Planning System for Retail Stores to Update iPhone Software With No Need to Open Box https://www.macrumors.com/2023/10/16/retail-stores-to-update-iphones-with-new-system/
Apple is planning to implement an innovative new system that allows retail store staff to wirelessly update iPhones inside their sealed boxes,
according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman.
In the most recent "Power On" newsletter, Gurman outlined how Apple plans
to tackle brand new iPhones being sold in retail stores with outdated software. For example, the iPhone 15 lineup shipped with iOS 17, but iOS 17.0.1 was already available upon its launch and the devices required a update to iOS 17.0.2 to fix an issue that prevented the transfer of data directly from another iPhone during the setup process.
Apple wants customers to receive iPhones with the latest version of iOS to avoid users having to update themselves, especially if important updates
have been pushed to address high-profile bugs. Before the end of the next year, Apple will apparently provide a new system to retail stores to
address this. It features a "proprietary pad-like device" that retail store staff can place a sealed iPhone box on top of. The system then wirelessly turns on the iPhone, updates its software to the latest version, and powers it off, with no need to open the device's packaging.
On 10/16/2023 3:22 PM, Wally J wrote:
Planning System for Retail Stores to Update iPhone Software With No
Need to
Open Box
https://www.macrumors.com/2023/10/16/retail-stores-to-update-iphones-with-new-system/
Apple is planning to implement an innovative new system that allows
retail
store staff to wirelessly update iPhones inside their sealed boxes,
according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman.
In the most recent "Power On" newsletter, Gurman outlined how Apple plans
to tackle brand new iPhones being sold in retail stores with outdated
software. For example, the iPhone 15 lineup shipped with iOS 17, but iOS
17.0.1 was already available upon its launch and the devices required a
update to iOS 17.0.2 to fix an issue that prevented the transfer of data
directly from another iPhone during the setup process.
Apple wants customers to receive iPhones with the latest version of
iOS to
avoid users having to update themselves, especially if important updates
have been pushed to address high-profile bugs. Before the end of the next
year, Apple will apparently provide a new system to retail stores to
address this. It features a "proprietary pad-like device" that retail
store
staff can place a sealed iPhone box on top of. The system then wirelessly
turns on the iPhone, updates its software to the latest version, and
powers
it off, with no need to open the device's packaging.
If so, a technique sure to be hacked and used for ill purposes.
Planning System for Retail Stores to Update iPhone Software With No Need to Open Box https://www.macrumors.com/2023/10/16/retail-stores-to-update-iphones-with-new-system/
Apple is planning to implement an innovative new system that allows retail store staff to wirelessly update iPhones inside their sealed boxes,
according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman.
In the most recent "Power On" newsletter, Gurman outlined how Apple plans
to tackle brand new iPhones being sold in retail stores with outdated software. For example, the iPhone 15 lineup shipped with iOS 17, but iOS 17.0.1 was already available upon its launch and the devices required a update to iOS 17.0.2 to fix an issue that prevented the transfer of data directly from another iPhone during the setup process.
Apple wants customers to receive iPhones with the latest version of iOS to avoid users having to update themselves, especially if important updates
have been pushed to address high-profile bugs. Before the end of the next year, Apple will apparently provide a new system to retail stores to
address this. It features a "proprietary pad-like device" that retail store staff can place a sealed iPhone box on top of. The system then wirelessly turns on the iPhone, updates its software to the latest version, and powers it off, with no need to open the device's packaging.
On 10/16/2023 3:22 PM, Wally J wrote:
Planning System for Retail Stores to Update iPhone Software With No Need to >> Open Box
https://www.macrumors.com/2023/10/16/retail-stores-to-update-iphones-with-new-system/
Apple is planning to implement an innovative new system that allows retail >> store staff to wirelessly update iPhones inside their sealed boxes,
according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman.
In the most recent "Power On" newsletter, Gurman outlined how Apple plans
to tackle brand new iPhones being sold in retail stores with outdated
software. For example, the iPhone 15 lineup shipped with iOS 17, but iOS
17.0.1 was already available upon its launch and the devices required a
update to iOS 17.0.2 to fix an issue that prevented the transfer of data
directly from another iPhone during the setup process.
Apple wants customers to receive iPhones with the latest version of iOS to >> avoid users having to update themselves, especially if important updates
have been pushed to address high-profile bugs. Before the end of the next
year, Apple will apparently provide a new system to retail stores to
address this. It features a "proprietary pad-like device" that retail store >> staff can place a sealed iPhone box on top of. The system then wirelessly
turns on the iPhone, updates its software to the latest version, and powers >> it off, with no need to open the device's packaging.
If so, a technique sure to be hacked and used for ill purposes.
That's good. I hope that is all it does.
On 10/16/2023 2:26 PM, Ant wrote:
That's good. I hope that is all it does.
Good idea. Not possible with Android because Android devices don't automatically power on when placed on a charger.
On 10/16/2023 2:26 PM, Ant wrote:
That's good. I hope that is all it does.
Good idea. Not possible with Android because Android devices don't automatically power on when placed on a charger.
On 2023-10-16 19:47:36 +0000, News said:
If so, a technique sure to be hacked and used for ill purposes.
It also means the phones will have to be swicthed on or in sleep mode to
be able to update, so that means and they will need continual wireless recharging as well and the battery will wear down even more than it does
when the phone is off.
So instead of buying a phone with outdated-but-easily-updated version of
iOS (and presumably the tech would ripple through to iPads, MacBooks and somehow desktop macs), you'll be buying a phone with a worn out battery instead ... well, Apple does make more money out of replacing the
battery than it does for the free OS updates, so it makes financial
sense for them. :-\
sms <[email protected]> wrote:
On 10/16/2023 2:26 PM, Ant wrote:
That's good. I hope that is all it does.
Good idea. Not possible with Android because Android devices don't
automatically power on when placed on a charger.
Android companies will copy this idea. :P
On 2023-10-16 17:43, Your Name wrote:
On 2023-10-16 19:47:36 +0000, News said:
If so, a technique sure to be hacked and used for ill purposes.
You would have to know at least 2 and probably many more "secrets"
(AES-256) even if the technique were open source for the world to see.
It also means the phones will have to be swicthed on or in sleep mode to
be able to update, so that means and they will need continual wireless recharging as well and the battery will wear down even more than it does when the phone is off.
I suspect the activation is via the UW receiver which is also a very low power device.
Once it gets the "we have some work for you" message it can go into the higher power mode of onboarding the update and performing the update.
Then back to a very low power mode to wait for the new owner to buy the
unit.
So instead of buying a phone with outdated-but-easily-updated version of iOS (and presumably the tech would ripple through to iPads, MacBooks and somehow desktop macs), you'll be buying a phone with a worn out battery instead ... well, Apple does make more money out of replacing the
battery than it does for the free OS updates, so it makes financial
sense for them.� :-\
Most iPhones never see a 2nd battery by the first owner. Most can go 5
years w/o changing it. My iPhone 11 is nearly 4 years old, 90% battery capacity.
86% in my client's since 9/23/2019. My 12 mini's tiny battery is at 83% from 8/12/2021. :(
On 2023-10-16 19:47:36 +0000, News said:
On 10/16/2023 3:22 PM, Wally J wrote:
Planning System for Retail Stores to Update iPhone Software With No
Need to
Open Box
https://www.macrumors.com/2023/10/16/retail-stores-to-update-iphones-with-new-system/
Apple is planning to implement an innovative new system that allows
retail
store staff to wirelessly update iPhones inside their sealed boxes,
according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman.
In the most recent "Power On" newsletter, Gurman outlined how Apple
plans
to tackle brand new iPhones being sold in retail stores with outdated
software. For example, the iPhone 15 lineup shipped with iOS 17, but iOS >>> 17.0.1 was already available upon its launch and the devices required a
update to iOS 17.0.2 to fix an issue that prevented the transfer of data >>> directly from another iPhone during the setup process.
Apple wants customers to receive iPhones with the latest version of
iOS to
avoid users having to update themselves, especially if important updates >>> have been pushed to address high-profile bugs. Before the end of the
next
year, Apple will apparently provide a new system to retail stores to
address this. It features a "proprietary pad-like device" that retail
store
staff can place a sealed iPhone box on top of. The system then
wirelessly
turns on the iPhone, updates its software to the latest version, and
powers
it off, with no need to open the device's packaging.
If so, a technique sure to be hacked and used for ill purposes.
It also means the phones will have to be swicthed on or in sleep mode to
be able to update, so that means and they will need continual wireless recharging as well and the battery will wear down even more than it does
when the phone is off.
So instead of buying a phone with outdated-but-easily-updated version of
iOS (and presumably the tech would ripple through to iPads, MacBooks and somehow desktop macs), you'll be buying a phone with a worn out battery instead ... well, Apple does make more money out of replacing the
battery than it does for the free OS updates, so it makes financial
sense for them. :-\
On 2023-10-16 17:43, Your Name wrote:
On 2023-10-16 19:47:36 +0000, News said:
If so, a technique sure to be hacked and used for ill purposes.
You would have to know at least 2 and probably many more "secrets"
(AES-256) even if the technique were open source for the world to see.
It also means the phones will have to be swicthed on or in sleep mode to
be able to update, so that means and they will need continual wireless
recharging as well and the battery will wear down even more than it does
when the phone is off.
I suspect the activation is via the UW receiver which is also a very low power device.
Once it gets the "we have some work for you" message it can go into the higher power mode of onboarding the update and performing the update.
Then back to a very low power mode to wait for the new owner to buy the
unit.
So instead of buying a phone with outdated-but-easily-updated version of
iOS (and presumably the tech would ripple through to iPads, MacBooks and
somehow desktop macs), you'll be buying a phone with a worn out battery
instead ... well, Apple does make more money out of replacing the
battery than it does for the free OS updates, so it makes financial
sense for them. :-\
Most iPhones never see a 2nd battery by the first owner. Most can go 5
years w/o changing it. My iPhone 11 is nearly 4 years old, 90% battery capacity.
The idea that recent vintage iPhones can go five years on the initial
battery has no factual basis.
It would have to be very lightly used to achieve that.
I was going to trade in the 11 on a 15 Pro but now I think I'll wait for
the 16 Pro. They're likely to improve the thermal solution on the 16 Pro given all that has transpired with the 15 Pro.
sms <[email protected]> wrote
The idea that recent vintage iPhones can go five years on the initial
battery has no factual basis.
I wonder if iPhone owners even realize how crappy iPhone batteries are (compared to huge modern Android batteries which can jumpstart your car).
It would have to be very lightly used to achieve that.
The iPhone batteries are far too puny to last five years constant use.
I was going to trade in the 11 on a 15 Pro but now I think I'll wait for
the 16 Pro. They're likely to improve the thermal solution on the 16 Pro
given all that has transpired with the 15 Pro.
Apple forgot to test the iPhone 15 just like they forgot to test the
iPhones that needed to be secretly throttled only a year after purchase.
What's in the iPhone 15 anyway that isn't already in previous models?
Titanium?
What's in the iPhone 15 anyway that isn't already in previous models?
badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote
What's in the iPhone 15 anyway that isn't already in previous models?
Titanium?
Good repartee!
(I guffawed out loud when I saw that response.)
The fact Apple had to make a big deal out of nothing, in order to differentiate the iPhone 15, pretty much speaks for itself, doesn't it.
Like many goods, smartphones are a mature commodity.
They're all the same. There's nothing new. Every iPhone is the same.
(Rkprcg sbe gubfr LRYYBJ vCubarf - gurl'er qvssrerag!)
Even Apple, to its credit, realized that by NOT raising the price of the iPhone 15, they're no different than the iPhone 113, and iPhone 14 were.
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