• Saint Steve Jobs

    From badgolferman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 11:48:07 2023
    In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,
    daughter of Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Jobs, delved into the complex relationship she had with her father while discussing her memoir, where
    she details the emotional landscape of her interactions with him. This intricate dynamic was punctuated by Steve Jobs’ initial denial of
    paternity, a denial that forced a state-mandated DNA test and his
    subsequent reluctance to provide for Lisa.

    One of the emotionally charged recollections shared by Lisa was her
    questioning her worth in her father’s eyes — “Was I an ugly baby?” This question arose from a painful interaction where Steve Jobs seemed
    disinterested in her baby albums, an anecdote that sheds light on the
    emotional distance that often characterized their relationship.

    The state-enforced DNA test to establish paternity did little to change
    Steve Jobs’ stance, who, in 1982, made a startling statement to a Time magazine journalist when he said that "28% of the male population of
    the United States could be the father."

    Lisa also highlighted instances of her father’s refusal to provide for
    her, even as she matured. At age nine, when Lisa asked about inheriting
    her father's Porsche, Jobs said, "You're not getting anything. You
    understand? Nothing. You're getting nothing." This financial
    indifference persisted into her teenage years, marked by Jobs'
    reluctance to mend the heating in her room or fix the dishwasher when
    she lived with him. The disregard extended to her education when Jobs
    hesitated to cover her college fees at Harvard, relenting only after
    wealthy neighbors intervened, although he reimbursed them much later.

    Jobs set rigid rules for Lisa to be acknowledged as part of his family, including following a strict curfew, limiting interactions with her
    mother and yielding to his absolute authority. A poignant scene in a
    restaurant further showcased the tense father-daughter relationship,
    with Jobs harshly criticizing Lisa’s teenage cousin, Sarah, for
    ordering a burger, saying, "Have you ever thought about how awful your
    voice is? Please stop talking in that awful voice."

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/steve-jobs-denied-daughter-years-154603931.html

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Oct 31 08:48:12 2023
    On 10/31/2023 6:48 AM, badgolferman wrote:
    In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,
    daughter of Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Jobs, delved into the complex relationship she had with her father while discussing her memoir,

    ---snip attack on dead man---

    Thanks. Now I'll know why I have phone issues.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 16:50:52 2023
    Am 31.10.23 um 14:48 schrieb sticks:
    On 10/31/2023 6:48 AM, badgolferman wrote:
    In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,
    daughter of Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Jobs, delved into the complex
    relationship she had with her father while discussing her memoir,

    ---snip attack on dead man---

    Thanks. Now I'll know why I have phone issues.

    The OP is a grumpy, bored old man.
    And every day a new issue. Not to be taken serious at all!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Oct 31 08:41:28 2023
    On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
    In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,

    What is the point of this post?

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 16:49:08 2023
    Am 31.10.23 um 12:48 schrieb badgolferman:
    In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,
    daughter of Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Jobs, delved into the complex relationship she had with her father while discussing her memoir, where

    Insanely OT in this group, bored man.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Oct 31 17:38:02 2023
    On 31.10.23 17:36, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
    In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,

    What is the point of this post?

    Apple related information.

    Nope. Father/daughter issues. Not more and not less.

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Oct 31 16:52:59 2023
    Alan wrote:

    On 2023-10-31 09:36, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
    In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa
    Brennan-Jobs,

    What is the point of this post?

    Apple related information.

    No... ...it's really not.


    In a biography of obs by Walter Isaacson, published just days after his
    death in 2011, Jobs acknowledged his absence in his children's lives,
    saying, “I wanted my kids to know me.” He said, “I wasn’t always there for them, and I wanted them to know why and to understand what I did.”

    ----------------

    It shows how devoted Jobs was to his craft. That should make his
    admirers proud!

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    "Some folks are wise and some are otherwise." ~ Tobias George Smolett

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Oct 31 16:36:17 2023
    Alan wrote:

    On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
    In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,

    What is the point of this post?

    Apple related information.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Oct 31 09:46:39 2023
    On 2023-10-31 09:36, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
    In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,

    What is the point of this post?

    Apple related information.

    No... ...it's really not.

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Oct 31 12:44:01 2023
    On 10/31/2023 11:52 AM, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2023-10-31 09:36, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
    In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa
    Brennan-Jobs,

    What is the point of this post?

    Apple related information.

    No... ...it's really not.


    In a biography of obs by Walter Isaacson, published just days after his
    death in 2011, Jobs acknowledged his absence in his children's lives,
    saying, “I wanted my kids to know me.” He said, “I wasn’t always there
    for them, and I wanted them to know why and to understand what I did.”

    ----------------

    This post, though still completely off-topic, is a completely different
    line of attack from the original link of yours, only similar in that he
    was a bad dad. I had hoped you would come to your senses and see this
    for what it is: a pointless post about a dead man that does nothing to contribute to this group.

    It shows how devoted Jobs was to his craft. That should make his
    admirers proud!

    Alas, you've doubled down with this silliness. I shall have to rethink
    my position on reading things from you in the future.

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to sticks on Tue Oct 31 19:18:11 2023
    sticks wrote:

    Alas, you've doubled down with this silliness. I shall have to
    rethink my position on reading things from you in the future.


    As you wish. Personally I don't read every single message to this
    newsgroup either.

    My goal is to provide relevant news articles about Apple and iPhone. I
    saw this one and thought since it talked about the inventor of the
    iPhone some people here would be interested.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Oct 31 14:02:16 2023
    On 2023-10-31 09:52, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2023-10-31 09:36, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
    In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa
    Brennan-Jobs,

    What is the point of this post?

    Apple related information.

    No... ...it's really not.


    In a biography of obs by Walter Isaacson, published just days after his
    death in 2011, Jobs acknowledged his absence in his children's lives,
    saying, “I wanted my kids to know me.” He said, “I wasn’t always there
    for them, and I wanted them to know why and to understand what I did.”

    ----------------

    It shows how devoted Jobs was to his craft. That should make his
    admirers proud!


    You posting it shows how much of an ass you CHOOSE TO BE.

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Oct 31 21:48:24 2023
    Alan wrote:

    On 2023-10-31 12:18, badgolferman wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    Alas, you've doubled down with this silliness. I shall have to
    rethink my position on reading things from you in the future.


    As you wish. Personally I don't read every single message to this >>newsgroup either.

    My goal is to provide relevant news articles about Apple and
    iPhone. I saw this one and thought since it talked about the
    inventor of the iPhone some people here would be interested.


    And yet you chose to pointlessly slam a dead man.


    Nope, your disdain should be directed toward the writer of the article
    -- Jeannine Mancini.

    All I did was inform the group of the article.

    --
    "What's right is what's left if you do everything wrong." ~ Robin
    Williams

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Oct 31 23:37:23 2023
    badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
    In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,

    What is the point of this post?

    Apple related information.


    Then post it on an Apple ng. This isn't it.

    Jobs died quite a while ago now.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Oct 31 17:52:18 2023
    On 2023-10-31 14:48, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2023-10-31 12:18, badgolferman wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    Alas, you've doubled down with this silliness. I shall have to
    rethink my position on reading things from you in the future.


    As you wish. Personally I don't read every single message to this
    newsgroup either.

    My goal is to provide relevant news articles about Apple and
    iPhone. I saw this one and thought since it talked about the
    inventor of the iPhone some people here would be interested.


    And yet you chose to pointlessly slam a dead man.


    Nope, your disdain should be directed toward the writer of the article
    -- Jeannine Mancini.

    All I did was inform the group of the article.

    Right.

    You CHOSE to post it.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Wed Nov 1 04:04:51 2023
    On 2023-10-31, badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2023-10-31 12:18, badgolferman wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    Alas, you've doubled down with this silliness. I shall have to
    rethink my position on reading things from you in the future.

    As you wish. Personally I don't read every single message to this >>>newsgroup either.

    My goal is to provide relevant news articles about Apple and
    iPhone. I saw this one and thought since it talked about the
    inventor of the iPhone some people here would be interested.

    And yet you chose to pointlessly slam a dead man.

    Nope, your disdain should be directed toward the writer of the article
    -- Jeannine Mancini.

    All I did was inform the group of the article.

    "Intersting." (read in Elon's right wingnut retweets)


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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Nov 1 04:03:05 2023
    On 2023-10-31, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
    In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,

    What is the point of this post?

    To disparage a dead guy.

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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