On Dec 14, 2023 at 8:36:01 AM EST, "badgolferman" <[email protected]> wrote:

I keep my iPhone in my front pocket with the front facing toward the leg
and the charging port edge up. Over time the speaker holes fill up with
lint and crud which is hard to get out. I use compressed air and even a
pick but still can’t get it all out. How do you manage this?

You need to occasionally pull your pockets inside out to get the lint and crud out. Problem avoided.

Also do you use a case or keep your phone “naked”? What is your reason for
that choice?

Always in a soft, wrap around, totally enclosed case. Because a $1,200
anything - that has a glass screen and is carried everywhere - is worth protecting with a $15 case.

This has the added benefit that when the time comes to sell it on eBay, it is in pristine condition. I still have an 8 Plus that does not have a single scratch or dent. Ditto my current 12 Pro Max. You should see the junk people are trying to sell that has obviously never been in a case.

My iPads are in cases for the same reasons. It is absolute lunacy to not use a case for these expensive, fragile things.

All the cases that I buy also open in such a way that they become a stand for watching videos in landscape orientation.

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On 2023-12-14, badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:

I keep my iPhone in my front pocket with the front facing toward the leg
and the charging port edge up. Over time the speaker holes fill up with
lint and crud which is hard to get out. I use compressed air and even a
pick but still can’t get it all out. How do you manage this?

I've used this tool for ages for this, and it's very effective:

<https://www.pureport.net>

I avoid vacuuming water-resistant electronics because a strong enough
suction could dislodge internal seals.

Also do you use a case or keep your phone “naked”? What is your reason for
that choice?

I use an extremely minimal clear case like this one:

<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09CPR2BBF>

I don't use screen or camera protectors since I have never broken a
single iPhone screen since my first iPhone 3GS in 2009. The case is just
for piece of mind when setting my iPhone down on rough surfaces like a slate-topped coffee table.

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Am 14.12.23 um 14:36 schrieb badgolferman:

I keep my iPhone in my front pocket with the front facing toward the leg
and the charging port edge up. Over time the speaker holes fill up with
lint and crud which is hard to get out. I use compressed air and even a
pick but still can’t get it all out. How do you manage this?

Also do you use a case or keep your phone “naked”? What is your reason for
that choice?

You should under no circumstances carry such a strong source of
radiation in your pockets.

It will start with you getting bald on the side you carry the phone and
the end will be that your balls will be like boiled eggs and you
becoming completely impotent and ultimately fading away.

*LOL*

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Am 14.12.23 um 19:04 schrieb badgolferman:

Jörg Lorenz wrote:

Am 14.12.23 um 14:36 schrieb badgolferman:

I keep my iPhone in my front pocket with the front facing toward
the leg and the charging port edge up. Over time the speaker holes
fill up with lint and crud which is hard to get out. I use
compressed air and even a pick but still can’t get it all out. How
do you manage this?

Also do you use a case or keep your phone “naked”? What is your
reason for that choice?

You should under no circumstances carry such a strong source of
radiation in your pockets.

It will start with you getting bald on the side you carry the phone
and the end will be that your balls will be like boiled eggs and you
becoming completely impotent and ultimately fading away.

LOL

And how do you carry your phone?

Shirt pocket. The 14 is a bit big for that.

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Am 14.12.23 um 19:39 schrieb badgolferman:

Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:

Am 14.12.23 um 19:04 schrieb badgolferman:

And how do you carry your phone?

Shirt pocket. The 14 is a bit big for that.

So you tell me not to carry the phone in my pants pocket yet you carry
yours in a shirt pocket where it’s closer to your heart (if you have one). Does every single shirt you own have pockets?

The heart has absolutely no sensitivity to radiation or not more than a
hand or a foot.

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On 2023-12-14, badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:

Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:

Am 14.12.23 um 19:04 schrieb badgolferman:

Jörg Lorenz wrote:

Am 14.12.23 um 14:36 schrieb badgolferman:

I keep my iPhone in my front pocket with the front facing toward
the leg and the charging port edge up. Over time the speaker holes
fill up with lint and crud which is hard to get out. I use
compressed air and even a pick but still can’t get it all out. How >>>>> do you manage this?

Also do you use a case or keep your phone “naked”? What is your
reason for that choice?

You should under no circumstances carry such a strong source of
radiation in your pockets.

It will start with you getting bald on the side you carry the phone
and the end will be that your balls will be like boiled eggs and
you becoming completely impotent and ultimately fading away.

LOL

And how do you carry your phone?

Shirt pocket. The 14 is a bit big for that.

So you tell me not to carry the phone in my pants pocket

Did you miss the "LOL" part?

There is no credible peer reviewed scientific evidence that the radio
waves or infrared light emitted by consumer devices are dangerous.

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J�rg Lorenz wrote:

Am 14.12.23 um 19:39 schrieb badgolferman:

Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:

Am 14.12.23 um 19:04 schrieb badgolferman:

And how do you carry your phone?

Shirt pocket. The 14 is a bit big for that.

So you tell me not to carry the phone in my pants pocket yet
you carry
yours in a shirt pocket where it’s closer to your heart (if
you have one).
Does every single shirt you own have pockets?

The heart has absolutely no sensitivity to radiation or not
more than a hand or a foot.

So, you are mainly worried about his balls, right JugHead?

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On 2023-12-14 12:59, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2023-12-14, badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:

Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:

Am 14.12.23 um 19:04 schrieb badgolferman:

Jörg Lorenz wrote:

Am 14.12.23 um 14:36 schrieb badgolferman:

I keep my iPhone in my front pocket with the front facing toward
the leg and the charging port edge up. Over time the speaker holes >>>>>> fill up with lint and crud which is hard to get out. I use
compressed air and even a pick but still can’t get it all out. How >>>>>> do you manage this?

Also do you use a case or keep your phone “naked”? What is your >>>>>> reason for that choice?

You should under no circumstances carry such a strong source of
radiation in your pockets.

It will start with you getting bald on the side you carry the phone
and the end will be that your balls will be like boiled eggs and
you becoming completely impotent and ultimately fading away.

LOL

And how do you carry your phone?

Shirt pocket. The 14 is a bit big for that.

So you tell me not to carry the phone in my pants pocket

Did you miss the "LOL" part?

There is no credible peer reviewed scientific evidence that the radio
waves or infrared light emitted by consumer devices are dangerous.

cf "non-ionizing".

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Tyrone <[email protected]> wrote:

On Dec 14, 2023 at 10:36:32 AM EST, "badgolferman" <[email protected]> wrote:

Tyrone <[email protected]> wrote:

On Dec 14, 2023 at 8:36:01 AM EST, "badgolferman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

I keep my iPhone in my front pocket with the front facing toward the leg >>>> and the charging port edge up. Over time the speaker holes fill up with >>>> lint and crud which is hard to get out. I use compressed air and even a >>>> pick but still can’t get it all out. How do you manage this?

You need to occasionally pull your pockets inside out to get the lint and crud
out. Problem avoided.

It’s not that simple. The lint isn’t large particles that you can merely >> empty from your pockets by turning it inside out. This is tiny specks which >> get into the speaker screen holes and clog them up. Look at your own phone >> and see how small those holes and the screen are. Where do you keep your
phone, in your hand at all times?

All I know is my phones have always been clean, and my pockets are not dirty.

YMMV.

I get lint build up on the areas at the bottom exposed through the
Otterbox case. I never thought about it much until badgolferman brought it
up. Would an electronics friendly vacuum work to suck it out without
causing unforeseen structural damage? I don’t know how evitable it is given
I keep my phone in my front pocket when I’m out of the house. I guess
enduser blame is always the quickest shortcut to problem solving.

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On Dec 14, 2023 at 10:36:32 AM EST, "badgolferman" <[email protected]> wrote:

Tyrone <[email protected]> wrote:

On Dec 14, 2023 at 8:36:01 AM EST, "badgolferman"
<[email protected]> wrote:

I keep my iPhone in my front pocket with the front facing toward the leg >>> and the charging port edge up. Over time the speaker holes fill up with
lint and crud which is hard to get out. I use compressed air and even a
pick but still can’t get it all out. How do you manage this?

You need to occasionally pull your pockets inside out to get the lint and crud
out. Problem avoided.

It’s not that simple. The lint isn’t large particles that you can merely empty from your pockets by turning it inside out. This is tiny specks which get into the speaker screen holes and clog them up. Look at your own phone and see how small those holes and the screen are. Where do you keep your phone, in your hand at all times?

All I know is my phones have always been clean, and my pockets are not dirty.

YMMV.

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On 12/14/23 8:36 AM, badgolferman wrote:

I keep my iPhone in my front pocket with the front facing toward the leg
and the charging port edge up. Over time the speaker holes fill up with
lint and crud which is hard to get out. I use compressed air and even a
pick but still can’t get it all out. How do you manage this?

Also do you use a case or keep your phone “naked”? What is your reason for
that choice?

I keep my iPhone in a belt holster on the left side and my handgun in a
holster on the right.

You can get a good phone holster for a low price because they aren't
seen as "cool" anymore-- so demand is low. Handgun holsters, on the
other hand, are extremely cool; thus demand and prices are high.

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Am 15.12.23 um 01:14 schrieb Captain Ayub:

On 12/14/23 8:36 AM, badgolferman wrote:

I keep my iPhone in my front pocket with the front facing toward the leg
and the charging port edge up. Over time the speaker holes fill up with
lint and crud which is hard to get out. I use compressed air and even a
pick but still can’t get it all out. How do you manage this?

Also do you use a case or keep your phone “naked”? What is your reason for
that choice?

I keep my iPhone in a belt holster on the left side and my handgun in a holster on the right.

You can get a good phone holster for a low price because they aren't
seen as "cool" anymore-- so demand is low. Handgun holsters, on the
other hand, are extremely cool; thus demand and prices are high.

Nobody cares and you are one of the extremists in Israel?

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Am 14.12.23 um 21:59 schrieb Jolly Roger:

On 2023-12-14, badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:

So you tell me not to carry the phone in my pants pocket

Did you miss the "LOL" part?

There is no credible peer reviewed scientific evidence that the radio
waves or infrared light emitted by consumer devices are dangerous.

Guess why France requested not long ago that Apple stops selling the
iPhone 12 exactly for this reason?


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On 2023-12-15, Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:

Am 14.12.23 um 21:59 schrieb Jolly Roger:

On 2023-12-14, badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:

So you tell me not to carry the phone in my pants pocket

Did you miss the "LOL" part?

There is no credible peer reviewed scientific evidence that the radio
waves or infrared light emitted by consumer devices are dangerous.

Guess why France requested not long ago that Apple stops selling the
iPhone 12 exactly for this reason?

You're a gullible rube.

That whole thing is due to the French regulators applying the same SAR absorption standard as the rest of the EU - but at a *closer* distance. Apparently, even though radiation follows the inverse square law, the
French government thinks people absorb more radiation ...because they
are in France? 🤪

The relevant standard for EU-wide regulations is EN 50566:2013, which
allows manufacturers to choose the separation with up to 25mm (most
vendors standardized on 15mm because this is the maximum separation
allowed under the FCC standard). The French disagree with this standard because: "reasons", and specify the limits at a *much closer* 0mm and 5mm separation, which *obviously* increases absorption. However, they did
*not* increase the absorption limits accordingly, again because:
"reasons".

Moving the emitter closer *naturally* results in a stronger signal, and
the SAR threshold should be *adjusted* accordingly - which the french
*didn't* do, because they're obviously low-key catering to the “mObIlE
pHoNeS cAuSe CaNcEr!1!!” wackos for political play. 😉

What this really means is that most mobile phones are suddenly out of compliance with the new French regulations. ANFR themselves say "a large proportion of phones" are out of compliance. Since the EU is more of an advisory body and allows individual countries to set such limits
individually, the EU has issued an application restriction which
prohibits their usage in France (presumably until manufacturers patch transmission power limits downwards as Apple is now doing).

A whole lot of French people are about to start complaining about weak
cellular connectivity. Wonder who they will blame for that... Something
tells me they won't blame their idiotic government. 🤣

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J�rg Lorenz wrote:

Am 15.12.23 um 01:14 schrieb Captain Ayub:

On 12/14/23 8:36 AM, badgolferman wrote:

I keep my iPhone in my front pocket with the front facing
toward the leg
and the charging port edge up. Over time the speaker holes
fill up with
lint and crud which is hard to get out. I use compressed air
and even a
pick but still can’t get it all out. How do you manage this?

Also do you use a case or keep your phone “naked”? What
is your reason for
that choice?

I keep my iPhone in a belt holster on the left side and my
handgun in a
holster on the right.

You can get a good phone holster for a low price because they
aren't
seen as "cool" anymore-- so demand is low. Handgun holsters,
on the
other hand, are extremely cool; thus demand and prices are high.

Nobody cares and you are one of the extremists in Israel?

Are they worse than extremists in germany, JugHead?

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Hank Rogers <[email protected]d> wrote:

Jörg Lorenz wrote:

Am 15.12.23 um 01:14 schrieb Captain Ayub:

On 12/14/23 8:36 AM, badgolferman wrote:

I keep my iPhone in my front pocket with the front facing
toward the leg
and the charging port edge up. Over time the speaker holes
fill up with
lint and crud which is hard to get out. I use compressed air
and even a
pick but still can’t get it all out. How do you manage this?

Also do you use a case or keep your phone “naked”? What
is your reason for
that choice?

I keep my iPhone in a belt holster on the left side and my
handgun in a
holster on the right.

You can get a good phone holster for a low price because they
aren't
seen as "cool" anymore-- so demand is low. Handgun holsters,
on the
other hand, are extremely cool; thus demand and prices are high.

Nobody cares and you are one of the extremists in Israel?

Are they worse than extremists in germany, JugHead?

What is your deal? Are you obsessed with Jörg?

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*Hemidactylus* wrote:

Hank Rogers <[email protected]d> wrote:

Jörg Lorenz wrote:

Am 15.12.23 um 01:14 schrieb Captain Ayub:

On 12/14/23 8:36 AM, badgolferman wrote:

I keep my iPhone in my front pocket with the front facing
toward the leg
and the charging port edge up. Over time the speaker holes
fill up with
lint and crud which is hard to get out. I use compressed air
and even a
pick but still can’t get it all out. How do you manage this?

Also do you use a case or keep your phone “naked”? What
is your reason for
that choice?

I keep my iPhone in a belt holster on the left side and my
handgun in a
holster on the right.

You can get a good phone holster for a low price because they
aren't
seen as "cool" anymore-- so demand is low. Handgun holsters,
on the
other hand, are extremely cool; thus demand and prices are high.

Nobody cares and you are one of the extremists in Israel?

Are they worse than extremists in germany, JugHead?

What is your deal? Are you obsessed with Jörg?

It's your deal. shuffle and deal.

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On 2023-12-15 18:05, *Hemidactylus* wrote:

Hank Rogers <[email protected]d> wrote:

Are they worse than extremists in germany, JugHead?

What is your deal? Are you obsessed with Jörg?

Looks like Jörg has free rent in Hank's head.

--
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- John Maynard Keynes.

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Alan Browne wrote:

On 2023-12-15 18:05, *Hemidactylus* wrote:

Hank Rogers <[email protected]d> wrote:

Are they worse than extremists in germany, JugHead?

What is your deal? Are you obsessed with Jörg?

Looks like Jörg has free rent in Hank's head.

He certainly does.

I could never throw Jughead out. He's the only one that could
ever replace nospam, and protect us against arlen the evil.

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