ever run across.

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